He's an absolute fecking coward. Can't stand him.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 35
- Clean sheets
- 12
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
- 4
I don't know if it was down to watching the triple death trap of Fletcher, Cleverlessly and Young today but Valencia actually looked decent. Sure he could have taken on the left back more in one on one situations but when he did he produced the one good chance of the game for us. He did however go ahead and screw himself up with his mistake on the corner that led to their goal.
On the plus side, he's one of our few players who possesses this magically thing known as a "first touch" and so can actually control the ball.
The problem is he normally does feck all after that point... and the one time where he actually attempted do something that could be considered slightly dangerous (i.e take his man on), we scored a sodding goal... which you might have thought would be the catalyst for him to try it more often... but no, he just reverted to passing it backwards 5 yards from then on in.
Still, at least he passed it reasonably accurately.
The problem is he normally does feck all after that point... and the one time where he actually attempted do something that could be considered slightly dangerous (i.e take his man on), we scored a sodding goal... which you might have thought would be the catalyst for him to try it more often... but no, he just reverted to passing it backwards 5 yards from then on in.
Still, at least he passed it reasonably accurately.
Every LB has him sussed out. Two years ago. All anyone has to do is push him onto his left, and 99.9% of the time it'll result in a short back pass infield.
He's been unable/unwilling to work on a solution, hence the completely inept performances.
He and Young need to start making runs behind the defense. They're making it much harder on the midfielders. The fact that they don't dribble either means it's too easy for them to focus on the front 3.
This guys found out. unfortunate but he's had an epic fall from grace. I have lost any sentimentality I held for some of our players. How he was given a new contract is beyond me. We desperately need rid of players like him.
I don't think I have ever seen such a one-footed player. It is remarkable the way he refuses to use his left foot, and remarkable that he made it to Manchester United being able to only use one foot.
He's not a coward. Tom Cleverley is a coward, Valencia is just shit.
Good thing we have him tied for the next 3 years.
I really remember this too, I was like "wtf, the ball wasn't that high, he could have controlled it"
He was ok defensively yesterday but if he continue to put in performance like this offensively I wouldn't start him ahead of Lingard let alone Rafael.
He's lazy - a professional footballer with nothing else to do all day can work on his wrong foot to the point where it is at least functional. Quite why a supposedly elite club hasn't forced him to do so is another question.
He makes Young look like Luis Figo.
He makes me want to claw my eyes out.
He makes me want to claw my eyes out.
Why are people saying he was good defensively when he was the man assigned to mark Rodwell?
One second in a match defines an overall performance?
New season, same Valencia. To think we all once viewed him as a major asset. Now I wouldn't even play him in our 2nd string team. He's fecking useless.
He's worse than useless. He's been a fecking liability going forward for 3 seasons running now and still gets in the team.
He was solid defensively apart from the mistake that cost us a goal.
Whenever he is on defensive duties his positoning almost always leads to a chance for the opposition at some point.
He does have this issue. A drawback considering he has played as a winger for basically all of his career though. Luckily his pace means he can recover most of the time.
Yup, making him another player whose wages we'd have to pay if we ever wanted to offload him.
Let us put aside all emotions and prejudices for moment and let us look at him objectivley. I talkes with some mates who are Gooners this weekend, and while they don't particularly care for United, they are usually fair when assesing rival squads.
Basically, they both said the current Valencia was one of the if not THE worst winger in the league. Never mind his awful "stats", his contribution to our build-up and general offensive play is also beyond depressing.
I know bashing players after a dissapointing result seems childish, but this guy has been a liabilty for two years now.
Basically, they both said the current Valencia was one of the if not THE worst winger in the league. Never mind his awful "stats", his contribution to our build-up and general offensive play is also beyond depressing.
I know bashing players after a dissapointing result seems childish, but this guy has been a liabilty for two years now.
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Did ok defensively but offered not much going forward except for the assist. Just not good enough for United anymore
The most frustrating thing for me about Valencia s that people say 'he's got no left foot' because of his refusal to use it (he'll do a 360 just to avoid it). However, the rare times he's used it from memory it's been perfectly fine. Against Villa last year when he was on fire he put in a dangerous left foot cross that Giggs nearly got on the end of early on, then played that quality reverse through ball Welbeck using his left also. In the past, I'm sure he's even got assists with it, so why doesn't he use it more often? His whole game for us up to 2012 was going past a man and firing in a cross along the 6 yard line (like he did yesterday) but obviously now full backs show him inside. If he could just show the opposition a decent left foot cross they'd be more chance of space opening up on the outside.
@Pexbo - You should make a Michael Keane thread. The lad is a bit of a unit.
But the most annoying thing is that he doesn't even attempt to take on his man. When he does square up in an one-on-one situation, he tends to look rather dangerous.
It's obvious that Van Gaal has told the players to pass it square if there is nothing on, which is why Valencia hasn't even tried to take on his man in the first 2 games, apart from the one time, where we scored. But surely that should be one of the winger's duties - to take on their player when 1 v 1, and create something using technique and pace.
Nah, he was caught napping a few times. Jones did a terrific job making up for "wing-backs'" mistakes.
Errr people aren't literally saying he doesn't have a left foot, they're saying he doesn't use it...
I honestly thought he was one of our better players yesterday, doesn't deserve the hate he gets here. I'm not saying he was good, but certainly better than Cleverley, Fletcher, Rooney and RVP. Arguably not worse than any of the others.
LB's didn't suddenly figure out how to stop him. The trick to stopping him has always been apparent but he was still good enough to go past them. For the last 3 years though, it's like someone has sliced his balls off. He could be 1v1 against his full back and he'll still around 180 and pass it back to Rafael.
OK fine. The point is, he only needs to show the left back he can actually produce something when shown inside on his left and they'll be more space for him to exploit on his stronger foot.
We sent Nani away and kept this shit on a stick
His positioning is fine. He's just shit in the air. Always has been. I remember when people were talking about converting him to right back a year or two ago - I was saying the same thing then.
I think honestly people are expecting too much attacking contributions from the wingbacks because the midfield and front 3 didn't cobble up one chance together. Also due to lack of control The ball went to them without even having a running start on the fullback most of the time.
Once the midfield is controlling the match and we have front 3 moving around playing short passes intricately then it becomes less of a problem as they can be supplementary attackers and arrive on the scene once there is a opening like it happens for Juventus for example.
Or we could go defensive and have a attacking outlet centrally like a Robben play on the counter.
We could ofcourse upgrade their as well and find a Cafu, Roberto Carlos but finding the right balance is becoming a problem.
Once the midfield is controlling the match and we have front 3 moving around playing short passes intricately then it becomes less of a problem as they can be supplementary attackers and arrive on the scene once there is a opening like it happens for Juventus for example.
Or we could go defensive and have a attacking outlet centrally like a Robben play on the counter.
We could ofcourse upgrade their as well and find a Cafu, Roberto Carlos but finding the right balance is becoming a problem.
and that is really saying something.
This thread title. 
I've never been a huge fan of Valencia. He's just such a boring player, and for a club that prides itself on exciting attacking footballers, especially wingers, it makes me wonder how he's lasted this long.
I've never been a huge fan of Valencia. He's just such a boring player, and for a club that prides itself on exciting attacking footballers, especially wingers, it makes me wonder how he's lasted this long.
It baffles me that any player can play for a top club whilst being quite so one-footed as Valencia. I have never seen such a one-footed player in my life.
Valencia does have some good attributes, he has power, pace, work ethic, but his technical attributes leave a lot to be desired.
Valencia does have some good attributes, he has power, pace, work ethic, but his technical attributes leave a lot to be desired.
Valencia has wonderful pace and power still so he's a decent squad player to have....If he can find relearn how to beat his man and get those low crosses in then he can be of benefit to us but yesterday he just opted for the easy option nearly every time yet even though he ws very average - compared to the likes of Cleverley, Fletcher and Mata at least Valencia showed a little balls
He's just a massive oaf. For someone so quick he's got a terrible leap and usually prefers to barge them in the back and concede a freekick.
Why has happened to him? I mean seriously? From our player of the season a few years back, to one of our worst players now. Is it even possible to regress that much?