Even if he was playing in his correct position he should only be playing for a team like Everton, ridiculous that we have had to endure his inept RB performances all year and haven't given Rafael any chances at all (when fit).
25
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 35
- Clean sheets
- 12
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
- 4
I love him. Has way better technique than is given credit for. Strong on the ball and a great passer. Even his crossing is getting better. Usually does a number on his rival winger or left back, though sometimes leaves us on the edge of our seat. Fecks up now and again but who doesn´t? Wouldn´t trade him for any other right back in the PL. Not spectacular nor world class, but United through and through. Am not on the negative bandwagon.
To be fair, history shows that Ferguson, Moyes, Goggs and Van Gaal would surely be in accord.
To be fair, history shows that Ferguson, Moyes, Goggs and Van Gaal would surely be in accord.
He was great most of the year as RB but the past month (along with several other players tbf like Blind and even Yougn & Fellaini who've rediscovered themselves a bit today) he's gone off the boil since maybe the Everton loss. We need a proper RB but he'll still be a valuable squad player for next year if not a starter.
He's fine but I'm sure we'll bring in competition for him over the summer. He should really be playing a squad role if we have any hopes of winning the league or progressing to the later stages of the CL.
Worse than Evans and Blind? Come off it
That's all true but would you not agree he was terrible today and has been for the last few games? Ignoring that would be as biased as those comments implying he's been this bad all season.
His outside of the boot crosses make me want to cry.
Nobby is absurd when it comes to Valencia, always has been.
I just hope to feck he's our backup right back next year.
If only we had Nanikins . . .
Worse than Evans and Blind? Come off it
I'd say he was worse than both of them too.
I thought he was ok today, and for the last couple of matches.
Difference being that when Nani went to shit I acknowledged it, something you've never done with Valencia.
He was shit today and he's not good enough for Man Utd anymore.
Jaysus.
Well aren´t you my hero.
If even Pogue is saying he was shit then saying he was ok is truly scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Bring on the gifs of all his shit play
He gives away so many shit set pieces and free kicks in dangerous areas. Tony scares me as a right back.
OMG, it must be true. What did LVG think?
I thought Valencia was shocking today. He gave away so many needless free kicks and his final cross was the usual(awful). It seems so long since Valencia has skinned a player and made the right choice. He's a backup player at best, we really need to address that position in the summer. His work ethic is fantastic, he tries his best but it's a shame Rafa never got a proper chance this season. Valencia's negative style is frustrating to watch but maybe his confidence is just gone. I really hope he doesn't play as a regular next year.
I hate the way he looks to burst forward, checks back and passes it backwards to someone in a worse position, his defending is always questionable relying more-so on his athleticism than brain back there.
I dont rate him at all right wing either, but for the fact hes usually fit and so many other areas needing attention this summer I would say it's questionable how much hes worth keeping around as even a squad player.
I dont rate him at all right wing either, but for the fact hes usually fit and so many other areas needing attention this summer I would say it's questionable how much hes worth keeping around as even a squad player.
So why does LVG (and Ferguson and Giggs and Moyes) insist on him? There are plenty of options for right back if he is so shocking.
Maybe LVG sees the same thing I do
Maybe LVG sees the same thing I do
I like Valencia and really wanted him to make it as a right back. It isn't happening though. Way too many mistakes and poor going forward. Rafael is twice the player but since he's never fit we need to buy
Who are the other options?
Rafael is the only right back we have and he's always injured.
And? Doesn't dispute the reality that he wasn't. Evans in his first minute slipped and gave a man a run into the box..less than 15 minutes later he's been nutmegged by Zaha also ona run into our box. Evans was a desperate throw of the dice by LvG and was our worst defender. Blind was also very poor as our DM - didn't stop palace at all from attacking us, and didn't help set any tempo for us. If they had better strikers we'd have lost that game.
Valencia also created one chance for Fellaini early second half before they equalised(which everyone is forgetting) that Fellaini put right into Speroni's arms.
Give up guys. Only Nobby, SAF, LVG and Moyes can really see his quality.
Despite RB being the 1st position we'll go out and sign someone this summer? it's obvious Rafael hasnt the discipline to play LvG's system, not to mention his injuries, the only other option for the spot is a 19 year old McNair.
Besides which he was a completely different player and role played under Sir Alex for the majority.
Urm Paddy, Smalling, Big Phiw . . . Rafa was ready for much of the time. If he was so bloody shocking, surely a genius like LVG would´ve looked for someone else. Even in the Arse cup match of his massive feck up, LVG said he was our best player.
I trust your evaluation of Tony about as much as I consider your evaluation of the long gone Nanikins.
And why don´t you ask your boy Pogue about his evaluation of the Berbatoss vs Tevez debate. End of, ha ha
So a load of average center backs and a right back LvG doesn't rate.
You're a child.
I think he's played every week (beside's Rafael's injury) because he's average in a way that he doesn't hurt you too much. But as the season has worn on, his play has gotten worse and we look more and more vulnerable on his side. It is also criminal that Mata and Herrera link so well together on his side but they don't really have a second attacker option because he's totally clueless when he has the ball.
How am I a child? Cause I won´t join a jilted Nanboi and his bandwagon against one of our steadiest players and LVG´s decisions?
Because you post like a petulant little child.
Hell hath no fury like that of a jilted Nanboi
He has had a decent season but that's not enough for a club with our ambitions. His crossing is so poor that it's so easy to forget he's actually a winger who plays at RB.
I think his crossing has improved. Not great, but defo improved
Somehow Valenci get's into such good positions, but somehow fluffs every one of them.
I think today he was probably very aware of the attacking pace of the Palace wingers. He has not been as bad as people make out, but it obviously not his preferred position. I do not think LVG rate Rafael, I can't believe he has been injured all season.
I haven't seen much improvement really, but even if he did improve a bit it's still poor.
Give credit due for getting into good positions, and for some great passing and first touch. Of course from these good positions a goal or a chance is not created every time, but to say he "fluffs" it every time, is absurd, and knee jerk and bandwagonesque
He along with Johnny Evans are about as thick as they come, wtf? Sign a proper RB ffs.
This is much more typical of Valencia on attack these days. Nothing spectacular, but understated and spot on, and credit is never given.