I think Mourinho isn't fit to lace Ole's boots when it comes to judging youngsters. He might be a more decorated manager (for now) but judging youth players was never his specialty.
Based on what? Not saying that it's Mou's specialty, or that Ole is bad at it. Just that we don't really know, so it's odd saying that. All I'm saying is that both Mou and Fergie, well respected and knowledgable, experienced managers, have been wrong. So wouldn't really be shocking if Ole got it wrong.
Like Pogba showed Fergie? Or De Bruyne or Salah showed Mourinho? Managers make mistakes, and in that category, Ole is not even fit to lace Mourinho's or Ferguson's boots when it comes to judgment, so a bit surprising all think that Ole is some kind of mastermind who never gets it wrong. Not saying that Gomes would be a star, but I find it weird that he didn't get a real chance. Ole might be right, he might be wrong. Time will tell.
That "if he was good enough he would have played" is the silliest excuse I have heard. Managers judge poorly from time to time. They're not Gods.
Terrible take.Hasn't proven he's worth the trouble.
Hope he fails miserably at whatever club he ends up at, to prove a point to the other youngsters
It's a shame humans think this way sometimes.Hasn't proven he's worth the trouble.
Hope he fails miserably at whatever club he ends up at, to prove a point to the other youngsters
What a sad and pathetic person you are.Hasn't proven he's worth the trouble.
Hope he fails miserably at whatever club he ends up at, to prove a point to the other youngsters
Fecking hellHasn't proven he's worth the trouble.
Hope he fails miserably at whatever club he ends up at, to prove a point to the other youngsters
Why laugh? Can't believe I'm wasting my daily posts on you with this topic but ok, you don't even have to look at Messi to see how short players can flourish, just look at possibly our greatest midfielder of all time? Scholes was 5'6 ffs & absolutely bossed the midfield.
Maradona 5'5,
Messi 5'7,
Xavi another midfielder at 5'7,
Garrincha another attacker at 5'7,
Alexis Sanchez who everyone on here was thirsty for at one point is 5'6,
Ribery 5'7,
Wesley Sneijder 5'7,
Lahm 5'7,
So many more like Mata, Tevez, Iniesta, Pedro.. players from all over the world, including the premier league, from all different positions that have been superstars despite being small.
It's about time this archaic view of "too short, won't be good" died. Just accept we lost a player with a lot of potential and it may or may not come back to haunt us. I'm not guaranteeing Gomes will be a superstar, but to simply rule out the possibility based on height? Moronic.
Edit: Feel stupid leaving out 5'6 Kante. Ok, now I'm actually done.
One manager maybe, but when it's multiple managers you have to wonder.That "if he was good enough he would have played" is the silliest excuse I have heard. Managers judge poorly from time to time. They're not Gods.
Scholes was 5ft 7 what a wasted poor quality postWhy laugh? Can't believe I'm wasting my daily posts on you with this topic but ok, you don't even have to look at Messi to see how short players can flourish, just look at possibly our greatest midfielder of all time? Scholes was 5'6 ffs & absolutely bossed the midfield.
Maradona 5'5,
Messi 5'7,
Xavi another midfielder at 5'7,
Garrincha another attacker at 5'7,
Alexis Sanchez who everyone on here was thirsty for at one point is 5'6,
Ribery 5'7,
Wesley Sneijder 5'7,
Lahm 5'7,
So many more like Mata, Tevez, Iniesta, Pedro.. players from all over the world, including the premier league, from all different positions that have been superstars despite being small.
It's about time this archaic view of "too short, won't be good" died. Just accept we lost a player with a lot of potential and it may or may not come back to haunt us. I'm not guaranteeing Gomes will be a superstar, but to simply rule out the possibility based on height? Moronic.
Edit: Feel stupid leaving out 5'6 Kante. Ok, now I'm actually done.
With all due respect, Gomes is even shorter than everyone on the list you gave, by 2 or 3 inches.Why laugh? Can't believe I'm wasting my daily posts on you with this topic but ok, you don't even have to look at Messi to see how short players can flourish, just look at possibly our greatest midfielder of all time? Scholes was 5'6 ffs & absolutely bossed the midfield.
Maradona 5'5,
Messi 5'7,
Xavi another midfielder at 5'7,
Garrincha another attacker at 5'7,
Alexis Sanchez who everyone on here was thirsty for at one point is 5'6,
Ribery 5'7,
Wesley Sneijder 5'7,
Lahm 5'7,
So many more like Mata, Tevez, Iniesta, Pedro.. players from all over the world, including the premier league, from all different positions that have been superstars despite being small.
It's about time this archaic view of "too short, won't be good" died. Just accept we lost a player with a lot of potential and it may or may not come back to haunt us. I'm not guaranteeing Gomes will be a superstar, but to simply rule out the possibility based on height? Moronic.
Edit: Feel stupid leaving out 5'6 Kante. Ok, now I'm actually done.
Not only small but also slight. He should go to Germany to a midtable team like Leverkusen..
Ole was dishing out plenty of games to youngsters. If Gomes wasn’t getting many appearances in the first team, there was probably a reason for it. This is ignoring the fact that he hadn’t looked overly impressive when he did get a chance.
And Mourinho has a good track record with youth does he?
It’s clear he wasn’t playing in the second half of the season because of contract issues
This. I remember Chong getting game time when he was in a similar contract negotiations. I guess people are coming up with their own narratives.Odd how Chong was having same issues and got game time. Plus he was injured quite a few times when he probably would have played, as he was on MUTV interviews leading up to certain games where he was looking forward to playing. But please feel free to continue with your train of thought, as I don't believe it has any basis.
Most likely he was left out because he is poorer than lingard?Surely towards the end, when it was clear to everyone that Lingard and Pereira's minutes should've been given to Gomes, he was left out because his refusal to sign a contract?
Most likely he was left out because he is poorer than lingard?
There are different stages to poor. Gomes wasn't poor in the same way Chong was. Gomes was quiet, but it's not like he was messing things up. Chong was poor.Guys are forgetting gomez and chong were given a start against Astana (when we won 1-0). Astana was relatively poor team compare to even bottom 10 clubs in PL, and against them both struggled. I still remember the game. Couldn't create, couldn't dominate. Just some moment of brilliance here and there doesn't cut it out. Both were among lowest rated players. And guess who replaced both? Mata and Lingard. And suddenly we started playing much better. Now if both mata and lingard can't guarantee a place on bench, where that leaves gomez?
To be honest I have not watched him as youth much but in his senior appearance he seemed to me more like a 5 yards pass merchant.There are different stages to poor. Gomes wasn't poor in the same way Chong was. Gomes was quiet, but it's not like he was messing things up. Chong was poor.
Gomes has largely been like that in all his appearances. He's never really suffered from poor touches, boneheaded plays, playing immature, etc...
Surely a player can get more than 1 chance to shine given that a certain player called Lingard who has been shite for a couple of years keeps getting opportunities?Guys are forgetting gomez and chong were given a start against Astana (when we won 1-0). Astana was relatively poor team compare to even bottom 10 clubs in PL, and against them both struggled. I still remember the game. Couldn't create, couldn't dominate. Just some moment of brilliance here and there doesn't cut it out. Both were among lowest rated players. And guess who replaced both? Mata and Lingard. And suddenly we started playing much better. Now if both mata and lingard can't guarantee a place on bench, where that leaves gomez?
Imagine poor Messi, he’s both5'3" is the new 30 years old
Agree to that. Don't know how he fairs in training but yeh more chances, or at least 10-15 mins appearances wouldn't have hurt.Surely a player can get more than 1 chance to shine given that a certain player called Lingard who has been shite for a couple of years keeps getting opportunities?
Imagine poor Messi, he’s both
What a sad and pathetic person you are.
People are questioning his mentality based on absolutely no evidence.I suspect he’ll go down the Januzaj route. Bags of talent but not the mentality. He obviously also has the physical side to overcome.
People are questioning his mentality based on absolutely no evidence.
Terrible take.
I hope he succeeds.
I have been saying for six months, if he was my kid brother, I would be telling him to leave. If the manager won't pick him ahead of the likes of Lingard and co, he hasn't got a prayer about playing.It's out of fear. People are so terrified that he'll go and do well elsewhere that they'll go to lengths to discredit his character/talent.
Terrible take.
I hope he succeeds.