Could've done with him away to spurs and stoke!
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Could've done with him away to spurs and stoke!
Not a heavy injury but we didn't want to take a risk.
Van Gaal on mutv.
Van Gaal on mutv.
He'll be back for Spurs.
I love the lad and would have really liked to see him start.
But during the game I was wondering... where would he have started today? Mata looked good today.
But during the game I was wondering... where would he have started today? Mata looked good today.
"His pelvis is not in right relationship with his leg."
The... what?
The... what?
He's Angel Di Maria. He basically picks himself when fit. One of RVP or Falcao can drop out.
Di Maria has been selected in the L'Equipe team of 2014.
where does he start?
he starts as pick number 1 alongside Rooney and DeGea then 8 others form around him.
was he in the squad that travelled to spurs?
How long will he be out for? Anyone knows?
I think the lack of info coming out of the club indicates no one knows. Pelvis injury could be lengthy.
Most created clear cut chances so far in Europe's league. 24, one more than Messi who came in second.
Averaging 2 times more clear cut chances created per game than Messi isn't bad. According to WhoScored's half season analysis.
Averaging 2 times more clear cut chances created per game than Messi isn't bad. According to WhoScored's half season analysis.
Hopefully he'll be fit for the Southampton game to start. Will probably get subbed on against Yeovil to get a run out. We've missed him in terms of our play, not so much results though we probably would've turned at least one of the 3 drawn games into wins had he been fit.
Can't wait for him to hit form again in the middle of the park for us. He looked on another level for a good few weeks there early in the season.
He'll come back and we'll lose Falcao, Herrera and Smalling again. It's annoying because it's true.
any hope he'll be on the bench at least on sunday?
I almost hope not...our record signing on a bumpy pitch against a bunch of over excited League One hopefuls looking to crunch tackles in from minute one?
Think I'd rather he was brought back for Saints at home.
Think I'd rather he was brought back for Saints at home.
Very surprising tbf. Better than Fabregas? Makes you think, how many clear cut chances had Van Persie missed earlier this season?
EDIT: oh, it's for the whole 2014. Not surprising at all then
Where do you guys think we should play him long-term?
I'm thinking once we get a little more luck with injuries, and van Gaal recruits a few more of his own troops (meaning he can play how he wants) we will see di Maria move from midfield up into the front 3.
I doubt it's a secret any more that he wants Strootman, so I think next season a midfield 3 of Strootman, Blind, Herrera and a front 3 of Rooney, di Maria, Falcao.
Thoughts?
I'm thinking once we get a little more luck with injuries, and van Gaal recruits a few more of his own troops (meaning he can play how he wants) we will see di Maria move from midfield up into the front 3.
I doubt it's a secret any more that he wants Strootman, so I think next season a midfield 3 of Strootman, Blind, Herrera and a front 3 of Rooney, di Maria, Falcao.
Thoughts?
From what I've seen I reckon you're probably going to be wrong about quite a few of those. Strootman remains to be seen, obviously, but I think LVG really rates Carrick so as long as he doesn't drop off I can see Blind in and out of the team. I'm not convinced he really rates Herrera and I expect to see Rooney in there as LVG doesn't seem to fancy him as a striker. It'll probably be ADM and A N other wide of RVP.
Next season though Carrick will be 34, RvP will be 32, Rooney 30, so I doubt all 3 will be starting. Carrick probably, though I can see him being rotated with Blind but both getting more then enough games, Rooney will obviously still be fine to play week in, week out, but with Van Persie I'm not sure. Think he might be just a squad player next year. If we do complete the Falcao deal then he'd be the lone striker I'd guess with Rooney and Di Maria drifting behind him, though maybe Rooney will be the lone striker as well, with Mata and Di Maria drifting. None of them are particularly suited to being stuck on the wing, both Di Maria and Rooney and even Mata are better given free roles to roam I think. I do think he rates Herrera as well, just sometimes we're too lightweight in midfield or don't have the right balance with him and Mata in front of Blind or something. Put Strootman and Carrick or Blind alongside him and I think he'd excel.
Something like between these 2 would be might guess:
Rooney
Di Maria Mata
Strootman Carrick/Blind Herrera
or Di Maria Mata
Strootman Carrick/Blind Herrera
Falcao
Di Maria Rooney
Strootman Carrick/Blind Herrera
Di Maria Rooney
Strootman Carrick/Blind Herrera
Given he played for most of the year in 2014, do you think we're covering up a Christmas break here?
He clearly strained his hamstring so is it a possibility that we have granted him a rested phase of rehabilitation through muscular conditioning and strengthening treatments? My only thinking is that a pelvic injury or misalignment or whatever story we've fed the press lately would obviously have been detected in the medical before the transfer. Therefore it feels like we've just covered it up with a generic injury without any great detail or explanation of course.
Ferguson gave Ronaldo little breaks here and there before too. It's not an unknown approach from us. Especially with non-acclimatised players of this elite quality.
He clearly strained his hamstring so is it a possibility that we have granted him a rested phase of rehabilitation through muscular conditioning and strengthening treatments? My only thinking is that a pelvic injury or misalignment or whatever story we've fed the press lately would obviously have been detected in the medical before the transfer. Therefore it feels like we've just covered it up with a generic injury without any great detail or explanation of course.
Ferguson gave Ronaldo little breaks here and there before too. It's not an unknown approach from us. Especially with non-acclimatised players of this elite quality.
I'm actually impressed on how we've coped without him but it's still clear we're missing his drive and creativity on the pitch.
Yeah I think it's perfectly feasible. It wouldn't be good PR for our biggest signing ever to take Christmas off, despite the fact it should revitalise him for a big second half of the season.
He's our best player. Play him in his best position, and don't waste him out wide.
This. I want him as involved in the build up as possible.
One thing I haven't liked is his selfishness at times so far. It's like the opposite of the selfless player we saw at madrid. Maybe were trying to have him as more of a goal threat but like madrid I think we have enough of those. What we need from him is exactly what he did for madrid. Tireless running and excellent attacking midfield play. Which he was doing till he got injured for most parts, with an extra doze of aforementioned selfishness.
I did think this also as the reason LVG gave was more confusing then anything else. If it is the case then LVG I feel has made a good decision as ADM is our best player and we need to keep him wrapped in cotton wool! You never know we might be going for a title charge....
Yes, but also he will naturally go wide and cross because thats what he likes to do. So whether you play him there or not, he'll end up there at times
That's fine, but when he's been played wide for us he's stayed wide and it's resulted in poorer performances by him.
@Pexbo @Will Singh glad you both agree and I'm not alone in that theory.
While Falcao obviously missed a large chunk of the season, he needs to prove his fitness. I also think the same can theory can be applied to Herrera and Rojo too.
Ander obviously had the rib injury but the exclusions from the bench over this period were notable as it reduced our options.
Rojo came back and then has again had similar quiet periods however his situation is much closer aligned to ADM as he is the only one of the new signings to play the entire World Cup also, not unrealistic for him to have been a part of 80+ games (arguably more but there were suspensions at Sporting) in 2014.
While Falcao obviously missed a large chunk of the season, he needs to prove his fitness. I also think the same can theory can be applied to Herrera and Rojo too.
Ander obviously had the rib injury but the exclusions from the bench over this period were notable as it reduced our options.
Rojo came back and then has again had similar quiet periods however his situation is much closer aligned to ADM as he is the only one of the new signings to play the entire World Cup also, not unrealistic for him to have been a part of 80+ games (arguably more but there were suspensions at Sporting) in 2014.
Yes, and its harder to mark him when he's gone wide from a different position because you already have to mark the wideman who is supposed to be out there. So you get easy 2vs1s or 3 if the fullback is there too
Pelvic misalignment can occur at any time. If his body has started breaking down because of the long year he has had it wouldn't surprise me if things like that start going. Not that I completely disagree that he could be giving him a rest.
If we really were just giving him time off there would have been no reason to have him on the bench for the Villa game. Why give him 20 random minutes, claim he's back fit and then lie again saying he's injured himself?
I don't know if this is the right game to bring him back. I don't think Yeovil are a dirty team or anything, but he'd be a massive target.
Keep his fitness levels up while still resting him?
If he's being given a break then say it. There's no need for cloak and daggers. When Fergie gave Ronaldo time off he didn't invent fake injuries to fool the fans. Van Gaal doesn't strike me as the type of person who worries what people would think of him if he gave a player some time off.
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