Marcosdeto
Guess who's back?
of courseSo we can hold you accountable if anything happens to our Angel?
of courseSo we can hold you accountable if anything happens to our Angel?
I'll hold you to thatof course
I never brought up the argument of signing a CB over Di Maria as it would have been a valid opinion. I brought up that people didn't want to sign Di Maria because he was "similar to Nani" in levels of ability and consistency which is utter nonsense. So you're just wrong in the claim that people didn't want us to sign him because of his ability or consistency, plenty of posters felt that way.
Di Maria has been leagues above Nani for years now, you'd need to go back 3/4 seasons to find a time when Nani would be considered better or in his class.
You need to find posts to back up that claim of yours. Di Maria and Nani were on a similar level till 2-3 seasons back. Unfortunately for Nani he didn't kick on.
2 seasons ago Nani made 11 appearances so I'd doubt it. 3 seasons ago was his last decent showing for United but bringing up performances from 3 years ago is fairly laughable. Pogba and Cleverly were performing at the same level 3 seasons ago so we shouldn't sign Pogba. Good logic.
Is comprehension difficult for you? 2011-12 Nani was at par with di Maria of that season. Following two seasons Nani had suffered from a lot of injuries and hardly had a real run of games. He has been very inconsistent as well. Di Maria, until last season, was like he always was. A brilliant winger on his day who could also get things horribly wrong and was inconsistent. Last season he became part of the midfield 3 and was allowed to roam onto the wings. That is when he really kicked on to a whole new level. Now no one is claiming di Maria and Nani are on the same levels anymore. And I don't remember anyone using that logic to somehow take away the importance of this signing when it was made. People wanted a Vidal/Benatia type player over di Maria and thus were not sure if he is what we need irrespective of his brilliant talent.
As I asked you earlier which you conveniently missed in my post while quoting, you should quote posts from this year from posters in the main forum who claim that Nani is on par with di Maria and that is the reason why we should not go for him. As of now, all this talk of how other people were against his signing based on the above reason while you were all for it is based on nothing.
No but comprehension must be difficult for you. My original quote which you replied to was that multiple posters didn't want to sign Di Maria as he was "inconsistent like Nani" yet you've have to shift the argument to were you're now comparing performances between the two from 2 seasons ago which had no relevance and is such a laughable argument it doesn't need to be discussed. Nani has not any any serious injuries that would cause him to play only about 10 times a season for years and you're horribly wrong about Di Maria's past since he played in a CM diamond at Benfica along with Ramires, CM isn't a new position to him.
I also said I have no issues with people who would have prioritised a signing like Vidal/Benatia over Di Maria, that's a perfectly understandable position but my argument was specifically aimed at the people who used Nani or other inconsistent wingers as examples for not signing him.
I haven't conveniently missed anything actually the opinion that we shouldn't sign him because of his inconsistency and comparisons to Nani were in such volume it's hardly a myth or something I'm making up. I don't know how to access the old transfer forum threads and if I did I wouldn't go looking through hundreds of pages to see which posters made the statements and hold them accountable. I'd wager if you looked at that thread on the day of the Argentina/Switzerland game you'd see plenty of posters that mirror what I've claimed.
Again going off on a tangent, aren't you? I clearly said that Nani's best levels were close to what di Maria achieved prior to last season when he played primarily as a winger. Re Nani's injuries, I guess you need to check it out yourself. He was injured for most of season before last and also missed a major part of last season because of that. If you can't remember that, it's your issue.
Also, I am going off the thread dedicated to di Maria where posters had issues with the position we are buying for and not the personnel. Match day threads are hardly a good one to go off. They are mostly written in the heat of the moment.
Yup. Solid first half, but both he and Argentina seemed to lose impetus in the second half. Messi had a bit of a stinker, trying too much and missing a penalty. Di Maria had a few pop-shots and nice dribbles, but all in all it was pretty meh.Anyway did he play vs Brasil?
I'm also going off the thread dedicated to Di Maria in the summer, I was after all the one who started it.
You can keep repeating that 3 seasons ago Nani and Di Maria were on the same level as if it had some merit all you like, it doesn't become less ridiculous. 3 seasons ago Cleverly was ahead of Pogba. 3 seasons ago Suarez only scored 11 goals in a league campaign and dempsey was the highest scoring midfielder in the league. 3 seasons ago the Chelsea side that won the Champions league was Cech-Bosingwa-luiz-cahill-bertrand-mikel-cole-lampard-mata-kalou drogba. 1 player from that group now starts for them.
Sill can't believe he's our player, he along makes me so excited to see each of our game, he looks a level above the BPL at times. Messi and Ronaldo of course GOATs and probably the best goal scorers ever but they're not as exciting as Di Maria for me, maybe 2009-2011 Messi and 2006-2009 Ronaldo were as exciting.
Bit OTT don't you think?
They play Hong Kong on Tuesday.Has he got another game with Argentina before he's back in Manchester? Apologies for my ignorance!
They play Hong Kong on Tuesday.
If there's one aspect of his game I'd like to see him emphasize, however, is encouraging possession play instead of pushing straight for the goal all the time.
Rooney has only been sent off once for United. Di Maria's directness, and pace is what makes him the stand out player in the team.One can't overstate the impact Di Maria has had on the club so far. Pure genius and joy. If there's one aspect of his game I'd like to see him emphasize, however, is encouraging possession play instead of pushing straight for the goal all the time. He's the de facto leader of our starting XI (Rooney is always a heartbeat away from a red card and RvP is in decline) and Di Maria can be the player who sets the pace of the game for us.
Agreed, and it's best utilised from a central left position, not behind a striker where his movement is restricted and he's forced to play with his back to goal, at a slower tempo, or out on the wing with limited autonomy. It's quite clear why he completely evolved as a player last season playing this role for Madrid.Rooney has only been sent off once for United. Di Maria's directness, and pace is what makes him the stand out player in the team.
Our style under Van Gaal is clearly a more patient and possession oriented approach, until it gets to Di Maria. He's that player for us who injects the directness and pace, which all possession teams need. Bayern have someone like Robben or Ribery, Barca have Messi and Neymar, etc. Now we have Di Maria and he's the main creator, the player we look at to always make things happen rather then just play a possession game like everyone else.One can't overstate the impact Di Maria has had on the club so far. Pure genius and joy. If there's one aspect of his game I'd like to see him emphasize, however, is encouraging possession play instead of pushing straight for the goal all the time. He's the de facto leader of our starting XI (Rooney is always a heartbeat away from a red card and RvP is in decline) and Di Maria can be the player who sets the pace of the game for us.
We also have Herrera for this. Every time he gets the ball, it's like a shot of caffeine, everything just increases in tempo for a few minutes. Di Maria takes it to overdrive, obviously.Our style under Van Gaal is clearly a more patient and possession oriented approach, until it gets to Di Maria. He's that player for us who injects the directness and pace, which all possession teams need. Bayern have someone like Robben or Ribery, Barca have Messi and Neymar, etc. Now we have Di Maria and he's the main creator, the player we look at to always make things happen rather then just play a possession game like everyone else.
Our style under Van Gaal is clearly a more patient and possession oriented approach, until it gets to Di Maria. He's that player for us who injects the directness and pace, which all possession teams need. Bayern have someone like Robben or Ribery, Barca have Messi and Neymar, etc. Now we have Di Maria and he's the main creator, the player we look at to always make things happen rather then just play a possession game like everyone else.
Our style under Van Gaal is clearly a more patient and possession oriented approach, until it gets to Di Maria. He's that player for us who injects the directness and pace, which all possession teams need. Bayern have someone like Robben or Ribery, Barca have Messi and Neymar, etc. Now we have Di Maria and he's the main creator, the player we look at to always make things happen rather then just play a possession game like everyone else.
You're right and I think LvG said it himself when we signed him. Something like - we have bought him to increase the speed of our game.Our style under Van Gaal is clearly a more patient and possession oriented approach, until it gets to Di Maria. He's that player for us who injects the directness and pace, which all possession teams need. Bayern have someone like Robben or Ribery, Barca have Messi and Neymar, etc. Now we have Di Maria and he's the main creator, the player we look at to always make things happen rather then just play a possession game like everyone else.
How much did he play against hongkong?
Just a tad longer than 15 minutes at the end.
Thanks!Just a tad longer than 15 minutes at the end.
Our style under Van Gaal is clearly a more patient and possession oriented approach, until it gets to Di Maria. He's that player for us who injects the directness and pace, which all possession teams need. Bayern have someone like Robben or Ribery, Barca have Messi and Neymar, etc. Now we have Di Maria and he's the main creator, the player we look at to always make things happen rather then just play a possession game like everyone else.
Like His goal against Everton?It was basically a training game for them so he barely had anything to do.
Really needs to learn to use his right foot though.
It was basically a training game for them so he barely had anything to do.
Really needs to learn to use his right foot though.
Like His goal against Everton?