Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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Hahaha the Glazers finally get a competent manager and will not back him. It will be nice to see us play Mata on the right, no wait.
 
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I guess that if we pay that and say… 70m for de Jong, that’s our alleged 120m budget done.
Really it's somewhere between 100 and 150m. If FdJ, Antony and Dumfries are real targets, they would total to probably 140m, so I'm sure we'd be able to do that. Those 3 and possibly Eriksen would be a great window IMO.
 
Find me another player for that money with his qualities. Ajax usually are pretty fair with their prices.

Yeah, I could see him going for 40m. He's not quite at the level of de Ligt or de Jong when they were sold to Juve and Barca, but he does have 3 years left on his deal.
 
Again, makes more sense to get Raphinha for around the same price

There’s no way Leeds will let Raphinha go for £50 million mate and especially to us, seen reports of Leeds turning down bids of £65 million plus and Barca looking at Di Maria instead as there’s no way they can afford him.

Its look like we don't have money to buy new toys.

I don’t believe for a second ETH wouldn’t have agreed a transfer budget before agreeing to take over and with how much of a shambles we are I don’t believe for a second he’d have agreed to take over if it wasn’t substantial, we’re 5 days into the window but also not allowing the piss taken out of ourselves financially it seems.

It looks like ETH wants De Jong and Antony for definite as he knows both players very well and they know his system very well so there’s trust on all sides there, both players are absolute priority positions and arguably have been our two most neglected positions for over a decade which other clubs know so they’ll chance their luck with us until we negotiate an agreement.
 
Going into the season with Elanga as the starter for the RW spot (with one of Pellistri/Amad as his only real competition?!) would be an absolute disaster. It'd be the equivalent of sticking McTominay at DM and hoping for the best, or not bothering to replace Pogba as we've got Fred and Garner who can play CM. Getting a RW is absolutely a priority.
This! Signing this guy and a rwb could almost be as transformative as sorting the midfield out.
 
Going into the season with Elanga as the starter for the RW spot (with one of Pellistri/Amad as his only real competition?!) would be an absolute disaster. It'd be the equivalent of sticking McTominay at DM and hoping for the best, or not bothering to replace Pogba as we've got Fred and Garner who can play CM. Getting a RW is absolutely a priority.
Or we play Sancho on the right. If Rashford is staying and heck maybe Martial we have 4 players that prefer LW including Elanga. Buying a RW just means binning Rashford because he is no way a RW. Im not saying we should continue with Rashford but we will and since we are we have to give him the platform to succeed otherwise what's the point. The only way I can see it working in any shape or form is that Sancho needs to go back to the RW
 
He has great potential but I feel it a risk because he might not be able to make immediate impact. EPL is probably too hard to him at this moment.
 
No way we get raphinha for 50m, and his stats aren’t much better, whilst being older. Reports suggesting they are turning down 65-70m.

Raphinha would also have to learn a new system

Any suggestion of sancho wants us to flat out ignore that last four years.
 
What is a ‘proper club’? One owned by a Sheikh?
Liverpool aren't owned by a Sheikh, nor Real Madrid. They've both got brilliant teams and have already added players.

We have the worst bunch of players that we've had in a long time and are apparently not close to signing anyone right now. With pre season looming, I not only worry about who we sign, but how soon we sign them too.
 
Liverpool aren't owned by a Sheikh, nor Real Madrid. They've both got brilliant teams and have already added players.

We have the worst bunch of players that we've had in a long time and are apparently not close to signing anyone right now. With pre season looming, I not only worry about who we sign, but how soon we sign them too.

I don’t think you read what I wrote.

To say a ‘proper club’ fixes every problem at once is a silly thing to say, given that players have price tags. If you have 6 problems in your first XI and you aim for quality players, your ability to fix everything in one window doesn’t determine whether you are a ‘proper club’ or not. It is purely fiscal.
 
I don’t think you read what I wrote.

To say a ‘proper club’ fixes every problem at once is a silly thing to say, given that players have price tags. If you have 6 problems in your first XI and you aim for quality players, your ability to fix everything in one window doesn’t determine whether you are a ‘proper club’ or not. It is purely fiscal.
You're right and I realised you were right on second reading but wanted to vent anyway :(
 
You're right and I realised you were right on second reading but wanted to vent anyway :(
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your right to vent is justified and therefore granted!
It has been frustrating the whole past season. Now it’s just the continuation from it.
 
I don’t think you read what I wrote.

To say a ‘proper club’ fixes every problem at once is a silly thing to say, given that players have price tags. If you have 6 problems in your first XI and you aim for quality players, your ability to fix everything in one window doesn’t determine whether you are a ‘proper club’ or not. It is purely fiscal.
And to add to your post, Liverpool in Klopp's first full season in charge with Michael Edwards promoted in a DoF role, made their first signing on the 28th of June 2016, which was the signing of Sadio Mane. They ended the window with 6 players listed below. Klopp started in his role in October 2015 and Liverpool finished the 2015/16 season in 8th place.

If we have a window like the below, people would be in a even bigger meltdown than the one they're having now. And Liverpool hadn't won the league for over 25 years at the time, and many on this forum looked down on the signing of Sadio Mane.

Sadio Mane - £30m
Joel Matip - free
Loris Karius - £4.7m
Ragnar Klavan - £4.2m
Alex Manninger - free
Gerginio Wijnaldum - £25m
 
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We are done.

Im already writing off next season.

Feck sake give the club a chance the window's only been open a few days. We've only just hired a new manager, and the CEO is still relatively new.

Rebuilding United's squad will be a long term process, the time for short termism is over.
 
And to add to your post, Liverpool in Klopp's first full season in charge with Michael Edwards promoted in a DoF role, made their first signing on the 28th of June 2016, which was the signing of Sadio Mane. They ended the window with 6 players listed below. Klopp started in his role in October 2015 and Liverpool finished the 2015/16 season in 8th place.

If we have a window like the below, people would be in a even bigger meltdown than the one they're having now. And Liverpool hadn't won the league for over 25 years at the time, and many on this forum looked down on the signing of Sadio Mane.

Sadio Mane - £30m
Joel Matip - free
Loris Karius - £4.7m
Ragnar Klavan - £4.2m
Alex Manninger - free
Gerginio Wijnaldum - £25m
I take back my earlier comment but in relation to Klopps first season, had he lost so many players in the way we have? Pogba, Matic, Mata, Lingard, Greenwood, Cavani is a significant loss of personnel from the start of last season.

I'm firmly in the camp that they should have gone but it makes our need to add new recruits even more important.

I do understand your point and I think it offers some perspective but there are some important differences too.
 
I take back my earlier comment but in relation to Klopps first season, had he lost so many players in the way we have? Pogba, Matic, Mata, Lingard, Greenwood, Cavani is a significant loss of personnel from the start of last season.

I'm firmly in the camp that they should have gone but it makes our need to add new recruits even more important.

I do understand your point and I think it offers some perspective but there are some important differences too.
Liverpool moved on plenty of first team players in the summer of 2016, its why they signed 6 players. Below is the list of players that departed Liverpool in the window in question after they had finished 8th in the league.

Jose EnriqueFree TransferFree1 July 2016
Kolo TouréFree TransferFree1 July 2016
Jordan RossiterFree TransferFree1 July 2016
João Carlos TeixeiraFree TransferFree1 July 2016
Jerome SinclairFree TransferFree1 July 2016
Samed YesilFree TransferFree1 July 2016
Sergi CanosNorwich City£4,500,00013 July 2016
Martin SkrtelFenerbahce£5,500,00014 July 2016
Jordon IbeBournemouth£15,000,00014 July 2016
Joe AllenStoke City£13,000,00025 July 2016
Brad SmithBournemouth£6,000,00027 July 2016
Christian BentekeCrystal Palace£32,000,00020 August 2016
Luis AlbertoLazio£6,000,00031 August 2016
Mario Balotelli
 
I'd be all for Antony. Worst case, he gets people off their seats and makes us enjoyable to watch again. Best case, he continues to improve and becomes an elite player.
 
There’s no way Leeds will let Raphinha go for £50 million mate and especially to us, seen reports of Leeds turning down bids of £65 million plus and Barca looking at Di Maria instead as there’s no way they can afford him.

No way we get raphinha for 50m, and his stats aren’t much better, whilst being older. Reports suggesting they are turning down 65-70m.

Raphinha would also have to learn a new system

Any suggestion of sancho wants us to flat out ignore that last four years.
Where have you seen Leeds turning down 65m. This has been the only report of a price tag

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I'd be all for Antony. Worst case, he gets people off their seats and makes us enjoyable to watch again. Best case, he continues to improve and becomes an elite player.

Yeah. This. I just want to be entertained for now.
 
He has great potential but I feel it a risk because he might not be able to make immediate impact. EPL is probably too hard to him at this moment.
Perfect time to buy. He has a free pass season in the EL with no expectation to bed in. We have Sancho, Elanga, Pellistri, Amad and even Rashford to cover wide right. Get Anthony in if ETH wants him and Let him take his time!
 
I take back my earlier comment but in relation to Klopps first season, had he lost so many players in the way we have? Pogba, Matic, Mata, Lingard, Greenwood, Cavani is a significant loss of personnel from the start of last season.

I'm firmly in the camp that they should have gone but it makes our need to add new recruits even more important.

I do understand your point and I think it offers some perspective but there are some important differences too.

Is it significant? Four of these players have been irregular squad players. Pogba has been largely injured and Greenwood while promising wasn't a solid performer(some people may say the same thing about Pogba).
 
Glazer should review the financial and authorize ETH to spend up to 200 mil so we can start bringing in players. If financing a players is dependent of selling a few, we might as well forward about it and stay mid table. This show the ambition of the owners. 200 mil, we will get Timber, Antony, FDJ, Pau Torres and 1 backup striker. The squad will be ready to start the season with a bang.
A bit too many Ajax players. Are they the only thing that exists?
Again, makes more sense to get Raphinha for around the same price
agreed
This! Signing this guy and a rwb could almost be as transformative as sorting the midfield out.
why? Is he THAT good and surely he is a big risk?
Should go and get Raphinha to feck off Barca
Agreed.
 
Where have you seen Leeds turning down 65m. This has been the only report of a price tag


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Easy to search Google mate but only a couple of weeks ago (might have been a few weeks) I saw lots of reports of Leeds turning down £65 million bids and Raphinha reportedly saying that Barca is his dream move but Barca can’t even afford to register players that came on a free let along spend big.
 
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