Antoine Semenyo

I feel like he'd be a better WB than #10 in United's system - he's a natural wide player who'll instinctively peel to the touchline (like Garnacho) and has decent defensive stats for his position and the physical stature and attributes to make it work.

That said, £65m is too much even if you're going to plug & play him in his most natural position, and so certainly too much to experiment with him in a role - whether that be RWB or AM - in a system that he doesn't have experience in.
 
He would improve you team but he is not worth that kind of money. That’s robbery.
 
We need to be looking at the likes of the next Semenyo type players we can get in for cheap rather than £60-70 on him and save the 60-70 for potential world class players.
 
I do consider him too. I see his attacking abilites. Consistently? Yes. Compare to others not consistently players of course.

But with the 60 mill price. I have to compare to others options.

Others players that has caught mine eyes.

Cunha, Mbeumo.


But back to Semenyo. He can plays on boths wings. Because his one on one ability is really high and good. And because of his explosiveness and acceleration. Combine with the football skills. Together = Really good one on one ability.

I think he can play as a left 10 too.

But compare to Cunha, who is a more CAM, and lesser winger. That are the differents.


Considering = He does impress me = Then i might buy him for a good price.


Of course. His performances. I do recognized it. Impress me....then it got to be on the highest level. Consistently on the highest level. How often can you put the ball in the net or serve and make your teammates looks really good.

Playmaker and top service ability = make your teammates looks good.

He does score goals and set up others too. All in one. A very good attacking player on his best days.
 
steeeb said:
We need to be looking at the likes of the next Semenyo type players we can get in for cheap rather than £60-70 on him and save the 60-70 for potential world class players.
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You either identify your transfer targets soon or you pay for the work of others. It seems any relegation candidate is able nowadays to get 1 or 2 cheap talents. It's not rocket science but for us is impossible.
 
flappyjay said:
8 goals and 4 assists in the league and people are actually endorsing this? For context Amad who hasnt played in ages has 6 goals and 6 assits in the league. For a team struggling with goals Semenyo is a no go. Even his overall play is not good enough.

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"Premier League proven" ...I feel this term is being used more and more loosely. What exactly has he "proven" anyway? He is not exactly one of the best players in the league and for the price he'd cost you would expect him to be.

A player's performance at Bournemouth is looked upon much more favourably than at United, if Semenyo performed the same here no one would be desperate for him to be starting games. Not saying he's rubbish but he's not special and I'm sure he's not even guaranteed starter for Bournemouth when everyone is fit. The huge price and actual talent means there are surely others we could find elsewhere to provide the same level he would. Bournemouth would probably replace him with someone similar level and we'd cry about how we had our pants pulled down again, but at least he's "Premier League proven".
 
He's a good player but mostly a runner and shooter. He's a winger with a good shot

The price being talked about is ridiculous, although Bournemouth did receive a huge amount for Solanke and Semenyo is their most consistently good player. I think he's more of a £30-40 million player and I dont believe he fits our system.
 
Would be a good signing for a more reasonable fee. And I doubt he would go for that much in the current financial climate anyway. Unless the destination is Saudi Arabia and that would be a shame.
 
He’s the sort of player that it isn’t even worth attempting to sign. The fee is so inflated it’s just a complete waste of time, unfortunately it applies to so many players in the Premier League now.

It’s not as risky if you have a better and more settled squad and can afford to gamble a big fee but in our circumstances it doesn’t make any sense.
 
So we’re looking at moving Rashford on and maybe Garnacho because they’re wingers and we don’t want to shoe horn wingers into a 10 position whilst apparently struggling financially so we’re apparently after Semenyo who’s a winger and has got the grand total of a season and a half PL experience and having had one good season would cost £60+ million.

Unless we’d be bringing Semenyo in as a right wing back which to my knowledge is a position he’s never played then it’s a signing that makes zero sense, I don’t want to imagine Amorim playing inside wing backs with them on their unfavored side seeing as we’ve looked far better with wing backs playing on the side of their stronger foot and providing natural width.
 
If he's signed as a wingback it makes a world of sense, even at that fee.
 
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Not at that price they aren't. We got just play Amad at wing-back and sign someone better than Semenyo to play as a 10.
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Its a crucial role and requires a very specific type of physicality which this player has. Amad may or may not be a 10, we don't really know what Amorim has planned for him.

A powerful wingback capable of defensive and attacking prowess with high physical strength and pace is very hard to find. Semenyo would be ideal for the role.
 
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VP89 said:
Its a crucial role and requires a very specific type of physicality which this player has. Amad may or may not be a 10, we don't really know what Amorim has planned for him.
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I don't think we should be spending that much on a wing-back. However, I'd be a lot more in favour of spending that sort of money on a striker or on a number 10 who is better than Semenyo.
 
Remember the geese said:
I don't think we should be spending that much on a wing-back. However, I'd be a lot more in favour of spending that sort of money on a striker or on a number 10 who is better than Semenyo.
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After ST, wingback is probably the area we are weakest and they are absolutely vital to this system.
At least in the 10 we have Bruno. Amad, Zirkzee, Mount and these variations can offer something different.

The width and a lot of our creativity is reliant on physically impressive and tactically smart wingbacks who should display some good end product. We won't be able to do much better than Semenyo in that mould.
 
VP89 said:
After ST, wingback is probably the area we are weakest and they are absolutely vital to this system.
At least in the 10 we have Bruno. Amad, Zirkzee, Mount and these variations can offer something different.

The width and a lot of our creativity is reliant on physically impressive and tactically smart wingbacks who should display some good end product. We won't be able to do much better than Semenyo in that mould.
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I think we need goals. Therefore a striker and a number 10 are very important. Amad looks like the best wing-back we have. In an ideal world, we would sign Osimhen and one of Cunha or Cherki to play as a 10, alongside Bruno. Then you can cheat a bit and have an extra attacking threat in Amad. I think Quenda was a special case in the sense that we'll choose to redistribute our "wing-back fund" to the forward positions.
 
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I think we need goals. Therefore a striker and a number 10 are very important. Amad looks like the best wing-back we have. In an ideal world, we would sign Osimhen and one of Cunha or Cherki to play as a 10, alongside Bruno. Then you can cheat a bit and have an extra attacking threat in Amad. I think Quenda was a special case in the sense that we'll choose to redistribute our "wing-back fund" to the forward positions.
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Attacking wingbacks bring goals. Both directly from goals and assist contributions and also from expansive play and creating pockets for the 10s to create.

The current wingbacks we have are not at the required quality and rarely ever take players on physically, with crosses often blind and shots almost always wayward. Semenyo would be a big upgrade there and we know Amad is quite suited to the 10 anyway.
 
VP89 said:
Attacking wingbacks bring goals. Both directly from goals and assist contributions and also from expansive play and creating pockets for the 10s to create.

The current wingbacks we have are not at the required quality and rarely ever take players on physically, with crosses often blind and shots almost always wayward. Semenyo would be a big upgrade there and we know Amad is quite suited to the 10 anyway.
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You will see attacking wing-backs next season in the form of Amad and his deputy, Mantato. Amad is suited to 10, but he looks equally as effective, if not more so, at wing-back. If the choice is to spend £60-65m on a wing-back or to spend that much, or less, on Cunha or Cherki, it's a no brainer to me.
 
Remember the geese said:
You will see attacking wing-backs next season in the form of Amad and his deputy, Mantato. Amad is suited to 10, but he looks equally as effective, if not more so, at wing-back. If the choice is to spend £60-65m on a wing-back or to spend that much, or less, on Cunha or Cherki, it's a no brainer to me.
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I dont think it's a foregone conclusion that Amad will be a RWB next season. Cherki will be a very cheap option as a 10 which sort of makes the Semenyo move more palatable as you can get a wingback and a 10 for 80ish mil.

That being said I'm guesstimating our link is to play Semenyo at RWB or LWB. As a 10 I agree Cunha is better. But Semenyo just feels like one of those Wjinaldum esque signings before they made an obvious level up landed on an optimal system.
 
Why's everyone always whinging about money like it's their money...

Is he better than Dalot?

Yes, probably.

Would he improve our system of play?

Yes, probably.

Sign him up.
 
VP89 said:
I dont think it's a foregone conclusion that Amad will be a RWB next season. Cherki will be a very cheap option as a 10 which sort of makes the Semenyo move more palatable as you can get a wingback and a 10 for 80ish mil.

That being said I'm guesstimating our link is to play Semenyo at RWB or LWB. As a 10 I agree Cunha is better. But Semenyo just feels like one of those Wjinaldum esque signings before they made an obvious level up landed on an optimal system.
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Or Mane pre Liverpool
 
While it’s speculation until he actually lines up for United but he’s a perfect wingback for the system and it’s hard to imagine that not being what they have in mind. Price has to come down a bit though.
 
I honestly wouldn't go near Semenyo at the prices being quoted. It's not because I don't at all rate him as a player, although I don't think he's worth £60 million or more. I also don't think replacing Dalot should be considered that much of a priority this summer if the plan is to play Semenyo in the right wing-back role, and I think we can do quite a bit better for the attacking midfield spots that probably do need reinforcing.

If we're going to sign a right wing-back this summer, and ideally I think we probably should, that's one of the positions where I believe we can afford to go for a developing player to deputise for Dalot in the immediate future. Whilst he was a major problem when shoved out on his weaker left side, I actually think Dalot has been fairly decent now he's moved back over to the right flank. Certainly not one of the biggest issues in the side I don't think.
 
cpresc said:
Why's everyone always whinging about money like it's their money...

Is he better than Dalot?

Yes, probably.

Would he improve our system of play?

Yes, probably.

Sign him up.
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Financial fair play and the need to sign players in other problem positions.

Meanwhile Dan Ndoye will cost less and is just a good a player, perhaps even better IMO. Has also combined well with Zirkzee in the past while at Bologna.
 
Compared to £30m for Delap or £62m for Cunha it's obviously daylight robbery.

If we're playing him at wing back the fee is even worse. Does he even want to play wing back?

That sort of money should be reserved for players who are going to create on the level of Bruno or guarantee 15+ goals a season.
 
The fee carries alot of risk.
He could be on the cusp of being a very consistent 7/10 at wingback. Mirroring Dorgu with strength and acceleration.
However he might not step up and we have another Wan Bissaka on an inflated fee who doesnt really suit any position.
 
cpresc said:
Why's everyone always whinging about money like it's their money...

Is he better than Dalot?

Yes, probably.

Would he improve our system of play?

Yes, probably.

Sign him up.
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Because we are aware that the club have a finite amount of money and have seen us carelessly waste it for over a decade and lead us to the situation we are in now.

"Why are people always worried about money. Is Sancho better than Dan James? Sign him up then."

No one is saying we don't need to improve our squad. We just need to be careful with the limited funds we have and make sure we get any significant signings right.
 
Why would he want to play as a wing back after proving himself further forward?
 
Not sure why any winger would want to come here to play as a wing back. He’ll probably sign for Liverpool and he’ll do well there
 
Whenever we are linked to a striker I’ve never heard of, I know before looking at their goalscoring record that it’s going to be shite

Can’t we just get someone who scores goals? Why do we always have to make it hard for ourselves

The people in football who are most successful are those who keep it the most simple.
 
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