Ridiculous what he did in that Southampton corner, has been so unconvincing behind a striker.
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He isn't a ten.
Yep. When Mata and him play there we actually have people who play through the midfield. When Fellaini plays there we seem to skip that out completely.
Around 30th minute he got shoved off by one of their players like he was 10 indeed though.
He needs to gain some muscle mass the lad and grow afro hair.
Maybe I haven't come into this thread much recently, but people used be constantly moaning when he was left out, lamenting that he'd leave etc. Perhaps I'm behind the times? I never saw it at the time, even when he was playing relatively OK, and I certainly don't see it now.
I loved him last season but his fandom is fast reaching Kagawa levels of stupidity. There's always an excuse for why he's shit.
I thought he was terrible in the first half but better when moved into the double pivot, he needs to slow down at times though.
Very poor once again.
You can't even use that excuse anymore. They've played loads of times together lately and they've both been rubbish.
Was today the day when we saw Ander finally succumb to the dark side and go full negative?
Sadly I'm beginning to come around to that idea. Oh Ander.
Yeah, starting to become obvious he isn't good enough for where United need to be. Same as his best mate, Mata. He's at that level where he should be playing for Tottenham, and 40% of the 'caf would be desperate for him, and 60% would think he's 'Tottenham level' and the club could do better.
And the truth is: Herrera would probably not be a favorite of Guardiola or Mourinho, for a few reasons. It just doesn't seem like he's going to be here very long, in my opinion. Klopp would have been a good manager for him, but the two mentioned above.. I just don't see how Herrera fits their respective styles.
And the truth is: Herrera would probably not be a favorite of Guardiola or Mourinho, for a few reasons. It just doesn't seem like he's going to be here very long, in my opinion. Klopp would have been a good manager for him, but the two mentioned above.. I just don't see how Herrera fits their respective styles.
There is no way he or anyone else of our midfielders would get into the current Tottenham starting eleven, Eriksen, Alli and Dier are currently playing at a much higher level than anyone of our midfielders.
He's a bit shit. Seems like a sound fella though.
I think he's just suffering in the style as is everyone else. He's shown before that he's far better then what he's doing now, as everyone else is. He's a brilliant player at his best. Just needs to give him the freedom to take risks with his passing again like when he first came. Van Gaal has basically coached it out of him in order to play him. Not saying he would be starting at the best teams around, but Madrid, Barca and Bayern would all use him as squad players for sure.
Also, he's not a #10 nor a defensive mid. He's a proper central midfielder and needs to play as one. Also why would Mourinho or Guardiola not like him? If anything, I think they'd both love him. He's got an excellent touch on the ball, is a very quick thinker, a good passer and one that is very much suited to play a quick passing game, has a great work rate and isn't afraid to get stuck in, can be creative (or was when he played his natural game, not what Van Gaal is forcing him to do), and can score goals.
Everyone in the team has been shite. People need to stop fecking making these rash decisions on the players or saying they're not good enough. It's all on the manager. He's the one who has fecked up the performances of every single attack minded player we've had in the last 20 months, he's the one who tells them what they can and can't do, where they need to play, and how to play. Herrera was great in the second half of last season, when played in his proper position (as a center mid). He's not a holding midfielder, nor is he a #10 in a 4-2-3-1 system, especially not when there is no attacking intent anywhere else in the team.
lol I think you are even worse when it comes to Fellaini than Walrus.
Very sad to hear that, I think very highly of you.
The way people want to ditch players we will be in a worse position next season. Spend all summer trying to flog players and leave us with no time to replace them. We will be lucky to scrape a side together. We are desperately short of players, we need more players. Yes get rid of Fellaini. Maybe even Mata, let Carrick retire and get some real quality in to use with the ones left. Unfortunately this manager will leave us in such a position it might be impossible to sign top quality. God help us if he is here next season as well. No player in their right minds will sign for us at the moment. He knew we were short in certain areas and he did nothing or Ed did nothing. Those two have a lot to answer for.
Excellent, love this!
Well the difference is I've been saying that about Fellaini since he was at Everton when he was arguably my least favourite player around. I've been pretty consistent in my opinion on him. Anyone can see that herrera has more talent in his little toe then Fellaini has.How many of these combinations over the years have led to goals or chance. They all seem to be some fanciful little passes within a square without moving forward. I know they are beautiful to watch but are they as productive together, seeing during that better run last season it was the left area causing all the problems.
Don't get me wrong I personally like him as a player(10) but the arguments at times don't lend to facts on the pitch.
Big fan but another shit game.
The only manager he has played under here is LvG. I would prefer to see what happens with most of our players with another manager. I still think the manager and his tactics are the problem. All the players are going to rubbish. The only ones playing well are DDG and CBJ. The latter is just a kid and eventually he even manages to mess with their heads. Even Smalling isn't playing as well.
He's not good enough to start for a team at a level we aspire to return too.
He's Ramsey without the goals. Half the player.
Bare in mind when everyone's fit Ramsey is out on the right, not in midfield. Yet this fella is supposedly a top midfielder LvG is hiding?
He's energetic and "gets the club". That's what Liverpool fans get laughed at for their praise of Henderson.
What does Herrera offer? Where is this player who is seen as a saviour?
He's Ramsey without the goals. Half the player.
Bare in mind when everyone's fit Ramsey is out on the right, not in midfield. Yet this fella is supposedly a top midfielder LvG is hiding?
He's energetic and "gets the club". That's what Liverpool fans get laughed at for their praise of Henderson.
What does Herrera offer? Where is this player who is seen as a saviour?
But he was good last year and scored more than his fair share.
He has been unbelievably sideways and negative this season. But yet, he is playing every week now so LVG must fancy this version of him.
The good Ander last season couldn't hold down a place, this shit version is getting game time. LVG eh...
The spanish Tom cleverly. Just to not get banned, ill hide my feelings for now.
Not sure what you thought he was going to be? He was never going to be the main man, but we didn't sign a midfield main man. Also if you think the players we need to get to the top will sign for us, think again. That is going to be a progessive thing and thanks to this manager and his tactics and liking a small squad, so players get shunted all over the place to cover for his transfer deficiencies the progress has been backwards not forwards. That is down to our egotistical manager and C.E.O. I wonder if WonderED will dare come out with any stupid loadsamoney statements this summer.
I think lots on here would accept he should be a squad player for us in the long term.
I wouldn't be too surprised if he thought he was. He has always said he knows it is a squad game here and that he would try to do his best. I think he tries but this manager as someone said prefers the awful way he plays now to the joy he was last season. That say everything about the manager.
The most overrated player on the cafe.
I saw a few people say he'd get in the Barcelona team.
I saw a few people say he'd get in the Barcelona team.
Rakitic isnt much better and plays regularly for Barca. The difference is Barcelona dont expect much creativity/goals from Rakitic, we expect more from Ander.
I expected Ander to be more the one who runs around and harasses people into mistakes for a main midfielder to be the creative hub. That is how he started, running after the ball, hassling the opposition, then LvG told him to stop doing it. You actually need someone like that, so your midfield doesn't get waltzed through. LvG just wanted us to keep the ball. I like a terrier in midfield.
He'd be a very good squad player for them, he wouldn't be a consistent starter. And that's why they were interested in him in the past. He'd fit in perfectly in their style.
That's exactly what I expected and wanted too.
It actually baffles me to think what we would have done with Vidal had we signed him.
His game has dropped rather considerably, but I still think there are many in the side who need to be shown the door before we consider booting Herrera.
Rakitic is definitely better than Ander.
And I consider Rakitic pretty overrated too.
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