Why is he taking corners/free-kicks ahead of Rooney/Mata?? Mata statistically has the best free-kick ratio in EPL.
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Holy shit I've just seen this now. What a twat!
Going out on a limb here but wouldn't we better off breaking our transfer record to sign a central midfielder who doesn't need us to sign two other world class CMs to do all the hard work for him? Maybe sign a central midfielder who can can play, you know, as a central midifielder?
Don't agree with getting rid but I accept and somewhat agree with your idea. However, when playing at the elite level (Champions League), that's what it's about.
As much as I want to win the league, I would take 4th and a European Cup. I'm not saying that's what I think could happen but world class players help you at the highest level and we will hopefully need that next season.
Di Maria will learn from games like this, it's still a new league, in tough circumstances so I can't be too critical at the moment. Lets see if he is dealing with these challenging games this time next season and then we will know if he is worth it.
Anyone else think we could have saved a load of money and bought Depay?
Wow deserves a medal for this
Some wouldn't have.
Getting your house robbed with a young baby in it? I would imagine he would be pretty shaken up, not coming from the country either an all...
Im sure it wasnt easy. But I would expect any player to still play a game of football a couple of days later
I think he might be the thickest footballer on the planet. His decision making makes Nani look like Paul Scholes.
At one point yesterday Rooney played him in behind the entire West Ham defence, and he decided the best option was to cut back and then try to beat 3 defenders on his own, who weren't even in his way until he'd purposely ran 10 yards in the wrong direction in order for them to be.
£65m for someone who you can count on to play the wrong pass or try the wrong thing 90% of the time he gets the ball is not good.
At one point yesterday Rooney played him in behind the entire West Ham defence, and he decided the best option was to cut back and then try to beat 3 defenders on his own, who weren't even in his way until he'd purposely ran 10 yards in the wrong direction in order for them to be.
£65m for someone who you can count on to play the wrong pass or try the wrong thing 90% of the time he gets the ball is not good.
Was really poor yesterday. Made one or two of his trademark bursts, but end product was really wasteful. I liked him on one side of the diamond.
But I do question whether he would be better for us out wide or as a wide man in a front 3. He scored 3 against Germany from a wide position and although has been good over the last year in a more central midfield role, I do wonder if in the current Utd team its best to go back to basics let him run, create, cross. And pace to our play etc, instead of trying to make things happen through the middle.
But I do question whether he would be better for us out wide or as a wide man in a front 3. He scored 3 against Germany from a wide position and although has been good over the last year in a more central midfield role, I do wonder if in the current Utd team its best to go back to basics let him run, create, cross. And pace to our play etc, instead of trying to make things happen through the middle.
He was shitting it so he obviously wanted to be under the spotlights so the thieves couldn't target him!!! Don't you know Di Maria is the biggest coward in the world!?!?
Di Maria never scored 3 against Germany, he assisted 3 and scored the 4th.
Agree with this.
Yesterday barely anything came off for him but at least he kept getting on the ball and being positive with it. Much rather that to players who will either hide or just always play the safe option. He still created one good chance for Van Persie who hit it straight at the keeper. Clearly struggling for form right now but we have a lot bigger problems than him imo.
Should never take a corner for us again though, I don't think he's put in a good one all season. It should be Mata/Van Persie and Rooney taking them.
You're right, was a while back and forgot the stats, either way he was brilliant, as he was for us during this period playing more centrally to be fair. BUT he played off the right for the majority of this international and was excellent. As he was from wide positions when he first joined Real.
Just think its an option for him to give him that space to work players, and allow him to run at a man beat him and try to produce end product rather than in the middle where even when you beat a man you've still got the CB, or a midfielder still to go past. Seems to run into dead ends a lot of the time.
He has to play in the midfield. He does his best bursting up and dribbling past players. We paid 60 million for him and they way we're playing him won't allow us to get much of that.
Yeah agreed, why are we playing him and Rooney out of position? Shouldn't we just swap them round?
He'll come good eventually, I have no doubts about him as a midfielder as long as the other pieces in the jigsaw come together. He is the least of our worries.
I still don't think he's happy here and I don't even think he wanted to come here, he was forced into this move more than anything.
given the opportunity I reckon he would jump ship straight away.
given the opportunity I reckon he would jump ship straight away.
I reckon you'd be better off trying him from the right. Not sure if he's had a proper chance there (or if van Gaal is even willing to switch to 4-3-3) but he was great on the right for Madrid too. Just wasn't as consistent as he was for them centrally.
I am not exactly seeing any major impact he has made on the team as a £60 million signing, although i think we should give him another season to prove himself
The shooting accuracy being so low isn't a surprise when he takes so many shots from long distances and difficult situations. He's trying to be at our club what he really isn't, a leader of men, the team's main player.
He was never worth £60m, even based on his form last season. No point judging him on that now, best to just accept you overpaid and assess his form without considering the transfer fee.
Regardless of rather he would of preferred to go to PSG or not, I honestly don't buy the notion that he had no idea what he was in for when he signed. The word 'project' was mentioned by a lot of our new signings and they would have been well informed that it's their job to fire us back into the Champions League. Di Maria being the most expensive signing out of all of them, we should be expecting a whole lot better.
It's beyond stupid at this stage. What's the point in having him in midfield if we can't get the best out of him. Him and Janujaz need to be played on each wing with Rooney up front, Mata at 10 and any combination of Herrera/Blind/Carrick behind them. Fellaini can be used in games where we need more physique (however Herrera is definitely a better ball winner than him anyway).
I don't care if Di Maria's best position was centre mid for Real. We are a different side and at the very least he'd be easier to get on the ball and run at players form a wide position. Nothing stopping a team with players like that from being able to interchange positions either. Di Maria simply isn't as good with his back to goal as our other midfielders and we lose the midfield battle because Blind has to pick the ball up constantly by himself.
Can't blame him or Rooney for that matter. it's LVG's fault for playing 2 motionless statues up front. Painful to watch especially since Di Maria is being snuffed out of games and on a side note I reckon Rooney would have taken both chances that fell to Falcao and RVP yesterday.
If/when we acquire the players to put him back in midfield then fair enough but for the moment 4231 is by far the most suitable formation to get the best out of our current players.
I don't care if Di Maria's best position was centre mid for Real. We are a different side and at the very least he'd be easier to get on the ball and run at players form a wide position. Nothing stopping a team with players like that from being able to interchange positions either. Di Maria simply isn't as good with his back to goal as our other midfielders and we lose the midfield battle because Blind has to pick the ball up constantly by himself.
Can't blame him or Rooney for that matter. it's LVG's fault for playing 2 motionless statues up front. Painful to watch especially since Di Maria is being snuffed out of games and on a side note I reckon Rooney would have taken both chances that fell to Falcao and RVP yesterday.
If/when we acquire the players to put him back in midfield then fair enough but for the moment 4231 is by far the most suitable formation to get the best out of our current players.
Not judging him mainly on that, i am also judging him based on his past performances, he was a Real Madrid player and was a key member of the team that won La Decima, other players who have left Real Madrid have gone on to make their new teams better over the years... Robben,Sneijder,Higuain,Ozil,Seedorf,Makelele etc
When you sign a player from Real Madrid who was arguably their best player for that season, you kind of expect more from him...it doesn't matter if you signed him for £1 million or £100 million.
Nani in the 2010/11 season performed better for us than Di Maria is doing now (i am well aware they are different scenarios,it is just an example)
I was under the impression him and his agent were very much aware of this, wasn't that the reason we gave him our coveted #7 shirt in the first place? as the key man in the Van Gaalactico's?
Oh yes, I'm not denying that you need to pay top wages to get players, money speaks and they're professionals at the end of it, not playing for charity or as a pastime. My point was that quite a players would pick top clubs over ones that are not even if wages are slightly lower. Key is slightly though, no amount of history allows a club to be cheapstakes.
The City v Milan offer is an extreme one though. I'd be surprised if most players who had both Real and City chasing them didnt pick the former even if they offered say 10% less.
I'm confused. It's been said his best position is top of the diamond, but after yesterday it is now said he should be playing wide on the diamond. Whatever his best position is supposed to be, the one he played at Madrid, he should be placed there. Which was it?
That's fair enough, don't disagree with that.
The position he played for Real Madrid last season doesn't exist in your set up. In a diamond the closest would be on the left of it though, with freedom to get forward and move wide.
Right. Thanks.
LCM. I don't think many people have said his best position would be at the tip of the diamond. I have seen a lot of people say his best position is central.
Nani in 10/11 was one of the top 3 wingers in the world, with only Ronaldo being definitely ahead and there not being much between robben, Ribery and him. Was brilliant that year until he got injured close to the end. Same with the second half of 09/10 and most of 11/12. At his best he can still be a fantastic player, so its not like that's a ridiculous thing to suggest that at his best nani was better then what di maria is producing right now. At his best he was comparable to di maria at his best.
Ahh. Then that's my misinterpretation of the "central" comments. Apologies.
Still creates 2 chances a game even when he's in poor form. If rvp and falcao didn't have wank finishing he'd have like 10 more assists for the season so far.
Not sure how he'd do on the right in a slow, possession oriented system where he has dribble from a standing start instead of running with the ball from deep. We just need to up the tempo of our play considerably to get the best out of him and a few of our other players IMO. He's wasted in a slow style of play that let's the opposition get 10 men behind the ball and there aren't quick transitions. Its no wonder that every time during games where we have quick periods of play and go on counter attacks that he comes alive and is at his best.
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