Scoring goals for fun for Portugal and Porto this year. Bald Dunc links us with him.
Andre Silva
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If he's slow, do not want.
Portugal has shit strikers, do not want..
Is he going to be the one Mourinho will buy and discard or one of those he'll use? It's a bit expensive if it's just one to discard, maybe we're raising the stakes in that game.
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He's actually a really good prospect, and probably their best striker talent since the underrated Pauleta, so dunno what the 'do no want' commentary is about. Not superfast, but mobile and agile enough; with a natural sense for running in the proper goalward channels and 'being in the right place at the right time', decent technique on the ball - a byproduct of being versatile as a young player, fair bit of presence, and he likes to bring others into play (from what I've seen) - which is an overlooked quality in young #9s. Could stand to improve in all those aspects, but he has the raw tools to justify the process of 'polishing' his game over time.
Great goals per game ratio in the U levels, one of the best players and scorers in the U-20 World Cup, and now stepping up for Porto and the national team. Would prefer a more experienced player like maybe Icardi to ease us into the post-Ibrahimović era (particularly in terms of raw productivity since we can ill-afford more youngsters that need time to step up), but it could be argued that given time - Silva has the potential to developed into a more rounded striker who does his business both inside and outside of the box (like Morata, expect he might have more of the elusive poacher's instinct - that knack for finding the back of the net is arguably his biggest quality).
Great goals per game ratio in the U levels, one of the best players and scorers in the U-20 World Cup, and now stepping up for Porto and the national team. Would prefer a more experienced player like maybe Icardi to ease us into the post-Ibrahimović era (particularly in terms of raw productivity since we can ill-afford more youngsters that need time to step up), but it could be argued that given time - Silva has the potential to developed into a more rounded striker who does his business both inside and outside of the box (like Morata, expect he might have more of the elusive poacher's instinct - that knack for finding the back of the net is arguably his biggest quality).
Scores a handful of goals in a non-competitive league and against Club Brugge and the Faroe Islands and suddenly he's worth £50m.
I don't know how good he is, but I would much rather we develop our current young strikers in Martial and Rashford into that role in lieu of another bought player. It just feels more satisfying. Plus there is no guarantee he would settle and excel here, and we know how good Rashford and Martial are.
I don't think it'd be a great idea for Ibra to stay here longer than this season. If we're going to buy a striker, it should be someone who is established enough to lead the line for a few years. Old enough to have experience but not too young so as to prevent the development of Rashford and/or Martial in that role. Solid and reliable is what we need. I don't know if this player exists or if he is available. If Diego Costa was available he would be the perfect candidate.
I don't think it'd be a great idea for Ibra to stay here longer than this season. If we're going to buy a striker, it should be someone who is established enough to lead the line for a few years. Old enough to have experience but not too young so as to prevent the development of Rashford and/or Martial in that role. Solid and reliable is what we need. I don't know if this player exists or if he is available. If Diego Costa was available he would be the perfect candidate.
Another extremely young striker with it all to prove and constant gametime to get there is exactly what we need.
Been following his progress for a little while now, rate this guy, not that I think he's what we really need particularly right now. Wouldn't mind a double swoop for him and Ruben Neves though 
literally just before clicking on the notification icon I'd bet this comment would come up, I actually knew it before I wrote my comment but then Cristiano is not typical no9 and is a big exception, They had pretty dire years in terms of lack of quality strikers one would say at the same time I haven't even seen Adrein Silva play, didn't really bother tbh..
I'd rather we gave a chance to Rashers or Martial They look great enough prospect to me. I'd rather invest money to a quality winger
Where are the YouTube videos?
Just play Martial up top and he'll become world class and we'll be fine.
Dunc the lunk. Thick as a castle wall.
Good player. But, this mirrors Memphis' situation, where the player is tearing it up in a significantly lesser league. This usually doesn't translate well into BPL football.
If we have to go for a similar striker we should simply go for Mauro Icardi
If we have to go for a similar striker we should simply go for Mauro Icardi
Good to see United fans learning from our amazing experience going down the "buy, buy, buy" route.
Whilst I don't think we should retain Zlatan after this season ends, we have Martial and Rashford already. I'd rather sign a left winger and move Martial infield.
He's very good. Our best striker since the massively underrated Pedro Pauleta, although that isn't that hard tbh. André kinda reminds me of him too.
Gets alive in the box and knows how to bring others into play, he's a fighter and will press opposition's defenders. All his current flaws should be things he'll improve with experience. His movement is his biggest asset, but his finishing needs to improve. He's not ready to move to a club like Manchester United yet, he's loved at Porto (especially by the women) and he should be starting every game so I see no reason for him to leave.
Highlights from the Porto B team:
More recent ones:
And here he is scoring a bycicle kick in the last minute to send the cup final into extra time:
Gets alive in the box and knows how to bring others into play, he's a fighter and will press opposition's defenders. All his current flaws should be things he'll improve with experience. His movement is his biggest asset, but his finishing needs to improve. He's not ready to move to a club like Manchester United yet, he's loved at Porto (especially by the women) and he should be starting every game so I see no reason for him to leave.
Highlights from the Porto B team:
More recent ones:
And here he is scoring a bycicle kick in the last minute to send the cup final into extra time:
Like @Invictus said, Morata is a good comparison.
Where do they pluck these figures of £51 million from? I'm guessing from deep within their rectal cavities.
Though Porto do have a habit of fleecing teams for every last penny. They're the Portuguese Spurs in that regard.
Though Porto do have a habit of fleecing teams for every last penny. They're the Portuguese Spurs in that regard.
He's very much a Mourinho type of #9, especially similar to his last two teams, I could see us going for him as Ibra will be 36 and I don't think Rashford is Jose's type of #9 and is still very young.
I'm guessing £51M is the conversion of €60M, which is Silva's buyout clause.
I'm guessing £51M is the conversion of €60M, which is Silva's buyout clause.
Been following him for some years now. This season is not a surprise, more of a (late) confirmation
Similar to Morata indeed. He is very complete, albeit not excellent in anything. I'd highlight his work rate, seems to have the right mentality to succeed at the high level
Similar to Morata indeed. He is very complete, albeit not excellent in anything. I'd highlight his work rate, seems to have the right mentality to succeed at the high level
Porto are building him up. Don't think he's ready to step up yet.
A striker doesn't have to be 20 or 35, you know.
A striker doesn't have to be 20 or 35, you know.
Well, ir was about time we got a good one, I'm sure André Silva will be a phenomenal player. Probably already promised to Atletico though.
do you think, I only saw the highlight reel but he looks bang average in there and he's not 18 anymore, he's still got plenty of time to develop into a great player but the asking price for him is a bit over the top but we will see, I am not watching him every week like you so I may be totally wrong
Is that from The Hedge Knight?
Eusebio?
we talking history?
Oh sorry, I thought you meant ever and while CR may not have started as a 9 he is a lot more that sort of a player than the 7 he was. There was a young Portuguese lad hyped up a few years back only around 17 years old, don't think he did much mind..
Either way it has no bearing on how this Andre Silva will turn out
Eder? You forget the Euro final already?
The argument that Portugal hasn't produced good strikers on a consistent basis in recent years has no bearing on the potential of André Silva, IMO. Mostly because you assess individuals and their specific skillsets, as opposed to national stereotypes. The other argument about the Primeira Liga being poor (relative to La Liga, Premier League, or Bundesliga) is fair enough, but again - players emerge from all kinds of leagues, and blanket judgement should be withheld unless you've seen him on a regular basis (at the international level or especially in European competitions - which is a good gauge for players from weaker leagues). eg. Shevchenko in the Champions League while he was a Kiev (not a comparison with Silva, mind), which eventually secured a record bid from Milan.
Wrt. the Youtube compilations bit - that doesn't really focus on the off-the-ball movement or teamwork of players like Silva, and unless it's complied over several seasons, it can be underwhelming for a tactically nuanced/disciplined position like #9 - because these players aren't often going to dribble and pass like other kinds of forwards/creative midfielders. Even Diego Milito's 20 game highlight reel from Zaragoza or Genoa will seem underwhelming because it wouldn't touch upon his ability to occupy multiple defenders and pick the right channels (often off-the camera) - which is what made him such a lethal striker, and instead you'll mostly get a bunch of tap-ins or set piece goals.
Wrt. the Youtube compilations bit - that doesn't really focus on the off-the-ball movement or teamwork of players like Silva, and unless it's complied over several seasons, it can be underwhelming for a tactically nuanced/disciplined position like #9 - because these players aren't often going to dribble and pass like other kinds of forwards/creative midfielders. Even Diego Milito's 20 game highlight reel from Zaragoza or Genoa will seem underwhelming because it wouldn't touch upon his ability to occupy multiple defenders and pick the right channels (often off-the camera) - which is what made him such a lethal striker, and instead you'll mostly get a bunch of tap-ins or set piece goals.
Seems good
This is exactly what I wanted to say, but couldn't find the right words. Great post as usual.
I like him. I'm still convinced Martial is going to develop into a Neymar type forward. Rashford will thus need help up top and this guy seems to fit the ball. Holds up the ball superbly and can finish plus sniff out chances. Reminds me of Van Nistelrooy when we'd just got him.
Yeah, he's spot on. No youtube compilation will really tell you what André Silva is about. Finally Portugal found a striker, we're sorted on the next decade unless he takes a very bad u-turn.
Porto is shit these days, and that is a lot of pressure for a player like André. Yet he not only copes with it, as is clearly our best overall player. Him and Otávio (another player who I think will have a great future) are actually the only reasons why I still sometimes enjoy watching my team.
About time you guys develop a good striker because for some reason Sporting basically develops only wingers
He has been missing too many easy goals.