True but let's not forget Martial is 2 years older and both have had their flashes of brilliance this season.
Anthony Martial and Willian swap?
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Chelsea will have the sense not to sell in the league. He'll probably go to Madrid.
Woodward must be losing his mind if he allows this. Sell Martial abroad. Sarri gets a hold of him he will be awesome.
Do not buy Willian - get a younger version to play on the right.
Mourinho is going to load up the team with expensive old players and when the next manager comes in we're pretty fecked because we have to start all over again. Not only that, I have no faith that his usual tactics of just using experienced players will work in winning the league. City and Liverpool are already ahead of us in terms of how they set up their teams and the sort of players they're targeting. We're going backwards here.
God almighty United has money but no sense.
Do not buy Willian - get a younger version to play on the right.
Mourinho is going to load up the team with expensive old players and when the next manager comes in we're pretty fecked because we have to start all over again. Not only that, I have no faith that his usual tactics of just using experienced players will work in winning the league. City and Liverpool are already ahead of us in terms of how they set up their teams and the sort of players they're targeting. We're going backwards here.
God almighty United has money but no sense.
They are not the same type of player. People need to stop comparing goals and assists like this.
So he should keep all young players just in case they turn out good? You'd think we'd never offloaded any prior to him, never mind he's not actually sold any here yet
People saying this would be typical Mourinho, care to give any examples because he's had a long career so there must be loads where he's swapped a performing potential WC player with a 30 year old
Martial just doesn't seem like a Chelsea player, suggest media are putting 2 & 2 together and coming up with 5
He could play in Hazard’s position if Eden leaves.
Willian is a decent player but nothing special, he's not going to elevate our attack, he doesn't score many goals and he's not super creative, he works really hard and is disciplined but getting rid of a 22 year old who has scored as many PL goals in half as many PL games and has his best years ahead of him, to get a 30 year old wide man with minimal productivity makes no sense.
Alternative is we sell Martial and get a player like Neres/Pulisic, who will be benched after a few games. Willian is jose’s soldier, these type of players are important for him.
I would prefer us getting a player who will actually play the majority of games.
Buy Willian and then swap Martial for some big name in Europe. Dybala maybe?
You're right, which is why I feel so devoid of enthusiasm for the coming season personally, when I think of wingers and forwards I don't think of soldiers, but it's the reality for now, which is why I'd rather we didn't buy any more attackers or sell any this summer, just move Sanchez to the RW or keep playing Lingard there for now, just buy some fullbacks and another CM.
This should never be allowed to happen, if we need to sell Martial, then sell abroad.
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Keep Martial, throw out the troublemaker instead.
Martial can't fit in the same lineup as Hazard and Giroud/Morata.
Mourinho will always opt for a player who is already established in my opinion. He wants quick success like any other club he has been at. Martial won’t give him quick success until at least another 2 seasons.
What has come to the club that always gave opportunity to young players with flair? They're quickly losing the qualities I fell in love with the club in the first place.
Willian is too young. At only 30, he stands a chance of being around in two seasons when the manager has gone. Surley JT and Lampsy could still do a job. Swap them for Lingard and Tuanzebe?
I wouldn't be shocked if this bs is coming out from Chelsea camp, still bitter over not getting Lukaku trying to fuel the already huge speculation. The press don't need much incentive to write shit about United. It's common knowledge that we were in for William in the past. That deal makes no sense.
Well Thank feck he's not, unlike some so called fan here who got agitated by some bizarre transfer rumors.
i've said and i'll say it again if we are entertaining the idea of selling Martial it would be to non-PL clubs, and considering Barca, Real, PSG dont need him, Bayern and Juventus can't afford him, it will limits his options.
It would be a shite deal, fecking insane.
Hell fecking no. Thats a shite deal even if they pay us money + Willian.
Not interested. . The Sanchez deal was the same..
Didn't Bayern pick up Robben & Ribery at similar points in their careers? They've absolutely smashed it for them for years beyond what most would have thought.
True...If we decide to sell Martial,we need to sell him abroad....It's just too risky to sell him to a PL club...
How about no
Are you kidding me? They are 34 and 35 years old. They have both been there for more than 10 years. So no not even close to 30 years.
Willian would bring more to our team than Martial does. However he isn't young so no one will want him, just like no one wanted Matic.
Martial as bait ffs. Incredibly short sighted thinking.
Fortunately Delaney is always wrong.
Robben: currently 34, signed for Bayern when he was 25
Ribery: currently 35, signed for Bayern when he was 24
Willian will be 30 when the season starts.
Robben and Ribery are special cases. You can't expect most players to keep going like they have. Sanchez is already not as good as he used to be, due to losing some of the explosiveness that made him so dangerous.
They arent special cases. He was suggesting that Bayern signed those two close to 30 years. They were signed when they were 24 just entering their prime years. They have been so injury prone the last few years especially Ribery.
Martial under Sarri? At Chelsea? What a horrible thought.
Don't point the finger at me. It's just the reality right now. Martial has rejected a contract offer and with 2 years left on his current one, we will look to get the best out of his departure.
Attackers are difficult to get, and Mourinho loves Willian. So if Chelsea would be willing to do a deal, then it would be an obvious one for us to do.
I don't know why this is relevant, but Juventus did go for him the summer we got him.
Edit: think i misunderstood your post. Sorry!
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Its a marvel people actually think this idiocy plausible
This. Can't really do anything about when Martial isn't happy here. May as well get the best deal we can get. Listen, if we can get Dembele for Martial then I'm all for it but I doubt Barca want him. I doubt Jose wants Dembele either.
Funny you say that . Someone here made a comparison to Anelka a while back. Can't shake that since reading it. And gosh I loved that special moment Anelka had with Chelsea
I've long said Martial reminds me of Anelka but even then I still can't picture Martial at Chelsea
His cheerleaders on here too.
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