Too bad it didnt work out for him here. he has an absolutely cool name for a n10. Just lacks the ability, at least for the prem
Andreas Pereira / loan to Lazio
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Just sounds like Lazio wanted him on a year loan only and agreed on anything as the buy option. Good luck to him though, hope he does well.
Still getting worked up over the €27M number I see. It is just a hedge on our end, and not that relevant.
They’ll just let it run out and haggle for him if they want to like Mike with Roma.
They’ll just let it run out and haggle for him if they want to like Mike with Roma.
If its only an option to buy and not a guarantee, whats the betting they say no thanks at the end of the loan? There is nothing special about him at all. If Ole is still here will he say what he said about Sanchez coming back 
Negotiating the deal with Lazio isn't the issue. Giving him a new four-year contract last summer is. The result of the 2019 mistake is the struggle to let him go in 2020.
Shame it didn't work out for him here but he simply isn't at the level needed.
As for those complaining about the deal who actually gives a shit ? Such a odd thing to get annoyed about.
As for those complaining about the deal who actually gives a shit ? Such a odd thing to get annoyed about.
fecking hell. People will literally moan at everything the club does won’t they.
We can register only 25 players and already meet homegrown player criteria. So he was surplus to requirements. But I would have preferred to sell
The fact that Lazio weren’t even bothered to negotiate a reasonable amount for the buy-option is quite telling.
The shared wages are even more ludicrous.
The only positive spin on this deal is that he’ll be getting some games, therefore, more exposure so he can attract some interest for the next summer window. I wouldn’t get my hopes up though.
maybe the lazio setup will coach him in patterns of play
Nobody who sees Pereira play close up is paying €27m for him.
He'll be back.
He'll be back.
Cafe last season - OMG Andreas Pereria is dog shit and shouldn't play again for United. Championship level footballer, get rid NOW!!!
Cafe transfer window 2020 - OMG why are United getting such a bad deal for Pereria. United are always getting ripped off!!!
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It's absolutely amazing isn't it.
Time and time again we're rewarding mediocre players with new contracts on big money relative to their abilities. Then we wonder why we can't sell.
The club never seems to learn! We constantly overpay on salaries, even recently, Brandon Williams has been given a new contract on £60,000 a week after 6 months of first team football. It's complete madness.
It’s fecking nauseating.
It really is unbearable at the moment.
No, he got the extension so we could give him a proper chance. He's got the chance now and proven to not be good enough.
Odd deal, but whatever. Paying half his wages to not play for us is better than paying all his wages to not play for us.
That is the state our fan become. A even bigger joke than our ineffective board.
Shared wage...
And who would think Lazio would pay transfer fee while taking Pereira full wage, next summer?
And who would think Lazio would pay transfer fee while taking Pereira full wage, next summer?
It was obviously for football reasons, though I always suspected it was less about ability and more to do with our lack of numbers in midfield.
One way or the other, we've managed to chain ourselves with yet another contract. And for a player most people didn't need another season in order to declare isn't good enough.
It frees up a spot in the squad for someone else. It gets some wages off the books.
Undoing the problems of the past is going to take time, wise man once said, you can't put the shit back in the donkey.
Obviously it's not a best case scenario, but we are where we are. Rather he's in Italy playing and putting himself in the shop window costing use 25k a week than doing nothing here costing us 50k a week.
Undoing the problems of the past is going to take time, wise man once said, you can't put the shit back in the donkey.
Obviously it's not a best case scenario, but we are where we are. Rather he's in Italy playing and putting himself in the shop window costing use 25k a week than doing nothing here costing us 50k a week.
In a well run club/business the clowns that negotiated those contracts for Pereira and Jones just last year would be out the door along with the players. This summer has highlighted how poor those decisions were.
Shared wage...
And who would think Lazio would pay transfer fee while taking Pereira full wage, next summer?
Most likely his value is in the fecking gutter because the guy lost his place and never was to be seen again. He at least gets a chance to play in a league that allows players to have a bit more time in position, and he can show what he can offer. Wasn't going to happen here. If he gets sold for 18 that's probably 10 more than most clubs offered right now.
At least it's some of his wages off the books. Better than nothing, and honestly probably the best we can do at this point for a player of his caliber on the wages he's on. Best case scenario is he generates some interest during this loan and someone takes him off our hands permanently next year.
Yeah you are probably right
Would the €27 million make him United's most expensive academy graduate sale? Or would it be Beckham?
Like Bremen with Chong, they just don't want a gamble in this pandemic era.Shared wage...
And who would think Lazio would pay transfer fee while taking Pereira full wage, next summer?
If he is good enough, they will take his full wage and buy him. Anyway, his wage is only 30k/week, it's not even half of Lingard's wage.
Depends on source. Some said he's on 60k+. I don't trust Lazio to follow through with the transfer unless Pereira has astronomical transformation (highly unlikely). Bielsa quit on Lazio since they struggled to get his transfer targets. You just mentioned pandemic, even Juventus feels it. And for Lazio kind of club it even hit harder.
Sound like they just try to fill their squad with some loan and weather the storm. Wouldn't have my hope up if I were you
Pereira is cheap and young, he is not a finish product. This is why they want him, and the source that told his wage 60k+ should be ban.
This is the most reliable source
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/
Lazio made 2 signings this summer so far. 1 on free, Pepe Reina. Muriqui for less than 20mil. They failed to attract David Silva for free despite having CL football to offer. Couldn't get Borja Mayoral either.
What made spotrac most reliable? Why it doesn't have other league wage bill? Go check other sites. Lazio is not shy to pay player more 30k or more. Why do they need us to subsidize Andreas Pereira 30k wage, when it's "cheap and young, ... not a finish product"
No another one who got a new contract and within no time is surplus to requirements but difficult to offload.
Comes across as a good kid, likeable. Hope he does really well in Lazio
I agree it's not important but why even bother putting it in there? What are we hedging against? We could just as easily loan him out without any buy option at all.
You put it in there as a favor to the loanee in case they want to prevent him hitting the open market. And you set it artificially inflated in case he has a miraculous career-changing breakthrough and actually becomes worth that. It works as a hedge for both sides.
Once you get past the point they won’t take an obligation to buy, the option to buy number becomes almost meaningless and not worth worrying about in most cases.
It does seem utterly meaningless in this case which makes me wonder if its true. We’re loaning them a player i don’t see any incentive to do them a favour. No option is better than an option for us, so why do it? I can’t imagine its a deal breaker for Lazio when the fee is beyond what they’ll pay anyway.
We clearly want to get rid. With that in mind, this deal looks shite, and heavily depends on Pereira to turn out great, which is unlikely, to achieve that goal. There is no prevent Pereira to come back next season.
And hence the number is meaningless in this scenario, so why whinge about it? That is not the point of criticism worth attention in this deal.
If he would do so well, we wouldn't have been short of option to sell. His contract with us, is already our hedge. Naming a price is just letting Lazio know we're desperate to rid. If Lazio is that desperate in getting him, then they would agree to an obligation to buy at guaranteed softer fee. Lazio clearly isn't.
Our negotiators must live in a bubble getting greedy and wishful thinking, trying to squeezing as much money as we could for dream scenario. While in reality, the chance Pereira remains our issue for the following year is still high.
Because spotrac's source is a publication research in the US, not some kind of twitter rumours that you followed.
This is meaningless, since we have no idea what really happened on this negotiation, I'm done.
I hope he does a Luis Alberto and creates market next season if Lazio won't sign him permanently.
Don't think they will sign him for 27 million, that might be their record breaking signing.
Don't think they will sign him for 27 million, that might be their record breaking signing.
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