Deery
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Yes I have.Have you watched Diallo play for the U23s? Because making such a definitive judgement based on limited first team cameos would be stupid.
Yes I have.Have you watched Diallo play for the U23s? Because making such a definitive judgement based on limited first team cameos would be stupid.
Dortmund > CelticGot murdered against Celtic a few weeks ago.
This./The guy was bought based on his potential. His potential has be stunted immediately by our fuking obscene way of blooding and loaning youth. We sign players with no plan whatsoever for their development. The fact we were stretching for a good loan for him says it all. Pellistri, VDB, full of potential- no plan. Tuanzebe in nearly 25 and we still don’t know what the fuk to do with him. Gave Williams a bumper contract and kept him on the bench for a season...no young player looking to develop should come anywhere near the club. Bellingham knee the craic and he wouldn’t be half as far along his development had he of joined Utd instead of Dortmund.
Careful....don't mention Elanga on this thread, some people can't wrap their heads around Elanga being more developed than Amad right now .....Is his talent really obvious though? Any time I’ve watched him I’ve never seen anything to suggest he will be a top player. Elanga looks to have more talent..
Apart from speed and physicality, in what element of the game is Elanga better?Is his talent really obvious though? Any time I’ve watched him I’ve never seen anything to suggest he will be a top player. Elanga looks to have more talent..
Of course Elanga is more physically developed and ready for men's football. That's clear to see. Can't fathom how his more talented though.Careful....don't mention Elanga on this thread, some people can't wrap their heads around Elanga being more developed than Amad right now .....
At Dortmund he was utilised in a way where it didn't really matter if he was on the left or the right because he received the ball in the half spaces and he had either the fullbacks, midfielders or the forwards in close proximity to link up with. At United he was being asked to receive the ball in the wide space under Solskjaer, and in that situation you have less options and are best utilised on the left as a inverted left forward to come in on your stronger foot. Dortmund's right winger was Hakimi and provided the width.What's strange is that Dortmund predominately played him on the RW with the occasional switching to the left. But I suspect Ole wanted the 'wingers' and striker to be adaptable and switch constantly ala -- Rooney, Ronaldo & Tevez.
Talent is subjective, but whilst ones starting for United and playing well, the other is a sub for Rangers, I'd say ones ahead of the other right now.Of course Elanga is more physically developed and ready for men's football. That's clear to see. Can't fathom how his more talented though.
I made the same point about Elanga being ahead in his physical development. That's clear, he's definitely more ready for the men's game.Talent is subjective, but whilst ones starting for United and playing well, the other is a sub for Rangers, I'd say ones ahead of the other right now.
What is the bolded part based on? As realistically Elanga is playing at a higher level that Amad right now and not looking out of place. Elanga is no doubt ahead in terms of physical development, but I would say he is also a very intelligent player, pointless having power and pace without making intelligent runs, Elanga does.I made the same point about Elanga being ahead in his physical development. That's clear, he's definitely more ready for the men's game.
Amad has started what though? 3 in 5 games? Not a bad recent appearance record compared to Elanga's really. Nothing to turn one's nose up at.
Regarding talent, it's easy to say it's subjective, but the various elements of footballing ability can be measured. There are many aspects that make a good attacking player. Elanga looks way ahead on two key elements required for the mens game in pace and strength. In most, if not everything else I can think of though (which I've listed in a previous post), Amad definitely looks the more capable. Whether it translates is another matter entirely.
I like both players for the different things they bring to the table in all fairness.
You're ignoring the fact he plays in a position we could've used him in.
Also his talent is really obvious.
He's just been poorly managed.
I hate the existence of the Elanga vs Amad debate. I wanted Elanga more involved ever since Leicester.Is his talent really obvious though? Any time I’ve watched him I’ve never seen anything to suggest he will be a top player. Elanga looks to have more talent..
I've had this conversation before, but training on the pitch on the last day of the window when an agreement has been reached and the only thing missing is a signature is silly. It's not uncommon to skip training on the pitch in such a scenario.I really cannot agree with that. He had limited experience on arrival and was quite rightly given the back end of last season mostly in the U23s with a few first team appearances mixed in which was appropriate for him to find his legs in English football and he looked good. The plan this summer was clear, a season long loan to a good team playing a high standard of football to get him the first team experience he needed and it was all lined up but then he got injured which has set him back. He proved his fitness in the U23s after recovering from his injury and has now joined a team challenging for a league title and playing at a decent level in Europe, where is the issue with how he is being handled? Some people just want to complain for the sake of it.
Which makes it worse.Dortmund > Celtic
Yup.Benched again.
He's the same height as David Silva, taller than Mata, taller than Messi, 1-2 cm's shorter than Salah and Grealish, taller than Foden...He's tiny but very technically gifted. If he grows he'll be. a baller but if he remains so small like Angel Gomez he'll end up mid-table.
Laird last few years, Garner, Chong until he got injured, mengi is playing, Williams at Norwich, levitt at Dundee, Bernard at Hull…with the exception of Pellistri this year has been very good. Amad’s level is very difficult to judge because on the ball he’s top quality, he’s far too good for U23 but it’s the intensity and off the ball he needs work on.Not really sure we ever seem to get a good loan for our players? Garner probably an exception?
Think its been a ok loan tbh. He's started a few games and has been a option on the bench for a major club at a pretty decent standard.
That wasn’t the last game. He played in the Old Firm game and was subbed at half time.The Rangers manager is taking the piss to be fair
Amad got man of the match last game he played. Sure it was against shite opposition.
Now he has subbed in Sakala who also played in that game yet Amad completely outperformed him.
That wasn’t the last game. He played in the Old Firm game and was subbed at half time.
You are forgetting a game. There was a game against Annan FC like a week or so ago. Amad and Ramsey started.
Amad got man of the match
Just left a ball thinking he was offside too…he was miles on.Diallo just pulled out a 50/50 and got a few verbals.