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2014-15 Performances


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5.7 Season Average Rating
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32
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4
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I didn't mean the result doesn't matter, obviously. I meant whether it's Young or AdM on the left should not matter as to the result.

Yeah, depends on LVG's plan tbh, based on the Spurs game we are better off with Young.
 
Was under the impression we stopped a while ago, the only thing keeping you in the argument was his 12 assists which don't really tell the whole story, but hey when we signed him for £60 million to do nothing other than assist i guess we should all be happy and hail him as one of the great players this season.

You really do like to spout rubbish? I mentioned his assists once, maybe twice. I don't hail him as a king. I appreciate his contributions whilst also considering the problems he's had to face, during his time here.
 
on the contrary, his play is a very good reason to leave him out.

lol , right. some players take time some don't. some never settle and some play great from the first kick off. his early games were his best , far from settling he's gone backwards. ruud just scored goals from the get go. JSV best games were early on. which will this guy be?
 
lol , right. some players take time some don't. some never settle and some play great from the first kick off. his early games were his best , far from settling he's gone backwards. ruud just scored goals from the get go. JSV best games were early on. which will this guy be?
Even if he 'settles', so to speak, what suggests he'll actually be all that consistent, and wont still have people just as frustrated?
Wasn't he really inconsistent/frustrating until last season? Maybe last season was the outlier.

How good should we actually expect a 'settled' Di Maria to be?
 
Even if he 'settles', so to speak, what suggests he'll actually be all that consistent, and wont still have people just as frustrated?
Wasn't he really inconsistent/frustrating until last season? Maybe last season was the outlier.

That's the big worry. Not all that long ago you'd get half the people on here laughing in your face if you suggested a straight swap with Nani.

One season later and we're breaking the English transfer to sign him, with the consensus being we've done a great bit of business. Have to say, I would struggle to think of many other playes whose stock rose so much, so quickly, at a similar age and didn't turn out to be having a freak season they never repeated again.
 
That's the big worry. Not all that long ago you'd get half the people on here laughing in your face if you suggested a straight swap with Nani.

One season later and we're breaking the English transfer to sign him, with the consensus being we've done a great bit of business. Have to say, I would struggle to think of many other playes whose stock rose so much, so quickly, at a similar age and didn't turn out to be having a freak season they never repeated again.
:lol: So true.
We'll see how it goes with him, I guess. I wont be surprised if next season (assuming he's still here) it's still a case of one 8/10, followed by a 6/10, followed by a 4/10.. rinse repeat.

By the sounds of it, what you can expect from Di Maria, even at his best, is quite a lot of frustration, quite a few misplaced passes, but a moment of magic via an assist or two. Last year at Madrid seems to have involved this specialist role, and maybe a degree of playing for a pay-rise.
I'm guessing what we're now seeing is closer to the usual Di Maria who, as you say, wasn't considered any better than Nani 18 (?) months ago.
 
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We should use some of the adidas money to build a dome around Old Trafford. Keep the stadium warm with an artificial sun, which should keep our warm weather lovers content.

Once again the damn train line behind the south stand would get in our way :mad:
 
I re-watched the match and I wish I could change my rating for di Maria. He really was awful apart from the assist. Just gave the ball away constantly.
 
ADM's problem was not that he didn't take care of the ball by playing the safe passes, it seemed to make the wrong choices on a few occasions in attacking and that I put down to him just wanting too desperate to make things happen. I think we are going to see the best of him very soon with the whole team playing well, he'll be a little more patient when needed because he can be, he won't need to be the one does everything.

This is what I noticed as well. di Maria was frequently a threat on our left side whenever he received the ball on the break, but his decision-making let us down so many times. Even then, he caused several problems for Liverpool's right side with his dribbling and adventurousness, but his poor decision-making meant that he couldn't be as dangerous as he could have been. Even then, he got a good assist and played a sweet pass for Blind to win the penalty.

He seems to be trying too hard at the moment. He just needs to relax and not worry too much about trying to put in a perfect performance. If he can focus more on his own game, I'm sure that he can get back to his best.
 
This is what I noticed as well. di Maria was frequently a threat on our left side whenever he received the ball on the break, but his decision-making let us down so many times. Even then, he caused several problems for Liverpool's right side with his dribbling and adventurousness, but his poor decision-making meant that he couldn't be as dangerous as he could have been. Even then, he got a good assist and played a sweet pass for Blind to win the penalty.

He seems to be trying too hard at the moment. He just needs to relax and not worry too much about trying to put in a perfect performance. If he can focus more on his own game, I'm sure that he can get back to his best.
He helped us bringing the ball out of our own box and make sure Liverpool couldnt press all the time. He wasnt very accurate with his passing or decision making, but still, he was not as bad as some make out. 3 good passes which should have or should have led to 3 goals
 
He helped us bringing the ball out of our own box and make sure Liverpool couldnt press all the time. He wasnt very accurate with his passing or decision making, but still, he was not as bad as some make out. 3 good passes which should have or should have led to 3 goals

For sure, he was still not as bad as many are making him out to be, but I just thought that, if he was more reliable and better in the decisions he made in the final third, we'd have made more of the 1-man advantage than we did in the second half.
 
I honestly think he's going to be one of the best players in the league next season.
 
Duncan Castles has written an article saying he wants out and has instructed Mendes to get him a move, LvG is happy for it but Woody not so much.

Quite clearly gone in my opinion, doesn't look arsed and think it's only a matter of time before the PSG links spring up again - obviously his 1st choice but FFP screwed it up last summer.

Still think we will get good money for him, or at least dibs on one of their players - weren't we linked with Marquinhos? Maybe Lucaus or Zlatan :drool:

Edit: link http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...ut-prompts-di-maria-to-seek-summer-manchester
 
Duncan Castles has written an article saying he wants out and has instructed Mendes to get him a move, LvG is happy for it but Woody not so much.

Quite clearly gone in my opinion, doesn't look arsed and think it's only a matter of time before the PSG links spring up again - obviously his 1st choice but FFP screwed it up last summer.

Still think we will get good money for him, or at least dibs on one of their players - weren't we linked with Marquinhos? Maybe Lucaus or Zlatan :drool:

Edit: link http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...ut-prompts-di-maria-to-seek-summer-manchester
Quite clearly gone based on a Duncan Castles goal.com report :lol::lol: You must hate April fools day.
 
Duncan Castles has written an article saying he wants out and has instructed Mendes to get him a move, LvG is happy for it but Woody not so much.

Quite clearly gone in my opinion, doesn't look arsed and think it's only a matter of time before the PSG links spring up again - obviously his 1st choice but FFP screwed it up last summer.

Still think we will get good money for him, or at least dibs on one of their players - weren't we linked with Marquinhos? Maybe Lucaus or Zlatan :drool:

Edit: link http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...ut-prompts-di-maria-to-seek-summer-manchester
Nah, he's said that he wants United to be his last club in Europe. We're not moving him after a year.
 
I wish someone would do a poll asking who thinks he will still be here next season. The only way he is still here imo is if no one will pay the fee or wages for him, he doesn't want to be here imo, this isn't just bad form.
He's a shadow of the player who looked amazing in those first 5 or 6 games and his lack of effort is obvious to see, he doesn't even attempt to run with the ball anymore.

I hope i'm dead wrong with this by the way because he really could destroy teams if he gets his form back but i don't think its going to happen.
 
I wish someone would do a poll asking who thinks he will still be here next season. The only way he is still here imo is if no one will pay the fee or wages for him, he doesn't want to be here imo, this isn't just bad form.
He's a shadow of the player who looked amazing in those first 5 or 6 games and his lack of effort is obvious to see, he doesn't even attempt to run with the ball anymore.

I hope i'm dead wrong with this by the way because he really could destroy teams if he gets his form back but i don't think its going to happen.

I agree with that, he just doesn't look like he wants to play here anymore and is just going through the motions.
 
When you've tasted Madrid and Spanish life and have no affection for United then I can 100% see why he would be unhappy here.

Don't think Aguero gave a feck about City before he became a club legend, he still executed his job perfectly and he came from said "Madrid and Spanish life".

We signed the wrong player from La Liga last summer
 
Don't think Aguero gave a feck about City before he became a club legend, he still executed his job perfectly and he came from said "Madrid and Spanish life".

We signed the wrong player from La Liga last summer
I genuinely don't think Aguero saw City as a step down though. They (at the very least) looked better placed to win trophies in the next few years than Atletico. Whereas, frankly, Di Maria did see us as a step down.

And yeah, they come across as completely different characters too. Whether or not Aguero "gave a feck about City", he sure gave a feck about getting himself a few of the trophies within reach. Arguably, Di Maria doesn't even have that worry, with what he's won.

I'd say Toure's move is more comparable to Di Maria's, and for all his supposed character faults, you can't question his commitment to the cause once he joined City. He looked as fired up for it as anyone.

I don't know what to expect, to be honest.. maybe a few warmer months and a break will do Di Maria some good.
 
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I genuinely don't think Aguero saw City as a step down though. They (at the very least) looked better placed to win trophies in the next few years than Atletico. Whereas, frankly, Di Maria did see us as a step down.

And yeah, they come across as completely different characters too. Whether or not Aguero "gave a feck about City", he sure gave a feck about getting himself a few of the trophies within reach. Arguably, Di Maria doesn't even have that worry, with what he's won.

I'd say Toure's move is more comparable to Di Maria's, and for all his supposed character faults, you can't question his commitment to the cause once he joined City. He looked as fired up for it as anyone.

I don't know.. maybe a few warmer months, and a break will do Di Maria some good.

Probably should have used Sanchez for that analogy, but yeah he doesn't seem to care about United, but what exactly is a player who cares about United supposed to do to be fair? perhaps we are misjudging his character, he seems laid back, didn't really look like he gave a feck about the World Cup back in June, perhaps its just a matter of your previous point, where we bought an average player off a golden season... which would be bad P.R for the club.

*Fast forward to August where top agents are queuing for us to break the bank for their clients...because,Di Maria*.
 
Quite clearly gone based on a Duncan Castles goal.com report :lol::lol: You must hate April fools day.

No I said he is quite clearly gone in my opinion (not based on this report). He clearly doesn't give a feck and is only here because he couldn't get into PSG, he almost has to be dragged to clap the fans after a game.

Re Castles, like most journalists he spouts shit, but he also gets stuff right, not saying either way in this case. However Di Maria being unhappy surfaced long before this report.

Anyone that thinks Di Maria actually wants to be here is kidding themselves.
 
Probably should have used Sanchez for that analogy, but yeah he doesn't seem to care about United, but what exactly is a player who cares about United supposed to do to be fair? perhaps we are misjudging his character, he seems laid back, didn't really look like he gave a feck about the World Cup back in June, perhaps its just a matter of your previous point, where we bought an average player off a golden season... which would be bad P.R for the club.

*Fast forward to August where top agents are queuing for us to break the bank for their clients...because,Di Maria*.
It'll be interesting to see what Woodward does if PSG come in with a resonable bid. You'd assume (either behind the scenes or publicly) Di Maria will angle for the move. The ball would be in Woodward's court, and he'll be anxious to save face.
Quite frankly, there's no positive spin you can put on selling a £59.7 million man after a season. Maybe that's where Bale would come in?

Di Maria or no Di Maria, things are looking positive for next season. I'm excited about the window. I don't think van Gaal will lose sleep either.
 
Watched the game again last night. He was absolute wank. Even worse than I remembered from first viewing. Sure, there were two decent passes (the second of which I reckon even I could pull off) but almost every other involvement ended in him losing the ball. Often in very promising situations. Plus his work-rate was non-existent. On at least two occasions he was literally walking back from an offside position, forcing us to play a couple more passes while waiting for him to drag his arse onside.

Dunno what the feck is going on. How much is him acclimatising to the league, how much his head being wrecked by the burglary, how much is him wishing he had never moved and how much is the inconsistency he's always had as a player. Possibly a combination of all four? Whatever, it's very hard to be patient with someone who simply isn't making enough effort on the pitch. That's just unacceptable.
 
When I was a kid we got burgled, I was probably around 8 years old or so.

I reckon I would have probably gone to Oxford if that hadnt happened. Extraordinary trauma. Quite shocking, looking back, that my mum still made me go to school and didnt send me to a villa in the Mediterranean for 12 months R&R.
 
Hopefully we don't drive a player who actually wants to be here away,wouldn't care about his well being if he was putting in decent performances and not 2 good passes and feck all.
 
Watched the game again last night. He was absolute wank. Even worse than I remembered from first viewing. Sure, there were two decent passes (the second of which I reckon even I could pull off) but almost every other involvement ended in him losing the ball. Often in very promising situations. Plus his work-rate was non-existent. On at least two occasions he was literally walking back from an offside position, forcing us to play a couple more passes while waiting for him to drag his arse onside.

Dunno what the feck is going on. How much is him acclimatising to the league, how much his head being wrecked by the burglary, how much is him wishing he had never moved and how much is the inconsistency he's always had as a player. Possibly a combination of all four? Whatever, it's very hard to be patient with someone who simply isn't making enough effort on the pitch. That's just unacceptable.

He reminds me a lot of Di Maria I used to see for Real Madrid around 2011, very frustrating to watch and almost exclusively taking the wrong option. He should still be capable of the odd brilliant play - he would have had three assists on Sunday if Rooney hadn't been ahead of the ball, which truth be told was because of a poor pass, and Can hadn't fouled Blind - but it's not enough to warrant a starting place in a side that functions much better as a team without him.

There's still a part of me that believes that he could still turn this around and go back to his self from last season or early stages of this season where he was frankly excellent, but this hasn't been working out for him. You of all people should be well aware that I've put his form mainly down to wrong position/team not playing well, both points are moot right now as given his current form he couldn't possibly excel in any position on the pitch - he doesn't seem to possess the basic tools of a footballer, let alone a €70m one.

Funnily, if Madrid hadn't sold him to us and we got one of their Summer signings instead - preferably Rodriguez because I don't really see any need for Kroos in our current team - we'd probably be much better off and so would they.
 
Don't think Aguero gave a feck about City before he became a club legend, he still executed his job perfectly and he came from said "Madrid and Spanish life".

We signed the wrong player from La Liga last summer

Sanchez was a steal for Arsenal, mega shame we didn't get him. Immense value for money.
 
Watched the game again last night. He was absolute wank. Even worse than I remembered from first viewing. Sure, there were two decent passes (the second of which I reckon even I could pull off) but almost every other involvement ended in him losing the ball. Often in very promising situations. Plus his work-rate was non-existent. On at least two occasions he was literally walking back from an offside position, forcing us to play a couple more passes while waiting for him to drag his arse onside.

Dunno what the feck is going on. How much is him acclimatising to the league, how much his head being wrecked by the burglary, how much is him wishing he had never moved and how much is the inconsistency he's always had as a player. Possibly a combination of all four? Whatever, it's very hard to be patient with someone who simply isn't making enough effort on the pitch. That's just unacceptable.

Genuinely starting to wonder whether or not Di Maria has decided he's had enough of being a Man Utd player. The recurring speculation about a move elsewhere, and Van Gaal's willingness to tell the press he wouldn't stand in the way of him leaving United, makes me wonder whether Mendes has already come to some sort of understanding with United about what it would take for the club to let him leave.

I don't think its true he doesn't care. He looked delighted to beat Liverpool in the post game photos, and the picture Herrera's El Pais interview paints of him is of someone who isn't skulking about Carrington. However, I don't think he loves working with Van Gaal so much that he would stick around if offered a chance to go somewhere sunny. Especially after the break in.
 
Still can't believe we spent a whole summer chasing after the wrong Chilean.

Are you talking about Vidal?
His performances for Juve have been subpar this season and is not worth anything near what Juve were asking for him.
If we want a solid box to box CM from Serie A then Nainggolan is probably our best bet this season.
 
Are you talking about Vidal?
His performances for Juve have been subpar this season and is not worth anything near what Juve were asking for him.
If we want a solid box to box CM from Serie A then Nainggolan is probably our best bet this season.

Yeah, thats my point, we should have chased Alexis instead
 
I was nervous with him on the pitch. We were already virtually playing with 10 men as Rooney was stinking up Anfield as he usually does. If he's going to stay long-term he needs to sort himself out over the summer. But hopefully between now and the end of the season he can still contribute.
 
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