If they have Coutinho, Messi & Dembele to do the technical stuff then he can focus on movement & finishing, surely?
Antoine Griezmann| Catalunya Radio say Griezmann to Barcelona is done for €100m
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He isn't a lifelong United fan, people really need to stop with that one.
Griezmann's technique is perfectly fine, in fact he is a lot cleaner than Dembélé.
I was responding to someone with accepting their view as the base.
If he doesn't rate Griezmanns technique but rates his movement and finishing, then surely he can see that whatever weakness he thinks Griezmann has is already covered in the strengths of the players around him.
I think Suarez’ contribution to the build up and technical side of Barca is underrated. Mind I’m not saying Griezmann is some scrub, I just don’t think he’s close to Suarez (if that’s the one he’s indeed there to replace), him flopping is just a feeling I get because I feel Atletico’s system just works out perfectly for him, also, I feel like he was better 1-2 seasons ago.
Edit - A’s and B’s strengths covering C’s supposed weaknesses doesn’t always work out.
Suarez only has one thing over Griezmann, it's power, otherwise they are in the same range in all other aspects of the game, even though Griezmann is better at heading the ball.
Suarez has been the best striker in the world for the last few months, if he took penalties he'd have more goals than freaking Messi for the whole season and Barcelona are going to replace him? This makes no sense.
We should let them have him but while no one is watching bam! We snatch dembele on the process
Suarez is from reports on the vane, despite having picked up some form (from what I've read here), so it makes sense buying Griezmann who is in the beginning of his prime (26) is more a early move to replace a star that is fading in Suarez (31). Just like Coutinho is meant to be a long-term replacement for Iniesta.
If you rate Suarez above Griezmann I don't really have any issues with your view, but if we assume that Barcelona is thinking about making the team ready for when Messi goes so they don't have to change a lot at the same time as when he cannot produce the same magical moments then we cannot really fault them for changing out Suarez's contribution early while they can still get something for him in the market.
Changing out a ageing but still good Suarez with a slightly lesser (or equal/better depending on who you ask) player who is younger for what should be considered on the cheap with the buyout clause in the current transfer-climate... I'd say they are making a sensible choice by getting Griezmann in.
This is of course based on my assumption that Griezmann is to come in as a long-term replacement for Suarez.
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Suarez is probably the least marketable player Barca have for obvious reasons, Griezmann is a poster boy despite his recent "racist" antics.
It definitely makes sense for Barcelona who obviously want as many great players as possible but I'm guessing the players won't be too happy about it.
Messi is going to play, so then you have Suarez (over 80 million euros), Dembele (105 million euros), Coutinho (120 million euros) and Griezmann (100 million euros) knowing one of them will stay on the bench. An attack of 400 million plus Messi
It's unbelievable and I don't think a player that got bought for one of the 10 biggest transfer fees in history would be too happy about having 3 other guys plus Messi fighting for their spot in the team.
I don't think I disputed the motives/reasons behind this move. I think going for a quality player for what's now relatively cheap, is easily justifiable. I merely stated that I think he's going to flop based on me not thinking he's as good as what they are supposedly trying to replace or at least not as good at certain things, and me believing the player they are moving for has seen better form (although form is temporary and he can easily pick it up, especially with a good supporting cast).
Why would Griezmann replace Suarez. Suarez has been in fine form, Barcelona are dominating the league.
Why not?
They will still be able to dominate the league, whilst replacing a player for the long-term and cashing in while they can on the outgoing player.
That’s the right way to do it.
Everyone keeps saying Suarez is back to his best yet he looked as awful as he has done every time I've seen Barcelona over the past year against Chelsea, literally offered nothing
Some of you have never heard of rotation and injuries it seems. Would be surprised if they were all fit at the same time for longer periods. Coutinho and Dembele especially seem to pick up injuries, and Suarez and Messi could do with some rotation here and there. Suarez also will decline sharply sooner rather than later, his numbers in La Liga against cannon fodder wont change that.
He isn't a number 9.
This forum flips its shit when Pogba moves from a three to a two so God knows what would happen if this were Uniteds plan.
This forum flips its shit when Pogba moves from a three to a two so God knows what would happen if this were Uniteds plan.
People know about rotation. It's just that rotation usually isn't done with 4 of the 10 most expensive players in the history of the sport plus Messi on top of it.
And Suarez has been scoring a bunch of big goals for Barcelona, he's scored away against the second placed and third placed team in the league.
Once we bought Sanchez this was over for United, and with the type of #9 we have he was never a good fit, he is a quality player though so I'd be happy to see him at Barca rather than City or Chelsea or even Liverpool.
Fair play to Barca.
Look how they went about replacing Neymar v us with Ronaldo.
Also... Mourinho is happy with our attacking options. I don't understand why as only one of our attacking players could be considered world class. Barca will have 5-6 in that bracket.
Our attack is gash IMO.
Look how they went about replacing Neymar v us with Ronaldo.
Also... Mourinho is happy with our attacking options. I don't understand why as only one of our attacking players could be considered world class. Barca will have 5-6 in that bracket.
Our attack is gash IMO.
Yeah, the only thing which makes logical sense.
Pretty much. And it seems most on here would rather see us make do than invest. We could do that a bit back in the day because we already had a team full of world class talent. I'm not saying Griezmann is definitely right for us, but feck me, €100m is a bargain now.
That's a big club, making transfers, and retaining a sense of tradition in terms of how they play, even though different managers (Rikaard, Pep, Enrique, Valverde..) imprint their character on the team. This is what we should be doing.
So potentially, Barca will have Griezemann; Suarez; O Dembele; Couthino; Messi.
That's pretty impressive. Damn impressive in fact. Mourinho says he is happy with our attacking options? At a certain level, maybe... but competing with the other big clubs in Europe?
So potentially, Barca will have Griezemann; Suarez; O Dembele; Couthino; Messi.
That's pretty impressive. Damn impressive in fact. Mourinho says he is happy with our attacking options? At a certain level, maybe... but competing with the other big clubs in Europe?
If Mourinho shunts Martial/Rashford out the squad there would be uproar.
By reading interviews with Mou, it seems he respect the tradition of youth at Man Utd. He also has played Rashford, Lingard quite a lot - The next player up is McTominay. He'll never sell Rashford I think.
Yes, but people above are questioning why we are not trying to sign more forwards. I think the reason is pretty obvious.
He's played well with a lot of classic 9s in front of him at Atletico. He's significantly younger than Sanchez and can play off the right as he's left-footed. Would have been a better buy for Martial and Rashford's production, though cost much more.
Martial-Lukaku-Griezmann as a front 3 in tougher games and Griezmann as a 10 in easier games with Rashford, Mata, Lingard or a new and proper RW filling out the front 4 in easier games would have made a lot of sense.
Griezman could be the messi replacement - cheeky bid time
Man Utd: Lukaku, Mata, Lindgard, Martial, Rashford, Sanchez
Barca (proposed): Griezemann; Suarez; O Dembele; Couthino; Messi.
And you don't think we need better forwards / attacking players?
You can't just quote names as we seen with Sanchez.
I count two players over 30 with one struggling to settle and two others who will play out of position.
Let's just wait and see.
Did you not read my posts?
It's difficult to currently rate them as they lack chemistry at the moment. Next season should be a better indicator. Having said that, if someone like Dybala would be a available I think would be stupid not to go for him.
Personally I think Griezmann is really overrated, good for a team like Athletico but to start for Barca, probably good squad player for them
Barca are turning into PSG/City
No need we have Lingard
I assume Griezmann and Coutinho will replace Suarez and Iniesta in the starting XI.
Lukaku is not a classic #9 though, Griezmann plays well off target #9's with good hold up play, that's not Lukaku, he is best at running in behind and needs someone to feed him. We also don't want to be using a formation with a #10 at all as we need to use a midfield 3 and Griezmann has struggled off the right in a front 3 for France.
There are question marks over the Alexis buy now that it's become apparent that Mourinho has no intention of playing him on the RW, but Griezmann wasn't the answer either, it seems Mourinho just wanted a proven world class forward as he thinks Martial and Rashford are too unreliable due to their age, and he got one, it doesn't seem to have mattered about the exact position they'd play.
Suits everyone. I don' think he was keen on moving to England anyway.
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I'm not bothered, it's very school yard but that's the Caf, I just wonder when the mindless sheep and ass kissers will get their tag, I'm guessing they wont.
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