15-20m would be good deal.
Anthony Elanga | signs for Forest
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Yeah definitely
For us. The buyer would end up being very disappointed.
That’s championship football. How many players have been brilliant there but not in the PL? Even a handful of good performances in the PL and CL including knockouts makes him a more established player.
Garner never even broke into the first team
10-15 from Telles+Bailly+Williams
I doubt there's any fee for Telles and Baily. Was reported earlier we'd be happy just to flog them off the books.
That’s championship football. How many players have been brilliant there but not in the PL? Even a handful of good performances in the PL and CL including knockouts makes him a more established player.
Garner never even broke into the first team
So? The Championship is a good quality league and Garner had good performances against PL opposition in the cup that season too.
There have been loads of players to get CL cameos that go in to have naff careers, it isn’t the holy grail to have 170 minutes in it.
Point being is that Elanga has never been a key part of a team or ever sustained his position over a full season. He was rotational under RR and barely played under EtH.
I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get at least £15m for Elanga. When you look at some of the prices City and Liverpool get for young players with no PL or senior international experience, then we should be able to get a deal up to £15-25m for Elanga.
Watching him coming through the academy, his lightning pace was a clear threat when having space to drive into. And he's a decentish finisher for a wide striker cutting inside. I always worried he didn't really have the technical / dribbling ability to deal with the deep / packed defences he'd regularly face against us. But in a team where he'd often have more space to drive into then I think he could be a good signing and, in the modern climate, definitely worth around £20m.
Watching him coming through the academy, his lightning pace was a clear threat when having space to drive into. And he's a decentish finisher for a wide striker cutting inside. I always worried he didn't really have the technical / dribbling ability to deal with the deep / packed defences he'd regularly face against us. But in a team where he'd often have more space to drive into then I think he could be a good signing and, in the modern climate, definitely worth around £20m.
Don’t understand why this is even a debate. Championship or not, Garner played 4000 minutes in the season before his move to Everton. Whereas Elanga played a grand total of 700 minutes last season. Why should Everton care that Elanga once played a CL knock-out game?That’s championship football. How many players have been brilliant there but not in the PL? Even a handful of good performances in the PL and CL including knockouts makes him a more established player.
Garner never even broke into the first team
Elanga’s fee won’t be more than 15 mil including add ons. Best case we agree a sell-on clause as well.
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I think it’s important to remember that we can only get the fee other clubs are willing to pay and from other clubs where the player is willing to go.
I know people are citing City and Southampton doing a deal for that kid but that kid hasn’t played PL football yet otherwise he’d be desperately trying to stay in the PL instead of dropping down a level. There’s also the added notion that maybe City don’t really want to part with him unless the money is right.
We on the other hand want to sell, everyone knows how good he is/can be, and he probably doesn’t want to drop down a level to get regular game time, which means the clubs who can afford him
/want him are probably teams in the bottom 5.
Nottingham Forest seem to be interested in him too. This could cause a price increase. Good news.
This. We sould James Garner for 15 who had produced a lot loss and who are a worse player too. Elanga has good potential but not for this United team. I could see him shine for teams like Dortmund and RB Leipzig. I don't think he will fit in at Everton, but whoever pays the most...
25+5 with sell on fees. Otherwise feck off.
Lets not get low balled here.
Lets not get low balled here.
Theres negotiations and then there's being a tit.
The fee they bid it's solid for Elangas quality and status.
Which seems to be more than the £8-10m which people we're complaining about, almost double.
Just like Fulham are disappointed in Pereira right?
Well I don't agree. To be honest though 15-20m is about right for both. Good to see us ship deadwood to lesser teams.
They have just bought another kid, Shea something, who hasn't kicked a ball for City for £15m too. Which is ridiculous, and if there was any Arabic involvement people would be treating it suspiciously. Southampton have given City about £50m for a small handful of academy players who had barely kicked a ball in the last year, and who were seemingly not subject to any sort of bidding war. No doubt these players are talented, but the fees seem inflated.
£8m-£10m is fecking laughable when you've got City kids who have never had a sniff of first team going for £19m. This is an international player at a top level. He should be £20m minimum this day and age. He's only young as well.
I mean there's an explanation for that really.
£10m seems realistic
£15m is a bonus
£20m is smashing work from the United team involved
£15m is a bonus
£20m is smashing work from the United team involved
You must be a student of the woodward school of negotiation.
Even our fans haven't a clue how to sell.
Imagine settling for a "fair" fee.
£15-20 very fair as others have said, for both sides I think. Hes a decent young player with a good attitude and injury record. Can play on both wings and is a full international. I think he'd do well for an Everton / Forest.
To be fair, Woodward put unrealistic fees on our unwanted players meaning that no one got interested in them. Then we have them a contract to protect their values, played them for 6 matches, send them in loans when we subsidized half of the wages to ultimately release them on a free.
Which is what will happen here if we insist on a high value for Elanga (and same for others like our bizarre evaluation of our 5th choice 30 years old CB at 50m).
I'm sorry but holding out for 25 odd mil for a player of Elangas quality is one of the most daft moves one can suggest.
What you are offering is literally out of a Woodward playbook.
Almost as daft as paying 60m for a guy with one year left on his contract or 50m for a goalkeeper that was free a year ago.
But I suppose they are doing a great job right? Imagine thinking that.
Lets just accept the first bid for everyone who has a passing interest in our young players. Then people turn around and ask why we don't sell as well as city or chelsea (previously).
The reported 15-20m would be excellent considering he's been sitting on his ass for a year doing nothing. Should've probably gotten rid last summer, but thankfully it seems everything is going to work out nicely for all parties.
Where is RR when we need him? He should recommend him to RB Leipzig. And McT too who he saw as future captain.
Right so Elanga is comparable to fees for Mount and Onana. Log off, you're drunk.Almost as daft as paying 60m for a guy with one year left on his contract or 50m for a goalkeeper that was free a year ago.
But I suppose they are doing a great job right? Imagine thinking that.
Lets just accept the first bid for everyone who has a passing interest in our young players. Then people turn around and ask why we don't sell as well as city or chelsea (previously).
Bet you had to think of so many before Periera and say to yourself 'Nah, not this one'
Come on now.Imagine thinking Murtough and Arnold are doing a good job
Dearie me.
If some club actually told us they were prepared to pay more, then we would try to sell him for more.
But as things stand he hardly played for us last season despite the poor form of most of our attacking players and W fecking W was getting regular game time (not that I agreed with it, but that’s what happened).
And unlike Mount, Elanga doesn’t have previous good seasons where clubs could see 1 bad season as an exception.
Still I wouldn’t be surprised if after regular playing time with another club he gets sold again for a higher fee. But getting regular games is key.
Actually no, most of the players we sold went on to do well in the PL, I can only really think of Lingard who didn't do well
Whatever we get for him its free money.
Because Elanga is rubbish that’s why
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66188507
BBC Sport saying £15-£20 million which is a fantastic deal for us.
BBC Sport saying £15-£20 million which is a fantastic deal for us.
I am amazed you think that. I can't think of a single one of the players who has left us and made me think that we shouldn't have let him go. From a relative success perspective, can think of Lukaku, Pereira and possibly Smalling who have achieved some degree of success. Outside of that, Dan James, Pogba, Mata, Matic, Sanchez, Lingard are all who have had less than distinguished careers. Agree that most were let go post contract expiry but still wouldn't say that players we have sold do well really.
Shite players go for decent money all the time. Everton the team interested in Elanga literally payed £35m for Alex Iwobi! A player who’s just as bad if not worse than Elanga.
Who said anything about “shouldn’t have let them go”
Not being good enough for United has nothing to do with being good enough for the PL
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