His development into a CM this season has been the highlight of the youth team IMO and he is the only young CM we have I can see making it here, hopefully we sort something out with him.
Andreas Pereira | 2014/15 Performances
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He would be ideal in our midfield diamond at the moment, his obvious trait is his passing and vision, but he seems very comfortable when out wide and has the skill set to glide past players, similar to Silva.
Playing Rooney as a cm isn't helping his chances, either LVG changes his philosophy/formation or he's gone.
I reckon we're not gonna play him unless he signs a contract! LVG won't see a point in playing him if he could be off, also showcases him for other clubs to come in.Not looking good really is it?. He came on and impressed against MK dons when everybody else looked rubbish, then hasn't had a look in since.
He's done pretty well in all the reserve games I have seen too, I really don't understand why he hasn't had a chance - especially in our midfield.
By now he's probably negotiating with other teams, so unless we can persuade him I think he is gone
He seems to really love the club though, going by his twitter posts
https://twitter.com/andrinhopereira
As if other clubs don't know about him...
We're not playing so far simply because of the competition.How can he get games when he's behind Herrera in the pecking order and Ander had to sit on the bench every match?
That saying we seem to play him in different positions recently for the U21s so that might increase his chance with the first team.
He didn't get a chance against yeovil or cambridge which I think many people are annoyed about. Those games he could quite easily have played and showed his worth, IMO he is better than Rooney in CM now!
Obviously people know about him!
But if he starts getting a few games and makes an impact like Januzaj did then obviously more teams are going to want him, which will also drive up his contract demands and give him all the power in negotiation.
By the same reason we shouldn't play Wilson or McNair also.
People overthought too much about Pereira's contract situation.He's no Pogba and he seems more determined to make it at this club than Paul.
Any chance he'll make the bench on monday considering the injuries in midfield and the opposition?
It just feels like Pogba all over again.
We are allowed to field 7 subs these days. I don't see why one cannot be used for this lad. If we get a controlling lead in a game, a perfect opportunity to see what he can do, and give him the minutes he deserves / requires
We are allowed to field 7 subs these days. I don't see why one cannot be used for this lad. If we get a controlling lead in a game, a perfect opportunity to see what he can do, and give him the minutes he deserves / requires
Sadly what i got out of that video us how much i miss Rafael!
I hope LVG has promised him game time next season because if not he's off in the summer, sure of it.
We've seen this movie before yet for some unknown reason we seem intent on seeing it again.
This seems different from the Pogba situation.
Pogba not only got minutes on the pitch but SAF also kept putting him on the bench. It seemed like the manager was looking for an excuse to play him, but could never quite come up with one. Wrongly, in hindsight.
Perreira, on the other hand, has been completely blanked. He's not had a sniff. This doesn't feel like a case mismanagement; it feels like LvG simply doesn't rate him. There are no 'ifs, buts or maybes' like there were in Pogba's case. I trust the manager's judgement on youth, so I'm willing to get on board with it.
Pogba not only got minutes on the pitch but SAF also kept putting him on the bench. It seemed like the manager was looking for an excuse to play him, but could never quite come up with one. Wrongly, in hindsight.
Perreira, on the other hand, has been completely blanked. He's not had a sniff. This doesn't feel like a case mismanagement; it feels like LvG simply doesn't rate him. There are no 'ifs, buts or maybes' like there were in Pogba's case. I trust the manager's judgement on youth, so I'm willing to get on board with it.
Or simply because not every youngster would play in the first team at 18/19 especially at the top club?LVG rates him enough to make him train with the first team full time despite being one of the youngster in the U21s.If we want to put him on the bench who will we drop for him?
Exactly. Perreira is still falling short on physique/ability/decision making so there's not much more the manager can currently do. I can live with that.
SAF was itching to give Pogba a chance, but LvG isn't doing so with Perreira. It doesn't feel like missed opportunities in the same way.
We're struggling to get Herrera, Mata and Fellaini on the pitch as it is. Unless Pereira was like a 17 year old Fabregas once was, which he evidently isn't, he's going to have to wait his turn.
If he leaves then fair enough, but the Pogba comparisons are forced and predominantly unfair. Pogba was better, physically ready and coming through at a time when his competition was an ill Fletcher, a geriatric Scholes and an out of sorts Anderson. Times have changed somewhat.
If he leaves then fair enough, but the Pogba comparisons are forced and predominantly unfair. Pogba was better, physically ready and coming through at a time when his competition was an ill Fletcher, a geriatric Scholes and an out of sorts Anderson. Times have changed somewhat.
He should be loaned out next season. Well, that's if he signs a new contract
LVG has explained it already. We lack certain things from our midfielders and have too many 10s and one way attacking players.
If we move Mata on in the summer maybe Andreas will get more gametime. But if he doesnt? We're already giving Wilson and Januzaj gametime in the attack, its not reasonable to expect more. In that case he might need to go on loan - just look at Atletico, they have young players getting some gametime but Oliver Torres still had to go on loan to Porto to play. Why would Pereira be any different? And in a lot of cases players develop better on loan, not just on the pitch but off it.
If we move Mata on in the summer maybe Andreas will get more gametime. But if he doesnt? We're already giving Wilson and Januzaj gametime in the attack, its not reasonable to expect more. In that case he might need to go on loan - just look at Atletico, they have young players getting some gametime but Oliver Torres still had to go on loan to Porto to play. Why would Pereira be any different? And in a lot of cases players develop better on loan, not just on the pitch but off it.
I get the impression he'll leave and become a very good scholes type deep lying midfielder for someone in a few years.
If i were him I'd probably leave and try to get regular game time.
If i were him I'd probably leave and try to get regular game time.
Andreas is 19. And we play in the EPL which is acknowledged as being particularly physical in nature. Unlike he's a freak talent like Fabregas at that age, no tier 1 team plays a 19 y/o on a regular basis in CM. Not every "talented youngster" is a Messi or a Ronaldo.
He'll get his chance.
Pogba was a freak. That's why he should have got his chance, if only for the sake of good man management.
Perreira isn't a freak, so there's no way he can play at the moment. Let LvG deal with it. He understands youth better than anyone.
The big difference is we're playing far less games, so much fewer opportunities for youngsters to get a run out (or time on the bench)
That's what I'm trying to say. Your previous post seemed to suggest that LVG had frozen him out by not playing him.
Indeed, and that is a big shame. Younsters like Pereira, Januzaj and Wilson would benefit from having more games then the occasional start and/or cameo.
What makes you think he'll be a deep lying playmaker, and why do you think we dont use him there?
Played well there for the youth before he moved up age groups, don't really like him as the playmaker/2nd forward role he has now.
Before I thought he wasn't played in a deeper role in Joyces lot because we had Pearson and that other kid whos name escapes me right now, but seeing as they're both out on loan now and he's still not playing there i can only presume Joyce just fancies him more in the top half of the pitch.
Also all these Pogba comparisons, I'm an avid watcher of our youth and he was never some maruading beast, he looked lazy half the time, I was sort of in agreement in with Sir Alex that he wasn't quite ready, but people here make out that he was dominating in back then and everyone bar them was blind not to see it, when in reality you got a glimpse of his talent here and there or at best patches, but never actually dominated a game in the same way a Morisson did at times in that team.
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Yes, a season in a competive 'second tier' league like Portugal, France or Holland would be good for him
The point is that Pogba was close enough to the first team for SAF to have taken a gamble at the time.
Perreira isn't close to being ready, so neither player nor manager can be blamed for the current situation... even if the player ends up leaving.
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I'm probably going get shot down on this thread now, but I have watched quite a few games with this lad this season,I have to say how underwhelmed Ihave been. He scored a free kick versus Chelsea in the 2-1 win the other night, apartfrom that I thought he looked sloppy and lightweight for large spells the match, I really like the james weir kid, needs polishing but had bags of energy and ruffled the oppo in practically every game I have seen him.
As for the Pogba comparison, I can't see andreas ever hitting that lads level, quite simply the best youth player I have seen at OT in donkeys, the rest is just heartbreaking. The above is just my armchair scout opinion, go easy on me eh lads.
As for the Pogba comparison, I can't see andreas ever hitting that lads level, quite simply the best youth player I have seen at OT in donkeys, the rest is just heartbreaking. The above is just my armchair scout opinion, go easy on me eh lads.
So not specifically deep just a normal CM then? Thought you meant the latter Scholes trying to dictate from deep ala Pirlo in the deel lying role. Which doesnt sound like Pereira at all.
I think Pogba comparisions are because of the situation with his contract and him being the most talented of the boys in reserves but you know it..
Shame I was too young to watch Scholes in reserves but I feel that Pereira could play that deep playmaking role but it will take time, needs to work on his defensive skills and passing passing passing just to be more accurate and not do many mistakes but he already has got fantastic passing range and good dribbling skills to lose the player. I guess he will be played there in later stages of his career if we can predict anything from what we see now..
You are talking about Pogba ? I totally agree with you, he wasn't really trying, he wasn't showing any hunger, his talent was obvious but his attitude wasn't right he was very immature.
I have the same feeling with Pereira, he is talented but until last season (I haven't watched the juice this season), he didn't showed that he wanted it more than the others.
I like Weir but his touch,passing and even dribbling are too hot and cold to be considered a serious prospect.Harrop is my favorite prospect of that group.He has everything for a midfielder just need to show it more often.Pereira is better at "no.8" position IMO but with our lack of attacking options in the U21s he has to play further up the pitch.
it was coming.... we are useless in keeping talented young players
of course he doesnt, we didnt give him a proper chance. Bags of talent, i had hopes we would sign him.
Was always going to be difficult to keep Pereira.
Was very ambitious when he arrived and looked like he had a clear idea about when he should be playing first team football.
Not really surprised he doesn't want to wait. PSV would be a great move for him.
Was very ambitious when he arrived and looked like he had a clear idea about when he should be playing first team football.
Not really surprised he doesn't want to wait. PSV would be a great move for him.
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