Love these sort of posts that aren't grounded in any reality. Absolute nonsense regarding couldn't pass forward or between the lines
Ander Herrera Interview
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Love these sort of posts that aren't grounded in any reality. Absolute nonsense regarding couldn't pass forward or between the lines
Exactly this.
Loved him, brilliant in the art of s**thousery, something we are completely lacking now, although I expect Casemiro to change that the more he settles in.
Another cock up from Woodward.
Another cock up from Woodward.
A player weirdly disliked by quite a few on here despite being one of the better players we had during a bad period and a nice chap who clearly liked the club but saw far inferior players get rewarded with contract extensions when he himself didn't. I mean, the guy was voted our best player in the last season where we actually won trophies, but the club saw fit to offer contract extensions to the likes of Phil Jones and Ashley Young 
. If i was him i'd tell us to feck off and go to PSG too.
Not a world beater by any means but will never forget some of his performances against Liverpool, City, and Chelsea. Him and Blind were two good signings I actually liked.
. If i was him i'd tell us to feck off and go to PSG too.Not a world beater by any means but will never forget some of his performances against Liverpool, City, and Chelsea. Him and Blind were two good signings I actually liked.
Yeah kind of. Well I think Fred is maybe a bit more versatile, but I would say Herrera is the more reliable of the two.
I actually like Fred but on a bad day if you subbed him off the opposition manager would probably sub him back on again.
I think the problem was we just didn't have a plan in general. Woodward decided to just let people run their contracts down and didn't bother to think about the fact we might not be able to sign 8 replacement in one go
We have three worse midfielders than him in our team at the moment and we are short of midfielders. You can argue (in hindisght) that giving him ridiculous money was better than keeping Pogba too because Pogba was always injury prone regardless of his quality and inconsistency.
And at the same time you'll be right by saying he asked lot of money, but then that was our board'd problem for not extending earlier.
And at the same time you'll be right by saying he asked lot of money, but then that was our board'd problem for not extending earlier.
Who?
Feel like that's a bit unfair to him because he did back up his words with effort on the pitch. Not the most gifted player but you can't say he didn't try. I felt like his respect and admiration for the club seemed genuine
Another player we should not have bought
Exactly. The refusal to add to our midfield that summer was farcical.
Herrera was a good player for us. Just because we’ve been shite for ten years doesn’t mean that we collectively throw each player into the bin. Even some of our best players under Ferguson would have been bogged down by the malaise here.
Herrera had lots of great games and worked his arse off. I’d have a younger version back in the squad tomorrow.
Herrera had lots of great games and worked his arse off. I’d have a younger version back in the squad tomorrow.
It's very easily explainable. PSG 'did a Juve' and offered him stupid money to sign on a free in lieu of paying a transfer fee.
Yes, i remember a story at the time the spanish guys were supposedly pissed the club were taking care of the English players. Smalling, Jones, Young, Shaw etcA player weirdly disliked by quite a few on here despite being one of the better players we had during a bad period and a nice chap who clearly liked the club but saw far inferior players get rewarded with contract extensions when he himself didn't. I mean, the guy was voted our best player in the last season where we actually won trophies, but the club saw fit to offer contract extensions to the likes of Phil Jones and Ashley Young
Not a world beater by any means but will never forget some of his performances against Liverpool, City, and Chelsea. Him and Blind were two good signings I actually liked.
The issue was that we waited far too long to offer him a contract extension, then PSG came in with a big offer. We should have tied him down a year earlier on lower wages. Our contract extensions and recruitment have been a shambles though
United's stance on this was unexplainable and illogical. Going into season with midfield of Pogba, Matić, Pereira, Fred which felt even then far from complete.
Valencia also left that time and our brilliant leadership went for Dan James and Wan-Bissaka. Nihilistic decision after another one.
Cleverly is not a patch on Herrera.
This is not accurate. He wanted £200k/w while being offered £60k/w. After he didn't get that, he wisely let his contract run down and signed for PSG.
He was a nothing player regardless, who knew how to feed the fans the "for the shirt" trope.
I like Fred and think he's massively under-rated on here. Nonetheless, I have to admit that when he's bad, he's really bad. Love your second line in the above post.
Fantastic through ball to Juan. Also managed to get Gerrard sent off within 45 seconds of coming on. Legend.
If the club had offered him a contract after his best season in 2016-17, where he won our POTY award and was MOTM in our cup final win over Ajax, it wouldn't have been 200K he was after.
My abiding memory of Herrera is still him being physically picked up by Noble and dumped off the pitch at West Ham.
He is a player who uses his brain too. Remember the Mikhitarian goal in the EL Final? He is the one who decided to stay back and push Mikhitarian forward against the instructions of Jose because Mikhitarian was already on a yellow and could have got a second yellow as he was the player staying back.
Fergie would definitely buy players like Herrera.
Pogba, Dimaria and Lukaku on other hand are the type of players we shouldn't have bought. I have no problem with luxury players but when they think they re already better than the club, it raises a red flag.
I remember that pre season game vs LA Galaxy where we beat them 7-0 and I thought he was the next Zidane.
Had some good moments for us but him allowing himself to be carried off the pitch by Mark Noble summed up the mentality within the club at the time
I think his reaction was more one of bemusement than cowering or not knowing what to do. I'm more pissed a teammate didn't go over and push Noble away.
I loved how he got away with fouling the hell out of everyone in the middle without getting carded often.
Our POTY in 16-17 and excellent in the EL run that season too, playing mostly a destroyer role before Matic came in. He was a good player
Thought he was a middle of the road sort of midfielder. Had decent moments but was mostly average.
I thought psg offered him too much so when we came back, it was too late, but like I said, I’m not sure.
That’s my understanding, mostly, yeah. Always seemed a good professional.
Woodward was the worst thing that happened to this club - at least football wise.
I think he offered almost everything Fred does defensively while offering more offensively. I think Fred is better than him at receiving the ball from defense and turning to make a forward pass (and we all know there's been enough horror moments of Fred being dispossessed in that exact situation to know he's not quite that great at it either) and that's about it. Herrera had a goal in him. His form in 14-15 for a bit with Mata and Valencia on the right was excellent. I particularly remember him being excellent in a 4-0 win over Villa where he scored twice.
Definitely will become a manager at some point. If not, a quality pundit.
I remember his passing being even more haphazard than Fred. Which is quite something. I also have abiding memories of his habit to get in a blind panic when we were under the cosh, lose all composure and repeatedly SMASH clearances up in the air.
Like Fred, he did seem to save his best performances for the bigger games. Which Is a great quality to have. And when he was on top of his game he was excellent. Despite that, he never felt like any kind of solution to our midfield woes. Always seemed like there must be better options out there.
Yeah I agree with that. I think we definitely needed him in 19-20 though and suffered for the amount of games Fred and Scott had to play in his absence. Even 20-21 he could've done a squad role job for us. But for the wages he ended up getting at PSG, the club were right to let him go.
I always remember him spitting on the city badge running out at the Etihad.
I'd say Herrera's problem with United's offer was it was too low more than it was too late.
Herrera was great. If we'd got him earlier and he'd stayed longer he was 100% captain material.
The player himself clarifies things. Lets finally put this to bed
Ander Herrera says he would have “absolutely” stayed at Man Utd if the club had been more proactive in their contract talks with him.
Herrera joined PSG as a free agent upon the expiration of his Man Utd contract last summer, reportedly feeling ‘disrespected’ at the offer of a pay cut to stay at Old Trafford.
The midfielder previously cited “differences” between himself and the club, as well as a failure in communication, as the key reasons behind his departure.
“It was not about money,” Herrera told The Athletic. “It was not about the duration of the contract offer. In my opinion, I waited too long (for an offer) and deserved more attention from the club. I was a player that gave everything.
“I never complained. I never went to the media to complain about anything. I never put a bad face to any manager, to any member of the board, and they waited until I had five or six months left on my contract.
“That’s why I had some disagreements with them. I tell you this but I also tell you that it is part of football, part of life, nothing personal at all. But you ask the question and I give my point of view, as a professional player.”
On whether there could have been a different outcome if Man Utd had handled talks differently, Herrera added: “Yes, absolutely. I thought they were going to come two years before my contract finished, like most other clubs do.
“I expected them to come to sign a new contract after my club Player of the Year award in 2017 but they waited until I had six months left on my contract. I just felt sad. But, I repeat, and I really want you to put this so clear in this interview — that it is part of football, part of life.
“This is only professional and I have no personal problem with them. They had a different idea about the club, about the team, and I respect that 100 per cent. Even if I see Ed Woodward tomorrow, I’ll give him a hug because it is life.
“I had a great relationship with him. He is a very good man but we had some disagreements with our point of views about the team and about the club. That’s it.
“Every time I wore the United shirt, I was so proud. Every time I walked into Old Trafford, I was so proud to be part of that. I remember Sir Alex Ferguson used to travel with us sometimes for Premier League or Champions League games.
“When he is there, you feel this amazing aura, this sense in the room. You can feel how important he has been for the club. On that first day I signed for the club, I was in shock because I was signing for the biggest club in England — one of the top three or four in the world — and Sir Bobby Charlton was there waiting for me at the training ground. My dad (Pedro) was even happier than me.
“In spite of what I told you before, how I was a bit sad for the final two years as they didn’t come to sign a new contract, I don’t have one bad word for the club.”
Ed as usual fecked it up, then spun it as the player demanding too much money