It doesn’t matter what system we use.
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It doesn’t matter what system we use.
It was a return game for him, but he does look finished at this level. Will probably be afforded a few more chances, would have to assume Young or Dalot will be preferred now though.
He's been a good servant, albeit very one-dimensional of late. Time to move on though for sure. I hope Dalot is the future.
He’s been like this for around 4 years now and it’s crazy to think he used to be a semi decent winger at least for 2/3 seasons.
Great servant for the club, without a doubt. He's spent nearly 10 years here, which is an awesome return, really, for any player. Be that as it may -- he is done at this level. His legs are gone and he offers absolutely nothing going forward or defensively. I'd be absolutely fecking shocked if we offered him even a year extension before the summer.
Staying back is overrated. How many chances Atsu had in the first half? His position was woeful when it come to oppo's counter attack. Herrera had to babysit him the whole match.
InThe last 3 matches we were more solid on the back. We didn't concede today but it had something to do with luck and shit finishing
InThe last 3 matches we were more solid on the back. We didn't concede today but it had something to do with luck and shit finishing
He was literally the best right back in the world a couple of years ago
According to Jose which was absolute rubbish, he wasn’t even the best RB in the league or even our club.
Nobody said we didn't concede because he stayed back.
Legs have completely gone. He's finished.
Looked really like a player past his best before.. Sad to see really.
Same it's a sad indictment of the criminally poor the squad management over the last 5 years by Moyes, Mourinho and especially Van Gaal has been that we have no decent options on the right wing or at right back. None bar Daot whos still an unknown quantity.
Valencia has been a great servant, he's due a testimonial this summer give him that but wish him well and move him on. He doesn't fit into an attacking system he just won't provide width or take on a defender. It's soul destroying watching him play knowing how good of a winger he was years ago.
Great servant to the club, but he's finished at the top level.
What??? You cant be serious
Why is he a great 'servant' exactly? how many teams have wanted him and he has rejected them to stay?
What was wrong with him today ? I know he's playing after awhile but it's as if he refused to enter their half. Maybe he just doesn't have the running power anymore and felt he needed to conserve.
You only have to click the thread marks and go back to read the comments from post Wolves game or Valencia (both legs) and see what the fans have said.
There's a reason fans were worried when Ole reaffirmed his captain status and said he's good going forward in the press conference. Hopefully tonight he realized Valencia is done just like we did a long time ago.
There's a reason fans were worried when Ole reaffirmed his captain status and said he's good going forward in the press conference. Hopefully tonight he realized Valencia is done just like we did a long time ago.
Apart from looking like he shouldn't be playing football, he seemed to either completely ignore tactical instructions or not fancy his fitness enough for it. He didn't make a single run foward. Not a single one. When we were playing our triangles on the left and midfield, you could see that Pogba/Matic/Herrara would take a glance down the right wing to see where Dalot/Young would usually be and instead they saw no one.
I find it hard to believe that Ole & co would have asked Valencia to make 0 forward runs. I don't think he thought he had it in the tank to make those runs and get back in case of a counter attack. If that was the case, why the feck was he playing a game in the premier league???
I find it hard to believe that Ole & co would have asked Valencia to make 0 forward runs. I don't think he thought he had it in the tank to make those runs and get back in case of a counter attack. If that was the case, why the feck was he playing a game in the premier league???
good thing his contract ends in june.
bye bye tony v and thanks for your good first 2/3 seasons, average few years later and definitely poor for some time now.
bye bye tony v and thanks for your good first 2/3 seasons, average few years later and definitely poor for some time now.
I stand by this opinion. He was, again, tragic last night.
He sacked his agent shortly after arriving at United if I recall. Said he didn't need to move anywhere else because this is the club he wants to be at.
I'll always have good feelings about Valencia because of this. It's a shame how his performances have been regressing.
Darmian should be ahead of him.
Lack of ability to make an attacking contribution being replaced by a lack of desire. Didnt even bother making runs, forget about doing something useful after that.
Hopeless.
Hopeless.
And yet still pointed half-heartedly for a pass to be made in front of him everytime he stood still in front of Dummett
Pathetic token gesture. Pathetic.Not to attack him personally or belittle his past contributions to this team but we need to get rid. Unfortunately he's just not good enough any longer to fit in this system. If we faced better attacking sides they would've eaten us alive today using that side of the pitch.
He was terrible last night. Then again, when I saw the line-up, he was the one I took issue with.
another Mourinho favourite that should be bench player only now.
Negative, sideways, backwards rubbish is what you get.
Negative, sideways, backwards rubbish is what you get.
No I saw it. You must have missed where Valencia was the worst player on the pitch. When a player is consistently bad, as Valencia has been for several seasons now, his return from an extended period of time out of the time is bound to he scrutinized.
Erm, we haven't? Our attack has been blunt for a while. Stop working in extremes in an attempt to validate your point. Valencia's complete lack of thrust and attacking potency has been an issue for some time. That doesn't mean we have been unable to score. It's not a coincidence we look invariably more dangerous down the right when he isn't playing.
Both he and Herrera down that side were passing extremely sideways. I thought Herrera had improved on this a bit in his last few games but maybe you can blame Valencia for Herrera's passivity too? As a result, that entire right side was dead all game. Everything came from the left or left of central midfield.
Its telling that Mourinho's favourites either dont have a place in a functioning side (Fellaini, Valencia) or hav to change thier game by 180 degrees (Matic)
Its telling that Mourinho's favourites either dont have a place in a functioning side (Fellaini, Valencia) or hav to change thier game by 180 degrees (Matic)
Valencia was phased out by Mourinho this season, with Shaw and Young being the preferred fullbacks, even Dalot was preferred to him. I'd hardly claim he was a favorite of his, at least not this season. Secondly, players like Rashford were also his favourites and he's been arguably our best player since Ole came in. It had nothing to do with Mourinho's favourites, it had to do with his inability to coach said players to get the best out of them. Or in the least, allow them to express themselves.
Carvajal ?
That was in the 16/17 season when Valencia was still good. You'd struggle to find a better rightback.
Very poor tonight. He shouldn’t start ever again, never mind wear the arm band! Hope the management can see this
He was poor - very poor in fact, but he's also been out for a long while. I think we should let him regain some fitness before we completely write him off.
I was a bit disappointed with Valencia in this match. I really like him, but in this game he was not as good as Young has been. No big errors, but I wanted him to attack a bit more, see some crossers.
That's how time works mate, it's linear, you get older and players decline. He's finished.
Looked totally shot last night. Can't see him turning it around. I have felt for some time that Valencia should move on. Last night reinforced that. I hope he can find himself again but I am not optimistic about it happening.
He's been poor going forward for ages now, that should be no surprise to anyone. Him and Mata can not play the right flank together. He did usually offer us some sort of defensive solidity though, but that wasn't apparent at all last night. In that first half especially, it felt like we had a gaping hole on that side. Dalot should get far more chances going forward.
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