All Time United XI
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How the feck has Stam got into some peeps' teams is beyond me all things considered.
Wot,
no Phil Neville??
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no Phil Neville??
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been done before, but here goes:
some i've only seen old footage of.... others like Duncan, Carey etc..i've just heard about.
Pete
Byrne
Stam
McGrath
Carey
Edwards
Robson (captain)
Best
Charlton
Cantona
Law.
-close: Keane.
i think RVN might get in there in future.
here's some info on the players which many of us haven't seen play live:
Roger Byrne
Roger Byrne was a left full-back at United from 1951-58. An inspirational leader he was the great Captain of the famous Busby Babes. Although slighty older than the rest of the babes, he took over as Captain from Johnny Carey.He was one of the new generation brought in by Busby, fast, strong and always in control often using his speed to allow him to come up the wings and participate in attacks.He led United to the League title in 1956 and 57 and played for England 33 times.He was tragically killed at Munich in 1958 two days before his 29th birthday.
Johnny Carey
was one of United's great captains, the Roy Keane of his day. Amazingly versatile he played in every position except outside right, although his favoured position was in defence.His career from 1937-53 was interupted by the War,however he still won the 1948 FA Cup and 1952 League title.He also played for both Republic and Northern Ireland and was one of the greatest defenders of his generation.
Carey was born in Dublin on 23rd February 1919 and was spotted by United's Dublin scout Billy Behan whilst playing for St James' Gate.At 17 he was brought to Old Trafford by United chief scout Louis Rocca for a modest fee of £250. Initially signed as an inside-left, he rivalled Stan Pearson for this position.Supposedly the state of the pitch would often decide who would play, Carey or Pearson. At the age of 17 he made his debut at Old Trafford against Southampton but his career was interrupted by the outbreak of World War Two. During the War Carey served in the Middle East and in Italy and played as a guest player for various league clubs. In October 1945 he resumed his playing career with Manchester United, where he was switched to the position of full-back.
Carey was one of the outstanding defenders of his time.His innovative defensive play including clever positioning and clean tackling. Throughout a highly successful career Carey captained United to the F.A. Cup in 1948 and the League Championship in 1952. Uniquely he played for both the Republic and Northern Ireland, a total of 27 and 9 times respectively. He captained the rest of Europe side which played Britain in 1947, in a fundraising match for UEFA and was voted footballer of the year in 1949.
After making 344 appearances for Manchester United, scoring 18 goals, Carey retired from football in May 1953. He was invited by the United board to a meeting where they conveyed their special thanks to him for his services and offered him a position at the club as a coach. However, in August of the same year he became the manager of Blackburn Rovers. He also went on to manage Everton, Leyton Orient and Nottingham Forest, before returning to Blackburn for a second spell as manager.He died on Febrary 22nd 1995 at the age of 75.
Duncan Edwards
Could he have been the greatest red ever? The prodigious talent of Duncan Edwards was cruelly snatched away from the footballing world when he was killed in the Munich air crash, however not before he had established a reputation as one of the all-time greats.
That he is rated above the likes of Charlton, Best and Law by many of the era is all the more amazing when he was just 21 years old when he died.Virtually anyone who saw him play rates him as their all-time number one.Duncan's fantical practice regime yielded this masterery of the technical aspects of his game. Edwards had immense physical strength coupled with superb ball control and touch.
His passing and tackling was perfect and his shooting was awe inspiring, in both power and accuracy.Not only that, in when it came to aerial battles he was fantastic at winning headers both defending and attacking.In short, Duncan Edwards was the complete player.
Not only did he possess the physical skills but the mental attitude was first class as well.He had great awareness and was brave,commited and determined, yet always composed and sportsmanlike.The great Bobby Charlton said "Duncan Edwards was the only player that made me feel inferior".Sir Matt Busby is once to have said that Edwards was "the best player in the world".He was world class when United had the ball and their best player when the opponents had it.At his favoured wing-half position Duncan lent steel to the defence and given half a chance would ramage into the attack with an unstoppable surging run.
Matt Busby heard of the "man-boy" playing for Wolves in 1949 and brought him to Old Trafford. Edwards began his United career in 1952, playing in the first team at the unheard-of age of 16 and was soon playing for England.At 18 he was the youngest ever to play for England (until 1998) and managed to win 18 caps in a short space of time.He helped United win two consequtive League titles in 1956 and 1957, a great achievement in an era were teams were evenly balanced and champions rarely regained their crown. Leading Uniteds charge into Europe they stood on the verge of being the first British team to lift the European Cup and surely would, have had it not been for the tragedy at Munich.
What would have happened had Edwards not lost his life so tragically at Munich? He probably would have went on to be the most capped England player ever.At times a team in himself, this ultimate all-round player would have up there with Pele, Beckenbauer,Cruyff and Best, no doubt.The fact that he never did, and the world was so cruelly robbed of such a talent remains the saddest legacy of Munich.Today, in a different world to the 1950s, Giggsy, Beckham and co are the glory boys, but anyone who saw Duncan Edwards play will tell you, he was better than them all, and that is saying something.
some i've only seen old footage of.... others like Duncan, Carey etc..i've just heard about.
Pete
Byrne
Stam
McGrath
Carey
Edwards
Robson (captain)
Best
Charlton
Cantona
Law.
-close: Keane.
i think RVN might get in there in future.
here's some info on the players which many of us haven't seen play live:
Roger Byrne
Roger Byrne was a left full-back at United from 1951-58. An inspirational leader he was the great Captain of the famous Busby Babes. Although slighty older than the rest of the babes, he took over as Captain from Johnny Carey.He was one of the new generation brought in by Busby, fast, strong and always in control often using his speed to allow him to come up the wings and participate in attacks.He led United to the League title in 1956 and 57 and played for England 33 times.He was tragically killed at Munich in 1958 two days before his 29th birthday.
Johnny Carey
was one of United's great captains, the Roy Keane of his day. Amazingly versatile he played in every position except outside right, although his favoured position was in defence.His career from 1937-53 was interupted by the War,however he still won the 1948 FA Cup and 1952 League title.He also played for both Republic and Northern Ireland and was one of the greatest defenders of his generation.
Carey was born in Dublin on 23rd February 1919 and was spotted by United's Dublin scout Billy Behan whilst playing for St James' Gate.At 17 he was brought to Old Trafford by United chief scout Louis Rocca for a modest fee of £250. Initially signed as an inside-left, he rivalled Stan Pearson for this position.Supposedly the state of the pitch would often decide who would play, Carey or Pearson. At the age of 17 he made his debut at Old Trafford against Southampton but his career was interrupted by the outbreak of World War Two. During the War Carey served in the Middle East and in Italy and played as a guest player for various league clubs. In October 1945 he resumed his playing career with Manchester United, where he was switched to the position of full-back.
Carey was one of the outstanding defenders of his time.His innovative defensive play including clever positioning and clean tackling. Throughout a highly successful career Carey captained United to the F.A. Cup in 1948 and the League Championship in 1952. Uniquely he played for both the Republic and Northern Ireland, a total of 27 and 9 times respectively. He captained the rest of Europe side which played Britain in 1947, in a fundraising match for UEFA and was voted footballer of the year in 1949.
After making 344 appearances for Manchester United, scoring 18 goals, Carey retired from football in May 1953. He was invited by the United board to a meeting where they conveyed their special thanks to him for his services and offered him a position at the club as a coach. However, in August of the same year he became the manager of Blackburn Rovers. He also went on to manage Everton, Leyton Orient and Nottingham Forest, before returning to Blackburn for a second spell as manager.He died on Febrary 22nd 1995 at the age of 75.
Duncan Edwards
Could he have been the greatest red ever? The prodigious talent of Duncan Edwards was cruelly snatched away from the footballing world when he was killed in the Munich air crash, however not before he had established a reputation as one of the all-time greats.
That he is rated above the likes of Charlton, Best and Law by many of the era is all the more amazing when he was just 21 years old when he died.Virtually anyone who saw him play rates him as their all-time number one.Duncan's fantical practice regime yielded this masterery of the technical aspects of his game. Edwards had immense physical strength coupled with superb ball control and touch.
His passing and tackling was perfect and his shooting was awe inspiring, in both power and accuracy.Not only that, in when it came to aerial battles he was fantastic at winning headers both defending and attacking.In short, Duncan Edwards was the complete player.
Not only did he possess the physical skills but the mental attitude was first class as well.He had great awareness and was brave,commited and determined, yet always composed and sportsmanlike.The great Bobby Charlton said "Duncan Edwards was the only player that made me feel inferior".Sir Matt Busby is once to have said that Edwards was "the best player in the world".He was world class when United had the ball and their best player when the opponents had it.At his favoured wing-half position Duncan lent steel to the defence and given half a chance would ramage into the attack with an unstoppable surging run.
Matt Busby heard of the "man-boy" playing for Wolves in 1949 and brought him to Old Trafford. Edwards began his United career in 1952, playing in the first team at the unheard-of age of 16 and was soon playing for England.At 18 he was the youngest ever to play for England (until 1998) and managed to win 18 caps in a short space of time.He helped United win two consequtive League titles in 1956 and 1957, a great achievement in an era were teams were evenly balanced and champions rarely regained their crown. Leading Uniteds charge into Europe they stood on the verge of being the first British team to lift the European Cup and surely would, have had it not been for the tragedy at Munich.
What would have happened had Edwards not lost his life so tragically at Munich? He probably would have went on to be the most capped England player ever.At times a team in himself, this ultimate all-round player would have up there with Pele, Beckenbauer,Cruyff and Best, no doubt.The fact that he never did, and the world was so cruelly robbed of such a talent remains the saddest legacy of Munich.Today, in a different world to the 1950s, Giggsy, Beckham and co are the glory boys, but anyone who saw Duncan Edwards play will tell you, he was better than them all, and that is saying something.
Bryan Robson:
Bryan Robson was the leading midfield player in British football during the 1980s.A player of unrivalled committment and determination he was the driving force behind the entire United team.It was often said Manchester United were a "one man team", being totally reliant on Robson for success. Whenever he was on the pitch United were serious Championship challengers, without him they always struggled.Robbo was the difference between class and mediocrity.
A superb ball-winner and tackler,who could shrug off opponents and make surging runs to drive United forward, Robson was the ultimate leader and captain. Sometimes the rest of the team would say "C'mon Robbo, win it for us" and there are not many players you can ask of that.Unfortunatley this total unflinching commitment led to him being injured, often out for crucial games, which, in the end undoubtedly denied United the chance of title glory in the 80's.
Born in Chester-le-Street he began his career with West Bromwich Albion in 1974 and transferred to Manchester United in 1981 for a then record transfer fee of £1.7 million.A fee that in hindsight was worth every penny, if only Ron Atkinson's other signings had have been so shrewd.
He became the first British captain to lead a side to three FA Cup wins (1983, 1985, 1990), Robbo inspiring United with two goals in the cup final replay against Brighton in 1982. Robson also won the Cup-Winners Cup in 1991 and finally won the League Championship in 1993 and 94. He also appeared in the 1982, 1986, and 1990 World Cup finals. Dogged by those cursed injuries for much of his career, he nevertheless won 90 international caps (mostly as captain) and scored 26 international goals.
A real leader of men, many rival fans would have loved to have had him in their team, but despite all the offers from Italy and elsewhere he remained loyal to United,the only club he ever wanted to play for. A great example of his leadership was in a Cup-winners cup game against Barcelona in 1984 when United 2-0 down from the first leg came back to win 3-0 at Old Trafford, Robson getting 2 goals.When it became clear he could no longer hold a place in the United title winning sides of 93 and 94, perhaps reluctantly he bid farewell to United.
After leaving in 1994 he took over as player manger of Middlesbrough,and after a series of relegations and promotions they are currently one of the Premier League's better sides.Many United fans believe that one day he will return as United manager when he has proved himself to be as great a manger as he was a player.
After twelve long years of toiling and battling, in 1993 Robson finally was a champion, as United won the League Championship,the holy grail that had eluded them and him so long. The next year they won it again, by which time Robson's influence was on the wane.Robson left United and Old Trafford in May 1994, holding the Premier League Trophy aloft, a fitting end to the United career of "Captain Marvel", the man who was Manchester United during the 1980s and forever a United legend.
they don't come better than him!!! <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Bryan Robson was the leading midfield player in British football during the 1980s.A player of unrivalled committment and determination he was the driving force behind the entire United team.It was often said Manchester United were a "one man team", being totally reliant on Robson for success. Whenever he was on the pitch United were serious Championship challengers, without him they always struggled.Robbo was the difference between class and mediocrity.
A superb ball-winner and tackler,who could shrug off opponents and make surging runs to drive United forward, Robson was the ultimate leader and captain. Sometimes the rest of the team would say "C'mon Robbo, win it for us" and there are not many players you can ask of that.Unfortunatley this total unflinching commitment led to him being injured, often out for crucial games, which, in the end undoubtedly denied United the chance of title glory in the 80's.
Born in Chester-le-Street he began his career with West Bromwich Albion in 1974 and transferred to Manchester United in 1981 for a then record transfer fee of £1.7 million.A fee that in hindsight was worth every penny, if only Ron Atkinson's other signings had have been so shrewd.
He became the first British captain to lead a side to three FA Cup wins (1983, 1985, 1990), Robbo inspiring United with two goals in the cup final replay against Brighton in 1982. Robson also won the Cup-Winners Cup in 1991 and finally won the League Championship in 1993 and 94. He also appeared in the 1982, 1986, and 1990 World Cup finals. Dogged by those cursed injuries for much of his career, he nevertheless won 90 international caps (mostly as captain) and scored 26 international goals.
A real leader of men, many rival fans would have loved to have had him in their team, but despite all the offers from Italy and elsewhere he remained loyal to United,the only club he ever wanted to play for. A great example of his leadership was in a Cup-winners cup game against Barcelona in 1984 when United 2-0 down from the first leg came back to win 3-0 at Old Trafford, Robson getting 2 goals.When it became clear he could no longer hold a place in the United title winning sides of 93 and 94, perhaps reluctantly he bid farewell to United.
After leaving in 1994 he took over as player manger of Middlesbrough,and after a series of relegations and promotions they are currently one of the Premier League's better sides.Many United fans believe that one day he will return as United manager when he has proved himself to be as great a manger as he was a player.
After twelve long years of toiling and battling, in 1993 Robson finally was a champion, as United won the League Championship,the holy grail that had eluded them and him so long. The next year they won it again, by which time Robson's influence was on the wane.Robson left United and Old Trafford in May 1994, holding the Premier League Trophy aloft, a fitting end to the United career of "Captain Marvel", the man who was Manchester United during the 1980s and forever a United legend.
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