I think that it's our plan, but we are not executing it well, I think that the real problem for United is the lack of talent in the youth staff. And the club needs a director football, I feel that too few people are trying to do too many things.
Another article about our failing youth set up....
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I think that it's our plan, but we are not executing it well, I think that the real problem for United is the lack of talent in the youth staff. And the club needs a director football, I feel that too few people are trying to do too many things.
La Masia makes a difference and it's no wonder City set out to reproduce a similar set up in Manchester. Truth is, I'm pretty amazed that the UK hasn't set out before to do something like it considering how much they love the sport
Sorry, but how on earth do you know that then?Do you know who's Eamon Murvey?
A bit different but Chelsea's.
Not true. Paul McGuiness is well known and respected on the youth circuit and Eamon Mulvey has been named youth coach of the year recently. I'm not sure if Tony Whelan is still with us but he was highly regarded as well.
Nigeria are cheaters they send overaged players. But my problem with what you say is that you are mixing the competitive phase and formative phase, for example the players that you see for France at youth level won't be the same players who will be great players at professional level these are two different things. Youth competitions are not a barometer of youth academies and youth selection in the academies.
In Academies you will see three type of players, the athlete, the technicians and the tacticians. The athletes will be selected sooner at international level because being physically dominant win you games at that age, but the other players aren't neglected they are just not ready to face the athletes, now sometimes you will face technicians with great physic, that's Adama Traoré, and these players win you youth competitions by themselves.
PS: I exaggerate a bit.
I know the both of them, but are they enough in quantity to develop everyone efficiently? I'm obviously guessing and my guess is that there is a lack of talent in quantity.
Edit: Or maybe it's just the absence of competitive football at that age?
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I know what you are saying, my point is just that we are being doomed by media, when there is no such thing as a worry even.
Regarding the media you are right, I still think that we could improve a thing or two but that's not panic worthy.
Totally agree ofc, you always have to evolve to stay on top. So, we can always do better in that regard
The thing is that they didn't have enough responsibilities in the past especially Murvey to really influence things.We're changing it by giving Murvey more responsibilities from what I heard.Obviously still need an academy director and shake up the coaching staffs at some age groups (which I believe we also have done at U16s level).
Thanks, for the infos.
The article is a rehash of stories written months ago with a lot of information which was factually incorrect at the time and more of which is out of date already. It has clearly just been published because it concerns United and City and they thought it would generate hits with the derby today. The idea that City have all of the best young talent from the Manchester area is a ridiculous statement given that United have Rashford, Tuanzebe, Gribbin, Williams, Gomes who are rated among the best of their age in Europe along with a lot of other local talent at all age levels. The idea that City are quietly going along with their business and don't speak to the press is another ridiculous statement given that City regularly brief the journalists and publish the results of underage games despite the games being non competitive at underage levels. There are some problems at the underage levels with United some of which have already been addressed, some of which are in the process of being addressed and some of which still need addressing but it seems that the press are jumping on something which most of them know little or nothing about because its suits their narrative of United being a failing giant while City are a club on the rise.
Isn't Carvajal a starter for Madrid? Or has Danilo benched him? Jese is starting for them, but I guess that's because Bale (and Benzema?) is injured. Alaba and Mueller for us, and Busquets for Barcelona too.
Fixed.
Maybe City are spending far more on their youth system, but at least United have a manager who wants to make use of the youth system.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...e-lingard-louis-van-gaal-west-bromwich-albion
http://www.theguardian.com/football...e-lingard-louis-van-gaal-west-bromwich-albion
Quality journalism and fact checking from Jamie Jackson using my tweet saying it was the 29th debutant without realizing I corrected myself and it was the 23rd
This dickwad is reading this forum anyway so there's a high chance he might correct himself after your post!
I like that he would rather give a chance to youngster than play a first teamer out of position.
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Bayern´s pro squad has
Gaudino (since aged 8)
Lahm (11)
Mueller (12)
Badstuber (12)
Alaba (16)