Funny you should ask bro:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...CEO-Peter-Kenyon-to-become-a-rugby-agent.html
The fecker still rattles my cage. Hate him!
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Funny you should ask bro:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...CEO-Peter-Kenyon-to-become-a-rugby-agent.html
The fecker still rattles my cage. Hate him!
I still think we need a wide player with pace and a direct goal threat personally. Valencia, Young and probably Nani (I must reluctantly concede) are not up to it. I don't think we have real top quality coming through our own ranks in this area either, and Griezmann wouldn't be a £40m player I doubt. If we got rid of at least 2 of the current lot, we could use a player like him to cover a range of positions.
Nani is twice the player this kid is IMO.
We just need to keep Nani fit and motivated, and he will carry on performing if he get's the chance.
We just need to keep Nani fit and motivated, and he will carry on performing if he get's the chance.
No way. Griezmann is a worldclass player imo.
World Cup 2014: Manchester United scout backs Antoine Griezmann to shine for France
By Patrick Haond | Last Updated: 05/03/14 6:39pm
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Antoine Griezmann: Backed to star for France
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Manchester United scout David Friio believes that Real Sociedad winger Antoine Griezmann can be an asset for France at the World Cup.
The 22-year-old is in line to earn his first Les Bleus cap in the friendly against Holland after an impressive season so far in La Liga, finding the net on 15 occasions.
A host of European sides have been reported to be tracking Griezmann, including United, Arsenal and Liverpool in recent transfer windows.
Friio, who began his playing career in France, has been watching Griezmann and thinks that he can be a star in Brazil this summer.
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Antoine Griezmann
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"Greizmann would clearly bring something," he told L'Equipe.
"His versatility and technique, in a tournament where the gaps are reduced, are real assets.
"You can't score 15 goals in a great league without having real qualities."
Friio also praised Griezmann for bouncing back after he was banned from international football for a year following a night out with his under-21s team-mates ahead of training.
"He never talked about it. He worked hard. He deserves an opportunity," Friio said.
"However, his lack of power could be a problem."
Meanwhile, former Arsenal midfielder and current club scout, Giles Grimandi, has also been keeping tabs on Griezmann, but has reservations about his ability to perform on the biggest stages.
"He clearly has something. There is no question about that.
"But in the Champions League during very high level matches, he suffered. Notably against Manchester United."
What does everyone think about this guy? He has been fantastic this the season but when I saw him against Man utd, he was nothing special. I think he has the same big game syndrome that Ronaldo had. Although, he did score 15 goals this season. At least he is better than Young and Valencia combined.
Against Barcelona last wee he was excellent.
He'd be a wonderful signing.
We're supposed to be favs.
The thing is, we really need him? i agree he is very good...
But we have Rooney, Kagawa, Mata, Hernandez, Januzaj, RVP, Januzaj, Welbeck, Lingard, Valencia, Young for the top 4 position...
Why can't we just spend the money on player we really need.
edit: forgot Hernandez...
Just posted in Twatter thread, but apparently David Moyes is at the France-Belgium match. Watching Griezmann maybe.
Well if we sell Valencia and Young, Hernandez is definitely leaving this summer, then we'll have just Kagawa, Mata, Januzaj, Nani, Rooney, Welbeck for those 4 positions (although I'd wish we'd just keep Rooney up top and leave the midfielders/wingers for those positions).
RVP might leave too. Ideally, next season we could have a selection of Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck for the striker position if RVP does leave, and then Kagawa, Mata, Januzaj, Nani and Griezmann/Reus/Draxler etc., for the 3 behind (with Lingard there too).
Doubt we'll sell Valencia and Young, it'll be Kagawa and Nani. So we will definitely need an attacking winger with flair like him.
Forget about Hernandez, Kagawa and Nani, all will leave soon. We could do with some quality out wide.
Is he hell.. He just seems to like scouting Fellaini.
Aren't they playing Holland?
Either way, I think we need an extra winger. We used to have the best wingers in the league, arguably in Europe, but we have been abysmal these last two seasons in that department. He didn't impress me at all against United though, and that's the only time I've seen him.
Do you think Young will feature in Moyes' plans for the future? Reus would be ideal - he's quick, versatile, great technique, scores and assists.
Played 68 minutes and made 20 passes, 11th most in the France team one behind Benzema. Thats sort of what you get with Griezmann - then he pops up once or twice with a run into or around the edge of the box and scores a couple of great goals. Didnt happen tonight, but thats what you should expect from him. Not running at players down the wing and putting a ball into the box.
Not even the best winger on his team. Vela >
Doesn't strike as a great winger at all - more like Chicharito playing out wide. In most of his La Real matches he just pops up with goals without too much involvement in the build up. Great skill to have but not the best package overall. His scoring stats are great but that's about it. Not great at dribbling, can't cross too well, doesn't create goal-scoring oppurtunities for his nakama, not the most incisive passer, can't beat him man too often. Don't want. Thauvin >>
Seems a bit like Schurrle from what I've seen
We definitely need to strengthen there but we need to sell first to open up space. I wouldn't look too much into the game against us, real sociedad didn't really care about the group stages and played like shit throughout.
Sadly yes I think moyes will keep both Valencia and young at the club, but only as squad players after this summer. Agree on reus, he'd be perfect, one of my favourite players right now.
He is a player who I really like but he is not what United need. Calling him Chicarito playing out wide is a tad harsh, as he is more skillful, but he is definitely not your typical winger, he is a wide forward.
If United signed gim, I think it would be the Kagawa story all over - a good player who does not fit the system.
If United signed gim, I think it would be the Kagawa story all over - a good player who does not fit the system.
Had no idea he was French, thought he was Swiss or German or something.
Schurrle at Leverkusen was a player who got the ball on the left, ran straight towards the middle of the goal (perhaps past a player) on his right foot and had a shot. Yeah he has a bit more to his game than that, but thats the reason he has a good goalscoring record in bundasliga. He dribbled, shot and scored.
Griezmann is almost the opposite of that. You dont know where he'll be and all of a sudden he'll be making a run behind the defence to try and get on the end of the ball and if he gets to it he usually has the quality to finish a difficult chance. Its something Tom Ince is quite good at too, but obviously with less talent and ability than Griezmann.
He's definitely the man on the end of the move rather than the creator.
It's not a harsh comparison, rather a stupid one -- there's no comparison between them at all. He has great technique and good passing, it's just that his natural movement brings him inside because he's always had nice shooting ability. This year he is just converting much more of his chances, several of them coming from Vela. His movement is beneficial on his part because Ángel likes moving forward and joining the attack, like Evra does.
Griezmann isn't a system player at all, he's adaptable and versatile. He's the new winger breed. Not an 81-cross count winger, but given how often Young plays in the left-centre channel to offer space for Evra, you can expect Griezmann to play that role even better. Not exactly sure why there would be any United fans picky about wingers; Griezmann, like any decent wide player would walk into the starting lineup. He's not a realistic option anyways at the moment I think, Aperribay was talking about how the €30m release clause would have to be matched for Griezmann to move. And he seems committed to the cause as well.
Just your typical "x" player doing well at "y" club (smaller club) and now "z" club (bigger club) is interested in "x" player's services transfer story.
Now I can't claim to be an expert on either player but even with your descriptions they sound similar. Playing on the shoulder of the last man, using pace to get behind the line and on the end of through balls, rarely getting involved with interplay and shooting on sight. Perhaps his role at Chelsea is the better comparison as he seems to come in from the right rather than the left, but from what I've seen the only obvious difference is which foot they favour.
I did not say he was a system player, I just said that the role which he plays does not exist in United's system. He is not an 81-cross count winger, but that is the sort of winger United need to have to play the type of football Moyes is trying to play (as sad as that is).
Even if United switched to a more modern approach, I'd be skeptical regarding the impact he would have, as United are already well stocked with scorers - they need creative players and providers, and these elements of Griezmann's play, although far from bad, are not his biggest strengths.
I'd love a Shurrle, or as I've said a few times - Pedro Rodriguez. He'd be my dream wing signing. A fast 'winger' who is in the team to score before he is to create. If we wish to transition into a front 3, we could definitely use a 20 goal winger as opposed to one more likely to get 20 assists.
Griezmann seems that type, although I don't think he has the raw pace of Pedro or Shurrle. They are rare wingers in what they provide. Jay Rodriguez or Walcott are equivalents in the Prem. A 9 and an 11 in one.
Griezmann seems that type, although I don't think he has the raw pace of Pedro or Shurrle. They are rare wingers in what they provide. Jay Rodriguez or Walcott are equivalents in the Prem. A 9 and an 11 in one.
Who will feed him the ball in our current system? He doesn't look like he's good in the air, and as most says, not good at crossing and running against man.
We're not exactly a passing team atm, cant see him playing ahead of valenica and young
Id rather we sack moyes first and foremost
We're not exactly a passing team atm, cant see him playing ahead of valenica and young
Id rather we sack moyes first and foremost
Toni Kroos, the way he feeds Robben. Keep up!
Schurrle isnt great off the ball. Griezmann is. Its like comparing Van Persie and Peter Crouch
So apparently going to PSG then... Was hoping we'd get him, seemed realistic, definitely more realistic then Reus or Draxler IMO.
Oh and if you don't speak french, it says:
"Antoine Griezmann has agreed terms to join PSG this summer"
Yeah, saw that. Definitely agree that he was more a realistic target than some of the other wide players we were linked with, disappointing to have missed out.
Saw him against Valencia a week or so ago, he was poor. Also saw the game previous to that against Rayo where he came off the bench and didnt have an impact. Havent seen their game this week but he's supposed to have been better.
PSG huh? Would he even get in the team? Cavani and Lavezzi are their wide forwards with Lucas Moura the backup
PSG huh? Would he even get in the team? Cavani and Lavezzi are their wide forwards with Lucas Moura the backup
Personally I'd rather we were looking at an attacking midfielder who while being a goal threat, also contributes a little more to the build up play (Reus, Draxler, Firmino). Griezmann is excellent, but not quite what we need in my view.
So does that mean Moura is available?
I would say the chances of attaining either of these two are extremely low this coming summer.
You didn't translate that right lol.
"Antoine Griezmann, joueur de la Real Sociedad, pourrait rejoindre dès cet été le club de la capitale."
- Antoine Griezmann, a player of Real Sociedad, could join the capital club (PSG) this summer.
The source claims that he would receive 3x his wage if he moves, which makes obvious sense considering the step up. But that's before you see the source.
Punto Pelota, the Spanish version of The Sun. It's a non-story, for now.
"Antoine Griezmann, joueur de la Real Sociedad, pourrait rejoindre dès cet été le club de la capitale."
- Antoine Griezmann, a player of Real Sociedad, could join the capital club (PSG) this summer.
The source claims that he would receive 3x his wage if he moves, which makes obvious sense considering the step up. But that's before you see the source.
Punto Pelota, the Spanish version of The Sun. It's a non-story, for now.
Reus and Draxler would be perfect, Firmino different from them from what I've seen. He's mainly a central player, albeit one more like Cazorla then Kagawa or Mata. We need genuine pace and quality out wide, somebody who also offers a goalscoring threat. Somebody like Nani (2010-2012), Di Maria, Reus or Draxler would be perfect. Januzaj to get the other wing. If this is true though, then maybe we could do a cheeky bid for Lucas as they'll have a few people in front of him.
I hope so. We could very well use his pace.
To be fair, I didn't click on the actual link, just saw the tweet which said "aurait déjà donné son accord pour rejoindre le PSG cet été," which is more saying that he's already given his word that he will. Also my french may be a tiny bit rusty, been almost 2 years since I spoke it!You didn't translate that right lol.
"Antoine Griezmann, joueur de la Real Sociedad, pourrait rejoindre dès cet été le club de la capitale."
- Antoine Griezmann, a player of Real Sociedad, could join the capital club (PSG) this summer.
The source claims that he would receive 3x his wage if he moves, which makes obvious sense considering the step up. But that's before you see the source.
Punto Pelota, the Spanish version of The Sun. It's a non-story, for now.
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