J-Stander
Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
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He sounds like a bit of a knob head. Needs to pick up his game the little noodle feck.
It's a myth as long as players win games for us, nothing else matters. It's also a paradox because at United, we always always had this tradition/quality unlike that of city and Chelsea. Passion for the club and knowing they are playing in one of the best club in the world give them that extra edge to win in close games and to come back in injury times (the "come back king" rings any bell?)
It's almost an insult to have players openly saying things like this and PSG? Christ! I don't recall any United player past and present speaking about their future at United in such contempt! Sir Alex would never ever let that happen. LvG must do something to keep players' confidence in the club. Sigh
It's a myth as long as players win games for us, nothing else matters. It's also a paradox because at United, we always always had this tradition/quality unlike that of city and Chelsea.
I'm sure many will not like this:
I'm not sure people need to be having hissy fits over that interview. He and his wife have said numerous times that he's happy here. I don't know why he was being interviewed on French TV but it simply seemed as if he was just trying to be diplomatic, not looking to force an exit.
To think EVERY player signing for us (especially foreigners) has a passion for the club is another myth! In fact, it is naive to think that way. My point was how United has now let players say out loud like that, and LvG is one reason this happened.He's on a long-term deal and if he gets sold for a high fee maybe 3-4 years down the road, I won't really mind. Anyways, he only came to us after Madrid purchased Rodriguez, don't really think he has passion for our club besides wanting to win and gain honours.
IS it not fair to describe Chelsea as the club who has first started to be spending obscene money to buy players and managers since Abramovich's purchase of the club?Care to explain this part?
IS it not fair to describe Chelsea as the club who has first started to be spending obscene money to buy players and managers since Abramovich's purchase of the club?
My point still stands, because in comparison (at least during SAF era) we had players who are more passionate than Chelsea.Firstly, United started spending obscene amounts to buy players like Rio, Veron, Rooney, etc.
Secondly, this was not what was said above. What you said is that Chelsea players play for money and not for passion for the club.
My point still stands, because in comparison (at least during SAF era) we had players who are more passionate than Chelsea.
I truly believe that if United there and then offered these players more monies to play under SAF at United, they would all have switched some point or another in a heart beat.So you are telling me that players like Terry, Carvalho, Lampard, Drogba, Cech, Essein, Ballack, etc played for Chelsea for all those years without passion?
I truly believe that if United there and then offered these players more monies to play under SAF at United, they would all have switched some point or another in a heart beat.
But you can't say it about our players the other way round
You can never be too sure at this pointHang on... is ADM not injured?
This is great news!
I saw his thread had been bumped and just assumed...
It's hardly surprising, do people really think we can keep hold of players like Di Maria if we stay out of the champions league? A couple of years maybe, but in order to have the best players you have to be one of the best teams, simple as. We'll be fine though, seems like a nothing interview.
That's what I mean, one of the best teams as in competing and winning trophies. Otherwise the best players will look to go to a club where they will be winning trophies.Being just one of the best teams wouldn't be enough for a lot of the best players either though and many will start getting itchy feet if they aren't doing laps of a pitch parading a big trophy at the end of the season and Di Maria strikes me as one of these lads so it'll probably take more than qualifying for champions leagues when it comes to holding onto him. Not an interview I'd be taking with a pinch of salt.
I don't dispute that. But overestimating or not, it doesn't negate my statement about city and Chelsea. Also bearing in mind some of those loyalty were towards SAF and since his retirement, those loyalty has become shaky. I feel dreaded to think this "loyalty" thing is gradually leaving us, and it will be naive to think LvG can even replicate a tiny fraction of SAF's charisma and winning mentality that have retained confidence and loyalty from players all these years.You are overestimating our players loyalty, United pay very well and was a very successful club under SAF. They were no reasons for them to go anywhere.
Not surprising and it's better to be honest. Atleast it was clear to me while the transfer unfolded that he indeed wanted Psg at the beginning for whatever reason and it's perfectly normal. But even in this interview he does mention the perseverance of United actually made him choose us. I don't see much wrong really, he is not a united fan like you and I who dreamt of only playing here. We are also not giving him European football which a player like him deserves. He is a smashing player and we should get the best out of him for however long he stays. When he moves, he moves. Things change fast in modern football, a year or two down the line Adm could completely be a united through and through or looking to change clubs. But, it's hardly out of the ordinary.
Well said!!!Should be fined for these comments, why are footballers so thick. I'm not going to pretend I thought he would be loyal but 3 months in and he whoring himself to PSG already...
Shut the feck up and practice your corners because they are absolutely toss.
He has been here for 3 months for godsake.
Showing absolutely no class imo.
He has been here for 3 months for godsake.
Showing absolutely no class imo.