Andreas Pereira | 2014/15 Performances

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Devil may care said:
I think he looks to be the kind of polayer that will excel if brought into the main squad but could stagnate with another season of reserve football. Last night he showed the technique, pace and energy in midfield that could see him be an asset off the bench this season IMO.

His passing was a bit loose at times but that is because he was trying things to get us back in the game, he was always looking to do that and take hold of the game which is more important, it showed the right attitude.
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Need to keep him involved and training/travelling with the first team but another season in the U21s won't do him that much harm or atleast till January.

Also keep Pearson and Rothwell involved unless they are loaned out.
 
Elliott said:
He did well. Our best midfielder both in terms of quality and energy. This guy and Wilson are definite silver linings on a surreal night.
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Agree. That's the all part of these games for me and Fergie used this tournament in the same way.
 
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Even better performance than i thought after watching that.

Anyone else think he would be great in a deep midfield role for us? Was impressive in his attacking play, but looked especially reassured when in a deeper position - Good interceptions/good use of short-passes and always finding a man with his mid-long range passing.
 
sincher said:
I am not fooled. He has not played at CM before that I am aware of and I can see good reasons for that. To start with, at least, he should play in a more attacking role.
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Yes he has. It's just that he can't play in midfield due to Rothwell and Pearson playing. Same reason why Goss won't be able to play in midfield much and instead will have to opt for left back or lcb. You could say the same for Janko. He's a rb, but has been forced to play an attacking role due to having Varela at rb.

Pereira will end up in midfield not as a #10.
 
Pearson and Rothwell offer very good examples of why I don't think he will be a central midfielder. And I am not convinced he would be played there even if they were not around.

I can see that in theory he has the tools for the middle but have my doubts about his engine and positional instincts.
 
sincher said:
Pearson and Rothwell offer very good examples of why I don't think he will be a central midfielder. And I am not convinced he would be played there even if they were not around.

I can see that in theory he has the tools for the middle but have my doubts about his engine and positional instincts.
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He could play in a 4-3-3, but I dont think he could play as midfielder in 4231.
 
sincher said:
I am not fooled. He has not played at CM before that I am aware of and I can see good reasons for that. To start with, at least, he should play in a more attacking role.
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He did for our under 18's a year ago in the Milk Cup and won player of the tournament. I have no doubt that he will end up as a CM.
 
Thought he did very well when he come on yesterday. One of our very few positives out of the game. Showed some nice touches and skill, and played some adventurous balls.
 
Still too lightweight, got brushed off way too easily. Very nice on the ball but he still needs to become more consistent for the reserves.
 
sincher said:
Pearson and Rothwell offer very good examples of why I don't think he will be a central midfielder. And I am not convinced he would be played there even if they were not around.

I can see that in theory he has the tools for the middle but have my doubts about his engine and positional instincts.
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Looks like a natural number 8 to me
 
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sincher said:
Pearson and Rothwell offer very good examples of why I don't think he will be a central midfielder. And I am not convinced he would be played there even if they were not around.

I can see that in theory he has the tools for the middle but have my doubts about his engine and positional instincts.
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Some interesting points but he's got a great engine.
 
Just for the sake of argument, what does Cleverley offer that Pereira doesn't? A bit of experience, not quite such a pushover defensively, what else? Pereira already looks better on the ball.
 
Damn. He actually did better than I thought he did. If we aren't going to buy anyone, at least give the kids a run in the first team - Pereira, Pearson and Rothwell. Just don't go back to playing Cleverley and Fletcher. Try something different LVG. Kids who are good enough take the chances that are given to them like Januzaj last year. No one thought he was going to be as good as he was last season. Maybe one of the other kids could be like that this year.
 
Elliott said:
Some interesting points but he's got a great engine.
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He goes missing in too many games. You need more consistency to play in the middle.

Maybe in the long term but should start more attacking and would do better I think.
 
sincher said:
He goes missing in too many games. You need more consistency to play in the middle.

Maybe in the long term but should start more attacking and would do better I think.
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Yeah, he needs to influence games more consistently and so far this season, he has. I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment, just the point about his engine.
 
surf said:
Just for the sake of argument, what does Cleverley offer that Pereira doesn't? A bit of experience, not quite such a pushover defensively, what else? Pereira already looks better on the ball.
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I think the same

Cleverley, Anderson and Fletcher are nothing players....i would rather play him than of this players again
 
Still a bit lightweight to play with the big boys but has excellent technical ability.
 
He's every bit a central midfielder. Again, another play that would most likely benefit from a shift to a genuine 433.
 
We could bring in Zoltan Gera and play a Herrera-Pereira-Gera midfield three. It would usher in a whole new -era.
 
I don't think he's played a game in CM for the U21s/reserves, though there are several followers of the youth system that think he can become a CM.

I'm not convinced myself, but LVG is a great person to try to convert him.
 
After the game I thought he played reasonably well, but after watching the vid. I actually think he was fantastic. He made more long successful passes in 30minutes than TC23 last season. He also looks to ping the ball around with ease "almost" like scholes used to do it, certainly the technique is there. We could dominate the game with him if we get him a good midfield partner. Someone like Carvalho. Actually I think he would do good with Jones. I am sure that van Gaal will watch him closely since tuesday.. Shame for him Pearson and Rothwell is a good pairing. He should not be used out wide anymore. I think he can become as good CM as CAM like Oscar but his future is in LVGs hands and I think it is clear that we have a lack of quality CM so he may be towards CM afterall. I think he should at least make the bench against Burnley..
 
Sammyjunn said:
No. He could play like this

Carrick
Herrera Pereira, and thats no #10 role. He could also play like this
Herrera Pereira
Mata
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We the first one isn't a #10 but the second one is a central midfield role and you said he is not capable of that.
 
Sammyjunn said:
But that is a more CDM role normally, some CAM's, CM's play there but I think you need some experience to play there.
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Well not both midfielders in the 4-2-3-1 are CDMs. One of them usually is, which is the #6 and the other, #8 usually roams around and is more of a box to box.
 
The Red Thinker said:
I think this boy is getting a promotion. So will Powell and Wilson.
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Agree with Pereira and Wilson, but don't agree with Powell. He looked quite poor vs Mk Dons, got pushed off the ball so easily and his passing was really poor. Pretty much all he has is a nice shot, but other then that, he doesn't have much to his game.
 
bosnian_red said:
Agree with Pereira and Wilson, but don't agree with Powell. He looked quite poor vs Mk Dons, got pushed off the ball so easily and his passing was really poor. Pretty much all he has is a nice shot, but other then that, he doesn't have much to his game.
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It's his first game after 6 months without any sort of pre-season.Give the lad time.
 
khoazany said:
It's his first game after 6 months without any sort of pre-season.Give the lad time.
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Yeah I know that, I'm just saying he's never really shown anything as a midfielder. He had a decent loan spell at Wigan, but as a striker. We'll see but it's way too soon for him to go in the first team.
 
Hopefully gets a promotion this season, along with Wilson.

Wilson may well be third choice striker now, and rightfully so. Pereira could easily be fourth choice in midfield after Herrera, Carrick and whoever else we sign.
 
If we sell Clev to Villa within the next 24 hours I wouldn't be surprised if Pereira plays on Saturday.
 
RDCR07 said:
Im confused here. But the formation you posted above had him as a #8, but you're saying he is not ready to do that?

Herrera-----Pereira

Mata​
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The #8 in a 433 is quite different than in a 4231, normally in 433 the #10 drops back a bit lot more than in 4231 I have noticed, whilst on paper you barely see a difference. I havent seen much #8 in 4231 who are deep lying playmakers or am I wrong now? While at 433 I see it more often.
 
You only have to rewind 2 years to remind yourself of what people were saying about Cleverley(then look at him now) for you to remember to stop making declarations already. This place can be so weird(stupid) sometimes.
 
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