It's only a friendly guys. Maybe wait until we start playing some proper games until we all start losing our shit?
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It seemed inevitable but it makes no sense, a #10 on the RW and a LW at #10 and Herrera on the bench.
Doesn't remotely surprise me. Just can't get rid of the feeling that Van Gaal hasn't taken to him.
he could easily play next to Schneiderlin and be more useful than Carrick, we will need that movement whích Morgan can provide but he's not technically that good as Ander, don't understand if we play this flat 4-4-2(1-1) next season, it won't work, not panicking yet but some serious doubts like with the 3-5-2 formaition which cost us at least 9 points at the end of the season..
Its fecking stupid, thats what it is, just like half of LVG's stupid and pointless tactics from last season.
It does make sense really. Mata has done well on the right, but through the middle Memphis has huge potential IMO and adds loads to our goal threat. He's shown excellent creativity and movement to get in on the end of chances and looks like he'll score or create every game. That's exactly what you want from your 10. Mata on the right doesn't have the pace but he's a very intelligent player and hasn't done badly at all IMO. We lacked pace through the middle and relied too much on crossing and wing play last season, so with Memphis through the middle we have that threat down the middle as well.
I think he's off. LVG just doesnt like him. 
I'm sure he'll be on the bench for next 8 months.
LVG and his stupid decisions, we wont go far with him at the helm!
I'm sure he'll be on the bench for next 8 months.
LVG and his stupid decisions, we wont go far with him at the helm!
He'll get plenty of football next season, keep your shit together everyone.
No he wont. LVG just doesnt like him.
It's not a flat 4-4-2 in any way though. It's a 4-2-3-1 with 2 defensive/holding mids. Just Schneiderlin has more license to roam forward probably while Carrick sits and dictates. The wingers are further up and not wide midfielders either.
He'll be in and out of the team.
Guess he doesn't fit this shape in LVG's eyes, which I can sort of understand. He probably wants more of an attacker rather than a midfielder at #10. Plus it never seemed like Van Gaal rated him quite as highly as a lot of the caf does.
Guess he doesn't fit this shape in LVG's eyes, which I can sort of understand. He probably wants more of an attacker rather than a midfielder at #10. Plus it never seemed like Van Gaal rated him quite as highly as a lot of the caf does.
We could have Ander posing much of the same threat as Memphis in the #10 role and have Memphis providing a genuine goal threat from his natural role on the left, as opposed to having Young there who offers very little goal threat. I just mentioned Mata as he is another example of a player out of position in the formation. He has had some decent games there but he doesn't keep the shape well and is far from an ideal wide player IMO.
If you saw the interview they have just shown on MUTV, Ander is going nowhere.I think he's off. LVG just doesnt like him.
I'm sure he'll be on the bench for next 8 months.
LVG and his stupid decisions, we wont go far with him at the helm!
I love Ander as much as his biggest fan probably, but it's a completely different threat as a 10. Memphis is a much more direct threat on the ball, has that threat from range, can go past players and adds genuine pace. Herrera's best qualities are his quick and incisive passing and interplay, and he's a really smart player, but it's a completely different threat to Memphis. Young has the position on the left locked down currently I think, and he's such a reliable player in terms of effort defensively and has improved a lot going forwards. Memphis will probably be the left winger eventually, but to start off, I think he'll play in the hole while Mata and Young are doing well on the wing.
I'm kiddind but some people are not kidding which is.. crazy.
He may not be a van Gaal favourite, but it's a bit of a surprise to see him omitted from the team given the opposition we are facing. You'd think we'd want to match up in midfield, especially with a player so comfortable on the ball.
If they get over run in midfield. LvG will do his nut.
Strange he's opting for the 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 then if that's the case.
He will do his nut even though he might be the cause. It depend how Barca play and how quickly. I was worried about the Real game last year and we won it. I am probably more worried about us going unbeaten and then having the same start to the season.
I think the key in the #10 role is the ability to feed the front 3, to me Ander's vision and short passing are better suited to that role than Memphis who has barely ever played there, where as Ander played there plenty for Bilbao. As for Young having the LW spot locked down, that is troubling IMO as while he was solid last season we need an upgrade in quality in the role which is what I thought we bought Memphis for.
I worry that Memphis, because he wants to prove himself won't feed the front man but will want to be taking shots all the time. That is the risk with a young player.
We need to get this kid in the team. Switch to 433 - Carrick, Schneiderlin and Hererra. Yes Bastian is a big name but he should be fourth choice atm.
Stewart Gardner and Denis Irwin are saying that this will be the team that starts the season. Did they not just listen to the interview LvG gave.
Depends on the type of #10 you want really. Van Gaal has said recently he wants his #10 to always score or create goals, he see's them more as a goal threat and forward (like Bergkamp for example) then a midfielder I think so that would go with Memphis playing there. Also I do think Memphis is going to be the left winger long term, but while Young is playing pretty well, then it's okay. Also, we are looking to buy Pedro, so our front 3 or 4 will be Mata, Pedro, Memphis behind Rooney, and those 3 can all rotate around.
I may well be burying my head in the sand here, but I still think we'll soon go back to the 4-3-3 formation with Ander playing a major role in the system. He's a dynamic, goalscoring midfielder and Van Gaal fully knows how hard it is to find a player like him. There's no way he doesn't rate him.
I don't blame him if he is. It was dumb from Fellaini, the sending off. Get sent off for reacting to provocation, two harsh yellows or a needed professional foul, not a cowardly, lazy tackle. LVG would have known he was bringing in at least one CM by that stage and Fellaini just made it easier for LVG to drop him.
Basti is better than all 3. He should be first choice, not fourth.
He is when he is in shape, he isn't at the moment.
Is he that much of a goal scorer? I know he grabbed a few last season but I didn't think it was a big feature of his game before then. Plus I'm pretty sure he had a vey high conversion rate last year, so much so that you'd wonder if it was just a unsustainable purple patch.
Well obviously. That goes for anyone.
it is certainly 4-4-2 at some point, not a starting shape though, with winger like Mata it can't get any more rigid. Why can't we play no10 at no10 position, cener back at center back etc?
Too logical.
Some good long range passing that I haven't seen too much of him yet. Should really play in a 3 men midfield
Thought he was nice and neat, not scared to get stuck in and helped out in front of that defence. We have a really good squad.
LVG doesnt love him. He'll probably be sold in the winter.
Don't be silly. We have a really good squad and it could get even better.LVG doesnt love him. He'll probably be sold in the winter.
I must be in the vibe of the place. Leave me be.
I think the ones who came on did us proud. In a way they had the hardest job. To go and score two more goals was the icing on the cake.I must be in the vibe of the place. Leave me be.
LVG doesn't seem to like him. Similar kind of to Di Maria.
The manager probably rates him as a player in terms of quality but the system always comes first, he doesn't really fit the profile of the 8 which is more like a Strootman or Davids (or Bayern Schweinsteiger) nor does he fit the profile of the 10 which is a player like Muller or Litmanen.
As with Mata who doesn't fit the profile of a RW for Louis but has amazing quality he will adapt the role for him but he will likely be a rotation option, he needs to perform better than Schneiderlin to get the 8 position and with Schweinsteiger alongside him I can see him doing that. A switch to 4-3-3 (point backwards) and I can see Herrera being the preferred most attacking central player, I can't see that happening though as even an injury to Depay would probably result in Januzaj playing the 10.
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