Dumbest opinion I've ever read.
Alternatives for Frenkie De Jong
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Just saying we need a more combative player, regardless of who the manager is, although Ten Hag has pretty much said the same so not sure where you are coming from.
Ability on the ball, Ndidi doesnt fit, not even close.
You need to be excellent on the ball, press resistent and combative.
Yeah he has clearly got a certain type of player in mind for this role looking at that interview
Ndidi is shite mate.
He would be my choice from the alternatives that have already been discussed. The only worry with him would be his injuries. But apart from that, he's a player that provides a class and guile on the ball, without sacrificing the defensive side where he shows a real hunger to win the ball back. His mobility/low centre of gravity also makes him a very press resistant midfielder and he's still only 24. He's also a big game player which helped Milan reclaim the title after a number of years.
There is no "de Jong alternative" but United and its minions should start spouting shite about moving on so we can put the sword to Barcelona and end this nonsense with a transfer.
People will laugh at me but Savage and Iqbal.
Erik clearly isn't looking for that destroyer type of defensive midfielder, so we just have to hope that strategy pays off
So what's your gut feeling on how this is going to turn out then, mine is we could see movement when they get second lever
Promote a youth CM- Hannibal, Garner, etc
Bowel movement?
FDJ is never a DMF, he is more of a box2box MF with good passing skill, so is more like a Pogba alternative. May be less gifted, but more industrial, discipline, and certainly listen more to the coach than his agent. For a direct alternative, we need to look into that aspects. For any alternative, ETH can certainly wider the net for other CM. But agree with you that he is not eyeing for a pure DMF, unless he is good on ball control and passing.
Ndidi is hardly Vinnie Jones
First i'm going to rule some out...
Tielemens - Obvious choice, don't think he's good enough however
Ruben Neves - Obvious choice, think Wolves are going to want a little much for him though
Konrad Laimer - Not even remotely the same and seems to be going to Bayern
Ibrahim Sangare - Not even remotely the same player and I don't think he's good enough on the ball
Here's a list...
Fabian Ruiz - Only a year left on his contract which means he's likely to come cheaper than FDJ (rumoured prices of around 30mill, meaning we can maybe invest elsewhere too. Only just turned 26, and is very similar to FDJ in terms of playstyle.
Nicolo Rovella - Juventus youngster who has been on loan and impressed, a DM that has similar attributes to FDJ, perhaps a little less experienced than Fabian Ruiz but plenty of talent and won't cost that much, rumoured Juventus are looking to cash in
Nicolas Dominguez - Bologna player who just turned 24, would argue he plays similarly to Veratti
Teun Koopmeiners - Great long range passing
Tielemens - Obvious choice, don't think he's good enough however
Ruben Neves - Obvious choice, think Wolves are going to want a little much for him though
Konrad Laimer - Not even remotely the same and seems to be going to Bayern
Ibrahim Sangare - Not even remotely the same player and I don't think he's good enough on the ball
Here's a list...
Fabian Ruiz - Only a year left on his contract which means he's likely to come cheaper than FDJ (rumoured prices of around 30mill, meaning we can maybe invest elsewhere too. Only just turned 26, and is very similar to FDJ in terms of playstyle.
Nicolo Rovella - Juventus youngster who has been on loan and impressed, a DM that has similar attributes to FDJ, perhaps a little less experienced than Fabian Ruiz but plenty of talent and won't cost that much, rumoured Juventus are looking to cash in
Nicolas Dominguez - Bologna player who just turned 24, would argue he plays similarly to Veratti
Teun Koopmeiners - Great long range passing
Imagine signing Eriksen to make McFred work, instead of previous notion of signing a DM to make Bruno Pogba work.
You don't read much, do you?
I think Tielemans would do wonder with United. His play was regressing last year that's true, but I seem to remember that he wanted to move on then, but Leicester priced him out and he got demotivated as a result. In a better team and coach like ten Hag? He probably would do much better than his last season in Leicester.
No, I spend too much time being a contrarian.
No you're not!
Really do hope he goes for a different profile of midfielder if he can't get FDJ. I get his stance on wanting the right players but I think a stance of 'FDJ or no one' should only be made from a position of strength. Our midfield is piss poor and we are light in experienced player. Sure we shouldn't splash big on guys that are not ideal for him but I think doing nothing is ultimately worse than say signing Tielemans and/or someone else.
I think we'll get someone in for the midfield but the comments make me a bit worried that we'll be losing Matic and Pogba and replacing them with youngsters.
I think we'll get someone in for the midfield but the comments make me a bit worried that we'll be losing Matic and Pogba and replacing them with youngsters.
Atlanta Teun Koopmeiners will be a suitable replacement target.
It's not ideal because De Jong is who Ten Hag wants, but a DM that's fairly decent on the ball can be the alternative
Bruno Eriksen
DM
DM
Would be a great addition, but no chance Gerrard would let that happen.
Whatever happened to Florian Neuhaus?
Based on what?
Its going to be McFred again, but McFred under ETH >>> McFred under Ole or Rangnick.
I just don't think he's United quality (as in winning the league) based on the eye test.
Could be proven wrong but i don't really see it at the moment.
Carlos Soler
Yeah with the impasse over De Jong it's hard not to draw that kind of conclusion
We appear to be peeing against the wind with FDJ. He has just bought a house in Barcelona, his family are settled and happy there, He wants to stay at Barca, he's said he doesn't want to come to United, Barca owe him 17 million euros. Why are we trying to buy someone who isn't interested in the club. I despair.
He’s not even close to be categorised as alternative.
Because you shouldn’t believe everything that you read?
Tielemans is very underrated here on the Caf. Would make a superb signing.
Using your logic, I've only read that we want to sign him...so I shouldn't believe that, right?
Should have signed Kamara who went to Villa.
22 year old French International on a free? probably be sold for about 60m in a couple of years.
22 year old French International on a free? probably be sold for about 60m in a couple of years.
I think he is overrated frankly but by all accounts he is very keen on a move to Arsenal and we approached him last season and at least at the time he had no interest in coming here. Maybe ETH is enough to make him change his mind but he does not really do it for me.
The alternative to De Jong is see which ones of Iqbal, Savage, Garner and Mejbri can step up. That being said, I'm mindful of the fact that Tielemans' contract is running out and he'd be a decent McTominay upgrade at a relatively cheap price.
Its a good question. I just have to believe that the United higher-ups know something we don't. They certainly wouldn't spend this much time and effort if they were informed that he honestly did not want to play for us. Right? Right?!?! Someone please tell me we certainly aren't that foolish.