Actually thought he was one of, if not the, worst player tonight. Looked so clueless defending that pretty much all of their threat came on our right hand side.
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Man of the Match for me. Yes he shouldn't have under hit the back pass but then why didn't Jones clear the fecking ball when he had the chance?.
Apart from that though he hardly have sanchez a sniff and attacked well. Was solid all game imo.
Disagree mate, I thought he was poor all-round. Passing was off, defending was very poor and did nothing going forward.
Ekeke
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9 times out of 10 Valencia has performed well as our backup right back this season.
Tonight was a poor night where he clearly had to be subbed off before he did us too much harm to come back from. And its compounded by the fact that our best RB is fit and has been available without selection for a while. Which suggests that in LVG's mind Valencia is first choice RB
So in summary - a good enough backup RB, not a good enough first choice RB and it was a poor choice to pick him in such a big game and completely and utterly crazy to keep him on when he's out there having a mare.
Tonight was a poor night where he clearly had to be subbed off before he did us too much harm to come back from. And its compounded by the fact that our best RB is fit and has been available without selection for a while. Which suggests that in LVG's mind Valencia is first choice RB
So in summary - a good enough backup RB, not a good enough first choice RB and it was a poor choice to pick him in such a big game and completely and utterly crazy to keep him on when he's out there having a mare.
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Please feck off Valencia.
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Raw
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What an absolutely horrible performance from him. I praised him earlier but today really showed his ability against a top player like Sanchez.
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He's not good enough to be our long-term right back. He can mask his mistakes when we're controlling games by offering a decent attacking threat, but he's simply not a full-back overall, and it showed tonight. Horrendous error for the second goal.
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Man of the Match for me. Yes he shouldn't have under hit the back pass but then why didn't Jones clear the fecking ball when he had the chance?.
Apart from that though he hardly have sanchez a sniff and attacked well. Was solid all game imo.
What game were you watching?
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9 times out of 10 Valencia has performed well as our backup right back this season.
Tonight was a poor night where he clearly had to be subbed off before he did us too much harm to come back from. And its compounded by the fact that our best RB is fit and has been available without selection for a while. Which suggests that in LVG's mind Valencia is first choice RB
So in summary - a good enough backup RB, not a good enough first choice RB and it was a poor choice to pick him in such a big game and completely and utterly crazy to keep him on when he's out there having a mare.
I'd agree with this. I think he can be competent in the position against smaller teams, but unless it's completely necessarily, he really should not be playing there when we're up against top opposition because it's what results in him getting exposed.
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If Rafael doesn't start the next game I've had it.
Ish
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This.9 times out of 10 Valencia has performed well as our backup right back this season.
Tonight was a poor night where he clearly had to be subbed off before he did us too much harm to come back from. And its compounded by the fact that our best RB is fit and has been available without selection for a while. Which suggests that in LVG's mind Valencia is first choice RB
So in summary - a good enough backup RB, not a good enough first choice RB and it was a poor choice to pick him in such a big game and completely and utterly crazy to keep him on when he's out there having a mare.
Had a mare out there.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that too.9 times out of 10 Valencia has performed well as our backup right back this season.
Tonight was a poor night where he clearly had to be subbed off before he did us too much harm to come back from. And its compounded by the fact that our best RB is fit and has been available without selection for a while. Which suggests that in LVG's mind Valencia is first choice RB
So in summary - a good enough backup RB, not a good enough first choice RB and it was a poor choice to pick him in such a big game and completely and utterly crazy to keep him on when he's out there having a mare.
I just hate him though, even when he was a good winger a couple years back I hated him. His whole limited style of play gets on my nerves and his bloody throw-ins.
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How has a guy so out of his depth for so much of his time at United managed to play so many fecking games?
MyOnlySolskjaer
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He's a wingback, he's a winger but not a fullback. End of debate.
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He's a mediocre winger and a subpar wing-back. He tries hard, god bless him but it's just not there. At least Rafael has some fecking talent.
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He's a wingback, he's a winger but not a fullback. End of debate.
He's not a winger either. He's just fecking shite and should be sold asap.
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Nail in the coffin tonight. His mistake leaves us out of the cup. Culpable for the first goal too but the second was unforgivable.
He's not nearly good enough to be our first choice full back or right midfielder. Thanks for the service, but it's time to go.
He's not nearly good enough to be our first choice full back or right midfielder. Thanks for the service, but it's time to go.
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Was shown up drastically but he has been solid up until now though. Unfortunately it happened in a big game. The under hit backpass was awful.
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Man of the Match for me. Yes he shouldn't have under hit the back pass but then why didn't Jones clear the fecking ball when he had the chance?.
Apart from that though he hardly have sanchez a sniff and attacked well. Was solid all game imo.
really? Sanchez ran at him at will, he was one of the worst players on the pitch and that's before the backpass. I shat myself everytime Sanchez went 1-on-1 against him.
justboy68
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Considering Rafael is out of favour we are surely in the hunt for a right back in the summer anyway. I expect Valencia will still be around as backup, which is fine. Cost us tonight though the silly buggar.
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Fingers well and truly fecking crossed.I wonder if we can put the myth that he's a decent defender to bed?
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How has a guy so out of his depth for so much of his time at United managed to play so many fecking games?
Exactly this. Was actually shocked by the amount of people defending him even up until a few days ago. Players like him, Fellaini, Jones and co. are why we are stagnating in a big way.
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That's he effect good players have, hazard is the same. I thought he generally did well though unless he let him get turned and running, but then everybody would find that tough.really? Sanchez ran at him at will, he was one of the worst players on the pitch and that's before the backpass. I shat myself everytime Sanchez went 1-on-1 against him.
Nail in the coffin tonight. His mistake leaves us out of the cup. Culpable for the first goal too but the second was unforgivable.
He's not nearly good enough to be our first choice full back or right midfielder. Thanks for the service, but it's time to go.
How many times has that been said? he'll start our next game and the ten after that.
bosnian_red
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Thought he had a good game if you ignore him being mainly at fault for both goals. Unfortunately you can't ignore that. All over the place and way too soft in the tackle for their first, and then the second was just an under hit back pass. It happens, but it's cost us the result today.
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After today's performance it's clear even he wants Rafael to start.
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How many times has that been said? he'll start our next game and the ten after that.
Sorry. I agree with you. I meant it should be the nail in the coffin. But it won't.
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I can only imagine the excuses that would be made for Rafael if he made the same mistake. Nice to see people couldn't wait for their opportunity to pounce. This place really is a sad indictment on Utd fans at times.
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LVG said he was our MOTM tonight.
If Van Gaal has any self-decency, he should 1) say nothing about Valencia and 2) throw a boot right above Valencia's eye to make it self-explanatory about what he thinks.
LVG said he was our MOTM tonight.
Really?!
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Not sure what van Gaal was on about in his post-game praise of Valencia.
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As much as I believe in the guy, LVG does talk a lot of nonsense most of the time
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He was brilliant imo apart from the bacm pass (not that this is some minor thing), really felt for him because he played very good.
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It's not nail in the coffin though, is it?Nail in the coffin tonight. His mistake leaves us out of the cup. Culpable for the first goal too but the second was unforgivable.
He's not nearly good enough to be our first choice full back or right midfielder. Thanks for the service, but it's time to go.
Bad mistakes but find it hard to criticise him too much, being played out of position and usually performs to a pretty good level. We all want Rafa to be first choice though, want to see him back in the team soon.
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He isn't a good enough player to be at United.
He was at fault during both the goals conceded tonight. Not damning in itself, but he doesn't add anything to us to make up for it and hasn't in a long time.
What he was doing for the first goal, I don't know. Turning round in to someone instead of keeping an eye on the ball and going for it?
He was at fault during both the goals conceded tonight. Not damning in itself, but he doesn't add anything to us to make up for it and hasn't in a long time.
What he was doing for the first goal, I don't know. Turning round in to someone instead of keeping an eye on the ball and going for it?
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It's not nail in the coffin though, is it?
Bad mistakes but find it hard to criticise him too much, being played out of position and usually performs to a pretty good level. We all want Rafa to be first choice though, want to see him back in the team soon.
He hasn't played at a pretty good level for ages (one season where he did?). All he's added since is filling the space on the pitch.
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