American Handball

choiboyx012 said:
can people drop this soccer vs. football crap. no matter how much you diss yanks for calling it soccer, it's not going to change. football here is a completely different sport and is the more popular sport here in the states so nothing will change, we'll always call is soccer, and others will call it football, futbol, futebol, fussbal. just leave it at that. you "brits" gotta cool it and stop being so anal.
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The problem is that most Brits will still not even accept the fact that Rugby is just as much (if not more so) Football than Soccer is.
 
FresnoBob said:
In the summer of 2005, while in England, I saw the term "soccer" used in several national newspapers, including quotes from, among others, a ManUnited fan who credited one of your players from the '60's with saving him from a life of sectarian bigotry and activism in Northern Ireland. In short--British papers and fans also say "soccer."

Please don't give us this bullcrap that "no one in England uses the term soccer." If you don't like the word, excise its use on your island before you lecture others on what they are permitted to call the game.
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Whoa! Bit of fun only. I did stick a Ronaldo Smiley on the end of my message to show I was having a bit of a lark - you obviously didn't see it.

Yes OK, there are some in England who do use the term "soccer" (and in other places like Northern Ireland too) no doubt. However, they've pinched it back from you lot. I would feel confident that there were very few, if any, in England prior to the 1960's who called it soccer.

No, I don't go out of my way to have a go at Americans or any other nationality (except French maybe :angel: ) other than where it's deserved. But it was only a bit of banter to which you should have responded with a bit yourself. In other words "Don't get your panties in a bunch" or as we say "Don't get your knickers in a twist". :)

As for Weastie, yes I am well aware that all these other games have descended from Football or Rugby (i.e. after the 1863 split of the codes in England) or even from things centuries older played in places as far afield as Britain, Italy, China or wherever.
 
WeasteDevil said:
The problem is that most Brits will still not even accept the fact that Rugby is just as much (if not more so) Football than Soccer is.
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I don't understand this point entirely. How could Rugby be more Football than "Soccer"? Rugby split off from Accociation (Cambridge rules) in 1863 after the first meeting of the Football Association. The teams wanting the Rugby rules went off to form their Union, which means it was codified second. There's no way you could argue that there's more use of the foot in Rugby, so I don't get that point.
 
I'd like to see either of them play cricket.
Now thats a mans sport.
 
green demon said:
I don't understand this point entirely. How could Rugby be more Football than "Soccer"? Rugby split off from Accociation (Cambridge rules) in 1863 after the first meeting of the Football Association.
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You got that back to front. The Football Association split from the rest of football first. The schism was forced by the Football Association, before then, the rules were played depending upon what the home team's rules were. The Rugby Football Union codified their handling rules quite a bit after the FA codified their non-handling rules, the fact is however that the handling of the ball has always been evident in the history of the game before formalised codification of the rules.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I'd like to see either of them play cricket.
Now thats a mans sport.
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If I recall rightly, that game at one time didn't have stumps, but rather a small what could only be described as Basket Ball Board stuck in the air on the end of a stick, and a bat that resembled more of a Baseball bat than a modern Cricket bat - I could have dreamt that however.
 
WeasteDevil said:
If I recall rightly, that game at one time didn't have stumps, but rather a small what could only be described as Basket Ball Board stuck in the air on the end of a stick, and a bat that resembled more of a Baseball bat than a modern Cricket bat - I could have dreamt that however.
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I think you might have.
Baseball is a gay version of cricket, and for wimps.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I think you might have.
Baseball is a gay version of cricket, and for wimps.
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Baseball is derived from Rounders which if I have not dreamt it is intrinsically linked with Cricket.
 
WeasteDevil said:
Baseball is derived from Rounders which if I have not dreamt it is intrinsically linked with Cricket.
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I've forgotten what 'intrinsically' means. :nervous:
We used to play a game called rounders in school which was like table tennis but without tables, a net or raquets, and with us running around in circles taking turns to hit the ball.
 
duffman46 said:
Whats with all this wwwoooooooooooo you hear at American football.
America looses a lot of respect worldwide with its "lets make up our own sports" attitude. You must all know deep down that American football is a joke.
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Australian-rules football?
 
marcus agrippa said:
that's all well and good, Ferguson, but i've also been on the receiving end of snide remarks from Yanks who simply refuse to allow me to call the sport i love football, seeing as it makes a hell of a lot of sense to call it that.

so it goes both ways.
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If so, then those Americans are just taking the piss out of you in defense of their own game and culture. Yeah, I watch American sports shows where they complain that soccer is boring, goals are arbitrary etc. They just don't understand the sport or culture of football(soccer) and are showing their ignorance. When Brits talk about how boring or stupid American sports are they are likewise showing their ignorance. Rather than join either group of fools in their folly, wouldn't it be better to recognize that both "football"s can be enjoyed?
 
Ferguson said:
If so, then those Americans are just taking the piss out of you in defense of their own game and culture. Yeah, I watch American sports shows where they complain that soccer is boring, goals are arbitrary etc. They just don't understand the sport or culture of football(soccer) and are showing their ignorance. When Brits talk about how boring or stupid American sports are they are likewise showing their ignorance. Rather than join either group of fools in their folly, wouldn't it be better to recognize that both "football"s can be enjoyed?
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amen, this xenophobic arrogance has to stop
 
Soccer comes from the proper name for football which is Association Football, the 'soc' in association became soccer in England during the late 19th century. I learned this years ago from the Encylopedia Brittanica. Stop laying the blame for your own folly on North America's doorstep you spasticated Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.

Rant over.

http://www.soccerhall.org/ColinJose/Where Did the Term Soccer Come From.htm
 
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