I think he's very overrated to be honest. The sort of player who you don't watch much of but just assume is good due to past performances and hype.
Alphonso Davies | Verbally agreed to join Real Madrid
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Dumping €120m on Hazard, 60m on Jovic and handing out €20m per year contracts to Alaba et al. will make you a bit cautious...
Besides, they do still spend: 50m on Endrick, 110m on Bellingham, 80m on Tchouameni.
Had they not sold Theo they wouldn't even need a LB, but...
A player who’ll thrive under Xabi Alonso in 2025
You think Kompany only makes it one season at Bayern?
If that - but that is unrelated to what that poster was saying.
I think people need to get this right. Real dont want to pay clubs big amounts maybe but like you said, big contracts to Alaba, 100m signing bonus to Mbappe, all throws out the narrative that players sign for them for free because they are Madrid.. They still pay alot.
It was admittedly tongue in cheekIf that - but that is unrelated to what that poster was saying.
But realistically Davies' market is smaller than he and his advisor think. That's why I see a good chance that he stays. Real have extended Mendy and won't pay Davies the €20m he's seeking.City have Gvardiol, Arsenal Zinchenko, Chelsae has Cucurella and Chilwell, Barca has Balde, PSG has Mendes.
Realistically it should be between Bayern and Real since Mendy isn't all that and Bayern has no real alternative on the market. I would swap DAvis for Theo in a heartbeat but who else is there? Dimarco? Udogie?
It was admittedly tongue in cheek
City have Gvardiol, Arsenal Zinchenko, Chelsae has Cucurella and Chilwell, Barca has Balde, PSG has Mendes.
Realistically it should be between Bayern and Real since Mendy isn't all that and Bayern has no real alternative on the market. I would swap DAvis for Theo in a heartbeat but who else is there? Dimarco? Udogie?
Udogie is genuinely fantastic. I don’t think he’s gettable to be honest, unless Bayern are willing to massively overpay, we’re talking crazy money in the region of £90-100m. It’s Tottenham. No one ever signs a top talent from them for a reasonable fee (aside from Modric).
I don’t see why United would be such an unrealistic potential landing spot for Davies, if United are willing to meet his salary demands. I imagine Ten Hag won’t be their manager next season, so whoever replaces him could be somebody Davies fancies working with. Staying put is probably his best option, but if he really wants a new challenge away from the German league, then …
Yeah apart from Hernandez, there's no real top talent in that position currently.It was admittedly tongue in cheek
City have Gvardiol, Arsenal Zinchenko, Chelsae has Cucurella and Chilwell, Barca has Balde, PSG has Mendes.
Realistically it should be between Bayern and Real since Mendy isn't all that and Bayern has no real alternative on the market. I would swap DAvis for Theo in a heartbeat but who else is there? Dimarco? Udogie?
I don't think Utd are going to be that kind of club anymore, the sounds coming from the new regime are that we're going to be much more disciplined when it comes to salaries.
Zinchenko is pretty poor these days, I'd say Calafiori is our starting LB now. I think Davies is better than both of them but I can't see him signing for us without huge wages, which I don't think we'd give.It was admittedly tongue in cheek
City have Gvardiol, Arsenal Zinchenko, Chelsae has Cucurella and Chilwell, Barca has Balde, PSG has Mendes.
Realistically it should be between Bayern and Real since Mendy isn't all that and Bayern has no real alternative on the market. I would swap DAvis for Theo in a heartbeat but who else is there? Dimarco? Udogie?
Fair enough. That's good for United. Finding players and building a team that fits in with Yoro, Mainoo, Garnacho, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Diallo is a good road to go down.
I would assume that Davies wants a "guarantee" to challenge in the CL. And United haven't done that for almost 15 years.
Unless we blow everyone out of the water (which we won't), he isn't coming here. We are a Europa level club.
Surprised that we’re even being linked to Davies. He seems dead set on joining Madrid. I think we’ll ride it out this season with Shaw, Dalot and Malacia at LB and may bring in a cost effective option next summer or hope that Amass is able to make it into the first team.
I missed that. Was that a concrete source or some BS?
It's from Florian Plettenberg. He keeps reporting that we're monitoring Davies's situation at this time. It makes sense as United tend to closely monitor players who will soon become free agents. They did the same with Frimpong until he signed a new contract with Bayer Leverkusen.
Doubt he'd want to come here under Ten Hag. Him and Trent will be at Real Madrid next season.
We have a long-standing issue at LB, he’s one of the most renowned LBs in the game, on an outgoing contract aswell. As unlikely a signing he might seem at this point in time, you’d still expect the club to be keeping tabs on his situation.
Well, I have been monitoring Adriana Lima for about 10 years, so...
Madrid not fancy defending anymore or something?
Who is the "you" in your statement? I've followed his career since July 2016, from the moment he stepped onto the field aged fifteen at BC Place stadium for the Vancouver Whitecaps against Orlando. I've never seen a fifteen-year-old have an impact like that, so immediately head and shoulders above everyone else. Yes, it was the Whitecaps, and yes, it was MLS, but nothing I've seen since, with him playing for the Canadian national team fifty-six times (and he's still only 23) and one of the top club sides in world football in Bayern Munich, has changed my opinion that he's an immense talent. Absolutely nothing to do with hype. You might not have watched him much, and that's clear, but trust me, this player has earned all the accolades he's received, especially given the rough hand he was dealt from birth.
He is/was a huge talent and in his first few seasons he was outstanding. But it's also true that he hasn't developed in the last three years. He sometimes makes horrendous decisions (especially in his defensive behaviour), whether due to nonchalance or poor positioning. He can often compensate with his insane athleticism, but that's not development. In my opinion, he's better again this season. Maybe because he has realised that neither Bayern nor Real will pay him 20m a year. He's a great guy and if he finds his form again I'd love to have him in the team. Otherwise, I hope Bayern at least give Theo a call.
The "you" wasn't specific to that individual poster. It was generic. I agree in terms of natural talent, Davies isn't lacking. I'm speaking from the point of view of a consistent performance level. He's one of those players who casual observers just assume is brilliant week after week because he's great on FIFA or has wonderful stats on Football Manager. He comes with a Galactico type of platform. To give another example from Bayern, the error prone Upamecano is similar. Though perhaps his hype has died down a little in the last year or so.
As you say, Davies is still a young player and I'm not stating that he can't/won't go on to be a top player. Indeed he has shown a very high level at various points in the past. My point was more that he doesn't display that level as consistently as you would think. Generic "you" once more.
When did they?
Fulham's Robinson fits us far better anyway:
- Need someone who's defensively sound because we aren't dominating most teams these days, so we can't have somone like Davies who's far more attacking than defensive
- Need a workhorse because we aren't controlling games and we need someone who can play in chaos ball
- Need someone who has a history of being injury-free because we're all tired of long-term injuries to defenders
- Need someone who can hit the ground running and arguably Robinson is the most consistent Premier League LB for two years running
- Need someone who won't come on a fat paycheck we'll regret for years, Davies would only come if we completely over spent on him
What is the latest on him? Expected this thread to pick up a bit, or is he nailed on to Madrid?
Maybe I'm wrong but I've always felt like he is a player that we will sign.
- He really doesn't seem like a Real Madrid player & doesnt really match their tactics whilst many Bayern fans calls out alot of his weaknesses. Do they play wingbacks? Isn't their RB Carvajal?
- At the same time we have been planning this win the PL by 2028 mentality & I found the fact that we didn't buy a LB this summer weird when we were arguably weaker at LB quite weird; this made me feel like we might have a signing like Davies on a free set up for when his contract has run out
- Ruben Amorim isn't exactly a new manager - we might have analysed his tactics as our potential next manager and realised we do need a wing back on the left.
- Dalot may and should be able to play as a RWB - but I did find Mazroui's signing didn't fit in that mould of a wingback but Amorim's tactics hasn't always been 2 wing backs and sometimes one fullback can be more defensive whilst the other is offensive on the opposite side
- I think the only thing that's holding this signing back is A) Real Madrid do want to sign him & Davies moves there B) Amass is deemed as an exceptional talent but I doubt Malacia is good enough and Shaw is too injury prone to be regarded as a first 11 player anymore an should be viewed as a squad player at LB/LCB. So there is some space for Amass, alongside Davies alongside an injury prone Shaw which seems quite balanced with Amass eventually taking Shaw's position as both ages.
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His form improved over the last weeks, so he might be playing for his next contract… To me, it is still between Real and Bayern. Davies probably received a reality check regarding his possible wages. Allegedly he was asking for €20m.
I don’t think his improved form is due to his next contract coming close. He just fits Kompany‘s style much better than Tuchel‘s.
Do we reckon he’s over the hill in terms of his injury woes?
After dealing with Shaw the last thing we’ll want is a player who spends most of his days in the treatment room.
After dealing with Shaw the last thing we’ll want is a player who spends most of his days in the treatment room.
But he wasn't only crap under Tuchel but kinda for the last 3 years.
We don't really need full backs anymore, we need wingbacks.
Yeah, his record literally looks like he’s passed a hill from the 21/22 season. I’m just wondering wether the nature of injuries he’s been getting are likely to reoccur or worsen as he ages?
It still makes sense. He did have his breakthrough under Flick and Kompany is the first manager to use the same approach again.But he wasn't only crap under Tuchel but kinda for the last 3 years.
To be fair to him, that 21/22 "injury" was Covid with a heart muscle inflammation.
The only major injury was a torn muscle bundle and that is indeed a rough one.
Yep. He doesn’t have to play as much in the middle of the field and he can utilise his speed much more in defense. It makes sense that he’s steadily improving.