With the way Valencia has and is playing Rafael has a long wait on the sidelines.
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No chance. Rafael is a lot better at RB and better going forward than Valencia.
Also Valencia has mastered the art of knocking the ball way too far ahead of him and running into a player to win a free-kick.
Him and Young are better as a full backs than as a wingers
Agreed. He had a good game last night - even looked magnificently composed when they broke out following our corner and was left as last man when he intercepted and turned effortlessly away from trouble and started our move back into their area again.
I haven't seen him beat a defender like he did yesterday since 2011/12.
I still hope United are looking for a new RB, but Valencia is doing pretty well do far.
Great to see him drop the shoulder and move forward with pace again at times.
Did well. Both he and Young do a good job even though they are no defenders
I wish he would learn how to take a throw-in. It sounds ridiculous but that one he got called up on (which he does every game) was when we had a throw deep in Stoke's half and could have relieved some pressure by keeping it there but they got the throw instead and came straight up the other end on the attack. It baffling really.
It helps when RvP stands on the defenders leg first.
Wonders do happen - I saw him pass the ball with his left foot yesterday, and against Hull!
Also, discussions about him having lost pace should probably be over, right? His pace when running through their defense a couple of times was Bale-esque.
Also, discussions about him having lost pace should probably be over, right? His pace when running through their defense a couple of times was Bale-esque.
I'd love a gif of that burst of pace in the 2nd half into the penalty box with the fantastic cross that went across the face of goal following it. It was classic Valencia, really good to see.
A gif of that would be most welcome. Olly?
Ermmm....No!
About time he got called for a foul throw-in. Hopefully someone takes him aside and tells him how to do it now. Oddly enough the one he got called for wasn't half as noticeable as some of his others either.
Southampton 1:2 Man Utd
Not our only poor player by any means, but he needs to start doing more than passing it sideways/backwards. This is embarrassing
Needs to get forwards more. Too much respect for soton and mane.
He's such a coward. Please Rafael stay fit.
Still can't throw a ball!
Christ, he's annoying me. What does he actually do? When we're defending he's not even in the picture half the time, because he's wandered off and is marking some grass somewhere else on the pitch. He doesn't offer anything going forward (Rooney had a right moan about it during second half) and when he finally does it takes him absolute ages to get back. No sense of urgency whatsoever. In defence, he's never actually marking anyone. He's just running around randomly and passing his man on to the nearest United player. I actually believe that he's a big part of the reason our defence looks unorganised at times, because whoever comes out as cover (which is very much needed) more often than not actually ends up marking the man while Valencia wanders off.
Hopefully he's close to the door.
He never takes on the defender, ever. He doesn't even try to. The first thing on his mind is whether he should pass it sideways or backwards. Part of the reason we had nothing going forward today, our wingbacks need to drive the ball forward in this system.
I've called Valencia a coward many a time, spineless is probably a better word. Nothing player.
Lacking in confidence doesn't make you a coward. I hate the use of that word in football these days.
He's lacking in confidence with a long fecking time at this stage. Cowardly, nothing player.
Good defensively, offers little to nothing going forwards. Last match he showed his pace and skinned a couple of players. He looked to have Bertrand on his knees a couple of times, but then decided against it. Is he so terrified of making mistakes or gaping holes in defense that he is unwilling to go forwards? He doesn't even make runs in behind defenses... Do you guys remember him when he played RB behind Nani? It was unfair to the opposition; Valencia's pace and crossing from behind must have been terrifying. Now they can put up a cone in defense and put two wingers instead.
Is he really though?
Was abysmal today in my view. Did nothing to support moves going forward or on the counter. Has become an extremely timid player; we don't need that if we're to truly challenge for the title again. Would very much prefer a player that wasn't limited by his one footedness and lack of imagination.
I'm not even going to complain. Today is what I've come to expect from Valencia.
He is a right winger playing as a right back and yet he refuses to go forward. There was one passage where Fellaini expected him to be overlapping into the space but he just stayed stationary.
It reminds me a bit of Ultimate Team where you use a player with high pace and good defensive workrates so you play him because he will not get caught up the field. He just does... Nothing. Serious cover for Rafael is needed as we get better.
No, he's awful defensively.
Solid enough, there's no longer any point in getting frustrated with him offering zero in attack, it's like stepping into a river and being surprised when you come out wet.
Such a limited player. How he has been with us for such a long time, I will never know. Seemed very afraid to go forward today, even though we were playing 3 at the back and he was supposed to provide width. Very unambitious as well, I don't think he has shown any desire over the years to improve himself. He has exactly the same limitations he had years ago - shit crossing, no left foot, can't beat a defender, zero creativity, easy sideways/backward passing and no risk taking.
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Has somebody a gif of the situation before Southhampton's goal? Valencia looked totally uninvolved like he didn't care at all. Always a few steps away from his opponent. (You can say the same about Fellaini of course.)
Hopefully Rafael is back soon, he's definitely a level above Valencia. However I am still comfortable with Valencia being a back-up.
Coward might be too strong a word but he does not take any responsibility or iniitative. Young at least will try and beat his man, get a cross in, want the ball etc. Valencia if the ball finds it way to him just reverts to the same half yard burst then smash it against the defender, if he gets that far up the pitch. If we're not winning he has no confidence to try and change the game himself, he's a passenger most of the time. When we're decimated by injuries is the only time he should be playing, he shouldn't be anywhere near our first time otherwise, he just isn't the same player he was.