Played well yesterday with some good saves
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
Yeah, I know it's fashionable to hate the guy but some of the comments in here are truly baffling.
Aside from the corner which he flapped at, Onana didn't do anything particularly wrong yesterday. I'm sorry but if anyone expects a keeper to regularly find one of our players with a long pass when fecking Hojlund is up front then they need to clue-in. It's absolutely impossible when you have a striker who is totally incapable of even challenging for the ball in the air.
Made some flying saves. I was waiting for Dalot to high-five him, but it's just never happened. What's wrong with DD?
Yeah its a bit unfair to be judgeing his passing and distribution when he barely has anyone to pass or distribute to
Not really. He takes too long to make passes and often puts his teammates in tricky situations - especially true for poor Mazraoui, who thankfully is very good on the ball. His 30-40 yard passes out wide are rubbish; even DDG was better at those. His long range passing is erratic at best. With the ball, he's great at finding space and making those short passes into space, and he normally weighs them nicely. When pressed, his behind the teammate passes out wide are rubbish, his long range balls are poor, and his out-wide to his wingback are often over-hit. So yeah, it's an issue, and it's something that I expected he would be brilliant at.
His saves yesterday was bread and butter - nothing he saved was anything he isn't expected to save. Nice to see him punch a save way wide. The punch from Casemiro's deflected header was tricker than it looked, so no real criticism from me there.
Yeah, your critique of his distribution is spot on. It’s so disappointing. That’s the element of his game where I had the highest expectations. Must be nearly a dozen other keepers in the league who pass the ball better than him.
Touché
Basically agreed with all of this, his distribution has been awful at times this season, which is why we bought him in the first place.
Has he actually said that we are “way better” than Lyon? The guy is a complete melon, imagine being in 13th and talking crap about the opposition who you’ve watched at most 3 times this season.
He is very comfortable with the ball, but he takes too long on it. At first, he got players to press him and then he released it quite well, but teams have figured him out, so now they press differently, and because he takes so long, he either passes it behind the wide CB or clears it long. His balls out wide to the wingback is almost the most disappointing part of it as they are so crucial to advancing the ball into space when teams press high. So when his passing isn't even good, forget about great, what's he really about?
Not sure I will ever agree that buying a goalie for the passing is a good move - it's like buying a striker for their pressing. It's a very nice addition to their game, but it's a very wrong move when that becomes the motif.
Onana (regularly) hitting a 60 yarder for Dalot to run into making it one-on-one? You would love to see it, unfortunately my memory is deteriorating...
Vaguely remember some accurate long punts towards flanks but these are very difficult to control in full pelt and to make anything usefull with it, especially when there often is very little support for a reciever after such a long pass. For all the (cheeky) praise from Ped after CL final, it amounted to feck all.
As other posters rightly pointed out, Andres distribution is too slow - so for all those middle/longer range passes, he gives enough time to the opposition to defensively set, to get back into shape. Its almost looking to me like he holds on to ball for some time just to remind everyone He also is on the pitch playing football. Killing any kind of general passing tempo in the process.
Similar with his throws: he likes to keep the ball in his hands for a while longer: maybe he hates grabbing it from his own net when conceeded a goal so when you hold it in your hands in open play, the opposition simply cant score.
Or against Brentford, for example (it’s not on YouTube but it’s findable… Dalot went one on one but keeper saved it).
What is this? Onana defending himself about taking too much time on the ball. He lack confidence to throw the ball out and instead of saying that he will improve, he basically tells us to that he doesn't care what we think. I consider Onana a flop considering we spend more than 50 million on him. He deserves to move back to Italian football. Just get his ass out of United, he is another player that isn't United standard bought by ETH.
@harms
Was he even meant it for Dalot?
Yeah thats a great pass (shocking defensive line notwithstanding). I was questioning that ´reguralry´ point, two or three of those punts per season wont make much difference to a blunt attack at all.
Was he even meant it for Dalot?
Yeah thats a great pass (shocking defensive line notwithstanding). I was questioning that ´reguralry´ point, two or three of those punts per season wont make much difference to a blunt attack at all.Particularly down talking a team who he isn't good enough to play for.
Oh ffs and he's overdue a clanger too. You can see what's going to happen on Thursday night. Really hope he's shown the door in the summer
It's clearly a well-rehearsed move with Dalot making those runs on a regular basis (there needs to be a quick transitional situation for him to do it but he was doing those runs every few games under ten Hag with one of Onana/Bruno/Licha making the initial pass). Again, regularity doesn't necessarily implies that it happens often — just that it happens on a regular basis as in not randomly, it's a tactical pattern (that Amorim doesn't seem to use though).@harms
Was he even meant it for Dalot?
I wasn't saying that this move was going to save our season, yet it was a nice way to generate an occasional goal or two (per season). I've also didn't add "even" before Dalot's name by accident — Onana's main targets were always the attackers on the left flank, be it Rashford or Garnacho (or, rarely, Højlund). The point is, he has a fantastic long pass on him and has an eye for it... yet he hasn't showed even a glimpses of that ability for a good while now, simply hoofing the ball forward.
He used to do it quite regularly. Hell, for a while this season under ETH it almost seemed like our most dangerous way of breaking teams down. The opposition defenders would be covering our attackers, then Dalot would run through as a free man for Onana (or one of our defenders) to hit with the long ball.@harms
Was he even meant it for Dalot?
Don't think it's happened very much under Amorim, which is a bit strange since as a wingback you'd think Dalot would be getting forward even more. Or maybe it's that the defenders can cover him easier now that he doesn't have an actual winger ahead of him.
If only we'd have taken the Chelsea route of signing 17 keepers that are equally shit so there'd be more competition.
Oof!
Shots fired
Took a leaf out of Jose's book there.
Not sure why hes said that about us being much better than Lyon. Very very daft to motivate the opposition in such a way. Especially when you yourself play for a shite team.
Just answer your questions and stay humble.
The absolute fecking melt. I see Matic has given it back to him and it’s fully justified.
Just answer your questions and stay humble.
The absolute fecking melt. I see Matic has given it back to him and it’s fully justified.
Just got smoked by Matic. What an idiot.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...eepers-by-nemanja-matic-after-bold-lyon-claim
Onana, deary me, for the comments.
Matic roasted him.
Matic roasted him.
Today I learned Matic still plays football. He might give Casemiro and Eriksen a run for their money, in terms of being immobile in midfield. He turned like an oil tanker in his last years for us.
His wit is still sharper though as Onana found out.
Which means he comes off like a pompous, over the hill, dick. Didn't Matic win a Euro League with us. If so, shut the feck up about trophies Nemanja. Wasn't Onana saying what any of our players would say, and what probably most of us actually believe, that we are a better side than Lyon?
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Onana howler incoming
Right now, we're in no position to say we're better than anybody. Even if we are, you stay humble, not motivate the opposition like a complete tool.
What did he say?
Said that we're a way better side than Lyon.
Said we're better than Lyon. Whether that's true or not it's not something you should be saying in the build up to a game espeically when you're prone to cock ups
I feel every time Onana opens his mouth he has a shocker of a game. So I'm expecting a fecking whopper of one.
What did Onana say? Is this a true quote from Matic?
Yes it is in response to Onana saying we’re a much better side than Lyon.