It's your own accumulative conclusion you could be perceived naive for only believing in the things you see. It goes both ways, depends on perspective but the ultimatum of my post is to respect people for their beliefs which is a distinction from highlighting their beliefs.
Angel Gomes (United confirm departure)
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It's your own accumulative conclusion you could be perceived naive for only believing in the things you see. It goes both ways, depends on perspective but the ultimatum of my post is to respect people for their beliefs which is a distinction from highlighting their beliefs.
Good luck to the lad. Had high hopes for him at United. It’s a tough one, but sometimes we underestimate just how hard it is to make that final step up to the EPL. Lots of very talented players have been unable to. Hopefully in Angel’s case, he just needs a bit more time to develop. I’m sure he’ll have a decent career, if not great. And if he reaches his potential, hopefully he’s open to a return someday.
This. Fans are quick to abuse and discard players for not being good enough (example Pereira and Lingard) & would happily ship them off, but expect absolutely loyalty from players in return.
Players have a short career and they need to look after themselves, first and foremost. No issue with him leaving, it’s a shame. Wish him luck and hopefully he reaches his potential and is open to a return. Chances are it won’t happen though - it’s extremely tough to make it as a pro, let alone become one of the very best.
Perhaps not the place, but most religious people are that way because they got into it very young, in a way that isn't true of atheists. The naivety of youth can carry into adulthood, or not. Anyway, not the place.
Vitoria De Guimarames. They have Marcus Edwards and Easah Suliman. Supposedly after Danny Loader too.
If you ever get the chance to see a video of that game you'll see that the two non-midfielders actually did a good job that day, it was the strikers misfiring that day that cost United, if the match had finished 7/8-2 nobody would have been surprised. True Story.
Just calling it as it is. Sir Bobby Charlton saw players selected before him, he didn't sulk, he trained harder, and when he got his chance, even though he was carrying an injury he took his chance, the rest, as they say, is History.
The Spanish feel the same way.
If size was irrelevant, Messi would never have been given growth hormone.
Yes but that’s not my point nor was it yours. You said the fact that he went on to play and star at Juve in midfield was irrelevant because he couldn’t play in a midfield two. However, he would have been as good an option as those in midfield as it wasn’t their natural position either. They performed well and most likely he would have. As a young player knocking on the door you dream for the days when seniors in your position are out and you think you’ll finally get your start. He saw other non-midfielders getting started ahead of him and realised he probably wasn’t as close to starring as he thought, so he correctly left the club. In hindsight he made a good choice. He left and became a starter for Juve and won a few trophies.
See my reply above about Sir Bobby Charlton.
Looks like a talented kid, but never looked physically or mentally ready for a proper go in the first team.
Best of luck to him. I think his best course of action is to get a few years experience in a less physical league, like Spain or Netherlands for example.
With his physique, I reckon he will be 24/25 before we see him hit his potential.
Best of luck to him. I think his best course of action is to get a few years experience in a less physical league, like Spain or Netherlands for example.
With his physique, I reckon he will be 24/25 before we see him hit his potential.
Pogba didn’t sulk, he acted decisively and went on to star at Juve. It’s not like he took the easy option and went to a bad team with and easy route to the first team, he moved country and became a starter in a fantastic midfield very quickly.
Yawn.
Meanwhile, back in the 'We wish you well Angel Gomes, don't be a stranger mate' thread
What part of my point that you bolded do you not agree with?
What part of Yawn do you not understand, it's been done to death. Meanwhile back in the ....
The reason people are going off topic and hounding you is because you have some terrible opinions. Threads should aim to remain on topic, but there will be points when they deviate because someone comes in and says something incredibly stupid like ‘Manchester United don’t make mistakes period’.
Behave yourself, apart from Pogba, which is a crap example which has been done to death elsewhere, name one, just ONE player that has left United that we didn't want to leave, that has gone elsewhere and pulled up trees. No, didn't think so.
Rossi, Forlan, Pique, Tevez
Didn’t we sell all of them except Tevez? Who we hadn’t the option to buy but didn’t?
Why is pogba a crap example?
As fans we obviously would like to have kept Tevez, but in terms of club decisions I’d imagine Pique was the only one there that we didn’t want to leave.
I'm sure we would have liked to keep all of those players, but sometimes moving on is best for both the player and the club and personally I always liked that we as a club looked after a players interests as well as our own. And Gomes is a similar situation despite the contract running down. Hes got too many players ahead of him and there are also rumours about Grealish and Sancho. His shot was early this season when we looked awful but it never materialized, whether that was due to how he looked in training or his non commitment over a new contract, we will never know.
Rossi just had bad luck with injuries. He would have had a good career otherwise.
We also sold Ronaldo
Angel Gomes gets more paid as a 18 year old than Charlton did as his peak. Charlton was in the army whilst playing for the United reserves because it was 70 years ago the example you're bringing up. It's not like Charlton could just go to Juventus or Bayern, that's not what the scouting system was like back then. At most he could have gone a few miles down the road.
Pique wanted to go home to Spain and we couldn't keep him. Ronaldo left for Madrid which we didn't want to see. Hughes left for Barca. Tevez denied our contract and went across town. Don't think Beckham himself or any of the fans wanted him gone. Ruud wanted to leave and kept on scoring for Madrid. Do you want any more examples?
Apologies to my Legions of fans on the forum but I will not be commenting in this thread again till United buy back Angel Gomes for £150m in 2024, as i'll be too paranoid that i'll be replying to one of the two sad saps who reported me. Sorry.
Not sure why Pogba is being mentioned so much in this thread.
Similar situation with Gomes, but Pogba was head and shoulders above Gomes in terms of development when he left, it's not even a fair comparison!
Similar situation with Gomes, but Pogba was head and shoulders above Gomes in terms of development when he left, it's not even a fair comparison!
Got a strange feeling his next club will be surprisingly good.
PSG or Barcelona standard
Not a lot of teams can spend a lot of money now. Angel Gomes is a very good free
PSG or Barcelona standard
Not a lot of teams can spend a lot of money now. Angel Gomes is a very good free
I think Ole wants runners, people who are willing to put their bodies on the line for the cause.
Something I've never seen from Gomes.
I don't actually think it's anything to do with physicality as such, Bruno is hardly a tank, neither is Mata etc, more to do with mentality and probably a talent factor as well, is it worth paying potential 25k a week, especially when he's so injury prone.
There might be a good chance of him being badly advised in picking a new club.
Reads like he wasn't offered a deal by the club, which he was. Ole also on record saying he hopes he stays. Good luck to him wherever he goes - will be interesting to see how he fares. Not too sure what else Ole could have done, to be fair. Maybe a few more cameos, but not much else.
United offered him good terms and he declined. So the club wanted to keep him but any more money on his contract at that age having done diddly squat and we’d be back to players stealing a living from the club.
Think it’s extraordinary he’s left with no next move lined up, seems like he’s been caught in an unexpected situation here.
I would genuinely be surprised if any of those clubs will have him on their radar. I can't even imagine the top 4 clubs in the portuguese league will want him. He's 20 in a month and a half with next to no first team experience and I seriously doubt his next club will be a Champions League side, nevermind a club the likes of PSG or Barça. What makes you believe he can attract those sort of clubs? - honestly curious.
Yeah, and he wasn't getting into the team with Rio and Vidic at their best still but he was good enough to get into most other clubs as a starter as we saw with Barca.
I think so too. If he did turn down the wages he turned down here, he must have an offer for at least comparable which leaves a select few. PSG might not be too bad for him because they can play him without risking too much with the gulf in class they have with the rest of the league.
I guess for him even if goes somewhere like Barcelona he should still be able to get a decent deal afterwards even if he barely plays.
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