I'm all for giving him minutes against Arsenal. Neither Dalot nor AWB are RB's and Telles has been rubbish.
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Why isn't he getting a chance over Telles.
Shite marking for the 1st goal
Then gives a penalty away
Don't get why Ragnicks now not playing some prospects
Shite marking for the 1st goal
Then gives a penalty away
Don't get why Ragnicks now not playing some prospects
These aren't the conditions to play young players. Elanga is probably already getting heat at the moment. Let's not kill their careers under this toxic group.
Saka would terrorise him.
You don’t know that.
Because he's not even that good of a defender at u23s level, he needs protection if he plays in the first team - which he will not get from these dossers in the team. They'll hang him out to dry.
He's probably the u23s player of the year and your saying he's not even that good at under 23 level.........
Did you see telles defending today, no way this lads worse than that, there's a certain lad at Southampton people want us to sign who's young, and also a lad at Brighton, we may have a few under our own noses yet we l never know if they ain't given a chance
Nothing can be worse than what's in that first team, let's phase them out now and give some young lads abit of experience, absolutely nothing to lose, and the crowd wouldn't get on their backs at all.
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Did you see telles defending today, no way this lads worse than that, there's a certain lad at Southampton people want us to sign who's young, and also a lad at Brighton, we may have a few under our own noses yet we l never know if they ain't given a chance
Nothing can be worse than what's in that first team, let's phase them out now and give some young lads abit of experience, absolutely nothing to lose, and the crowd wouldn't get on their backs at all.
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He’s a bit shite defensively.
As a lot of people have pointed out, when you watch u23 games and even when he was in u18s, defending is not his strong point. At that level he's an okay defender but still gets done for pace or dribbled past a bit too often. Going forward he is great though. I'd put his defending along the levels of Dalot, i.e. not that great. So to stick him im this united team where he will have no protection and come up against even better wingers would be silly.
Precisely
He's a lovely footballer but look how Telles is struggling with his lack of physicality. Playing Fernandez now would be a lamb to slaughter.
Get him in CM before it's too late.
Get him in CM before it's too late.
He does look to have the traits to be one of those fullbacks that transition into cm. Hopefully ten haag has a good look at him during his time here.
This. And within 15mins of his debut, the experts here would have confirmed that he would not have a career at United.
You'd expect he'll get a cameo now that the season is fully over and done with. We usually give the best young player a debut at the end of most seasons I seem to recall
With our situation at LB, and him being the best young player this season, he deserves to play soon. God knows we need it.
Fernandez is not good enough defensively right now, but so is Telles 
Back in those scarcely believable good times when we secured CL football with a few games still to play. As it stands we’re going to be scrapping to try and get any kind of European football at all until the very last day. No chance of any of those zero pressure games where we stack our bench with kids.
From Ralfs comments yesterday it seems as though we're writing off our CL hopes (as we should) and the conference league goes down to 7th. We'd have to lost basically every game to finish 8th. Not beyond the realms of possibility I know.
Plus I wouldn't expect him to start, but a 15 min cameo in a game seems likely with injuries and form at the moment.
One final reason would be a message from Rangnick to the players who he clearly feels let down by
No, but I just dont think it's wise to put a junior defender, who's not the best at defending, into a complete defensive shambles.Fernandez is not good enough defensively right now, but so is Telles
That being said, given there's zero pressure any more, maybe he'll get more minutes.
I agree with you but 10 minutes off the bench at the end might be a good idea, particularly if we're chasing the game.
Yeah, I think he's more than earned that tbf.
Liverpool chucked Trent in when they were a shambles. Not saying Fernandez will end up as good as Trent, but if the other options are rubbish - why not?
I don't think Liverpool were THIS disjointed when Tent came in, but maybe my memory is failing me. Right now our form is in the toilet, I feel like Liverpool's was more spotty, than in the pan.
He does have trouble defensi why but is good going forward. Trouble is, if we put him in the first team and he has a 'mare, he will get written off after about 15 minutes of play by the Red Cafe tricoteuses
I'm not always in favour of loans for our better youth players but I do think he'd benefit from a loan at a club that'll allow him equal opportunities to attack and defend. If he could exponentially increase his defensive abilities I see no reason why he couldn't play first team football someday, but if though. As an actual footballer I think he's brilliant, has a wand of a left foot.
And a right foot to be fair, his first goal was pretty special with his weak foot
Is it possible he could do really well for us as a LB in a Ten Hag team?
I’m curious about this lad. Admittedly not seen as much of him as I’d like but was not aware he was in for POTS.
Anyone who watches regularly like to give us an update? Surely he’s worth looking at given our issues at full back
Anyone who watches regularly like to give us an update? Surely he’s worth looking at given our issues at full back
His pace or lack of it will be a major problem in a league like the prem. Unless he changes his position, I can’t see him succeeding at left back. The image of Telles struggling to catch up to his winger would be a very regular site with this kid.
Watched him twice and I think he’d improve immensely playing with the first team. His football IQ is impressive.
What’s made him so impressive at U23 level this season then? Not the norm for a defender to pick up POTY to my knowledge so assume he’s been quality
He's just a really elegant, technical player. Drops the shoulder to wriggle out of tight situations, great passing range, good vision and a goal threat. A deserved winner of the award.
I thought he was defensively not ready at the start of the season but he seems to have adapted very quickly and improved a ton.
Agree, he looks very good on the ball, has a very good passing range and awareness. I’d say he’s going to have to move into midfield to make the grade and he looks like he has all the attributes to make that work for him.
He reminds me a tiny bit of Trent at Liverpool, in that he's a very good footballer but not a great defender. He strikes me as a potential midfielder, bit hard to describe him really. Might get slaughtered for this but it was like when we played Blind at full back, in that he didn't quite have the physicality but his actual ability to manipulate a football is very good.
I think he is one of those type of players who isn't super fast, raw speed wise. But he is fast with the ball.
I never though pace was such an issue with him.
Does ETH like his inverted FBs? Might be an option for that
If we had Konate, Van Dijk, and Fabinho to cover then I suspect Fernandez would be knocking on the first team door. As it is, despite his talent, I just don't see how this current team can accommodate him. His weaknesses will be amplified and exposed horrifically.
He will end up in midfield. Lahm/Kimmich style
He reminds me a bit of Arnold Muhren a very cultured footballer.