All Time Premier League Fantasy Draft: QF - Gio vs bleezy | Penalties

With players at peaks in the teams indicated, who will win?


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......................................Team Gio.....................................................................................................Team bleezy.........................................

TEAM GIO

TACTICS:

Our 4-3-3 is based around Mourinho's 2004-2006 Chelsea winning machine that raised the bar in the Premier League. Alongside that tactical model we have chosen the majority of our players from the era when the Premier League was its most competitive on the continent, with 9 of our starters hitting their peak during the 2000s. Anyone from outside that timeframe has importantly proven their credibility at World Cups.

At the heart of our defence we pair together the sole two defenders who have ever won the Premier League Player of the Season award in Nemanja Vidic and Vincent Kompany. Vidic's performance level has been such that he has won the award twice and he was the beating heart behind United's great team of the late 2000s. Alongside him is Kompany who was three times in the PFA Team of the Year and part of the ESM European Team of the Year in 2011/12, and a huge reason behind City's success since 2010. Together they form an impressive and influential central defensive partnership. On the right of the back four is Dan Petrescu who was part of the Overseas Premiership Team of the Decade and remains the standout overlapping right-back. Proven at every stage, from his early career reaching European Cup Finals with Steau Bucharest, to the 1990, 1994 and 1998 World Cups, to his time in England (1.5 seasons at Sheffield Wednesday and a further 5 at Chelsea). On the opposite flank is Jan Vertonghen who was part of the 2012/13 PFA Team of the Year and can naturally tuck in as a third defender if Petrescu moves forward. That quality is likely to be particularly useful when up against the inside-cutting Alexis Sanchez. Behind the defence is one of the Premiership's greatest in Edwin Van der Sar whose excellent reading of the gameenabled him to operate as one of the best keepers in Europe until his late 30s.

The midfield is carefully crafted around getting the best out of Steven Gerrard who has the freedom to dictate from his favoured central/right channel and bomb forward beyond a relatively lightweight midfield. A record 8 times in the PFA Team of the Year, Gerrard was good for over 20 goals a campaign as he did three times in four seasons during the mid-to-late 2000s. Perhaps the most talismanic player the Premiership has seen, with the right midfield platform he was nigh-on unstoppable in his prime and won so many games that his otherwise underwhelming Liverpool sides had no right to win. Alongside him is the great Patrick Vieira. He was an ever-present in the PFA Team of the Year for 6 consecutive seasons, winning the Premier League Player of the Year award in 2000/01 and a colossal tour de force behind two great Arsenal teams. In this match he is likely to control the game by dominating both through his physicality and by imposing his class through his reliable passing and telling early balls forward. That swashbuckling pair are perfectly supported by the standout midfield anchor Claude Makelele whose selflessness and discipline absolutely maximised the ability of Frank Lampard and somehow gelled a top-heavy collection of Galacticos attackers into a functioning midfield. Against today's opposition, this trio should boss the match.

Our front three is led by Arsenal's Emmanuel Adebayor, whose 24 goals in 36 Premier League games in 2007/08 showed what he could do when fit and motivated. What he also brings to the table is bristling strength and hulking hold-up play and the kind of threat that Rio and Kolo will not enjoy facing. Supporting him from the right is Carlos Tevez whose diligent endeavour, hustle and goal threat makes him a perfect contributor to a front three as he showcased so effectively in United's 4-3-3. Importantly here he is a bad match for Le Saux who will struggle with his grizzle and endless running. Offering the genuine wingplay and wide threat is Arjen Robben who was "often unplayable at times" with his searing pace and ability to beat a man. He should have the beating of Arbeloa here and was a crucial component in Mourinho's 4-3-3 both in providing proper width and creating space for midfield runners and central attackers.

WHY WE WILL WIN:
  1. We will win the midfield battle. Mascherano is going to be working overtime scrambling around after everyone. Makelele should have Van der Vaart in his pocket. Peak Vieira will have the beating of Chelsea Fabregas. And Gerrard will storm through the lot of them: he has the perfect platform to burst forward. It's an imposing and dominating midfield up against a tidy but lightweight one.
  2. Our attack will get the better of Bleezy's defence. Robben should outstrip Arbeloa and create a number of chances. Although Ferdinand is a class act, Adebayor has previous in getting the better of him and isn't the sort of attacker Rio will relish coming up against. Le Saux will find Tevez's aggression, graft and physicality a struggle.
  3. We have a defence that can match up to Bleezy's impressive attack. We have two centre-halves from the top tier which is precisely what you want against Aguero. Dan Petrescu is also from that top bracket and, as well as being a penetrative outlet going forward, is a cut above what Hazard usually faces in the Premier League. Tactically it works as Vertonghen will tuck right in, almost operating as a third centre-back, to squeeze out the space for Sanchez.
  4. Crucially we don't just leave the back four to get on with it, we have Makelele patrolling in front of them which will be especially important given Hazard and Sanchez's tendency to cut inside. We also have Vieira and Gerrard offering further support. Ultimately as a unit we're significantly better defensively than the opposition.
 
TEAM BLEEZY

Overview


  • My team is playing a modern PL style, 4-3-3/4-2-3-1, with plenty of ball players in the team mixed with frightening pace, energy and goal threat.
  • We have a defensively sound back four, protected by a terrier in Mascherano, and with the greatest keeper in the draft behind them.
  • The attack can hurt the opposition in almost every way imaginable. Creativity from deep, pace, power, late runs in to the box, deadly finishing, individual genius - you name it, my front five can do it.

Defence

  • In Peter Schmeichel, I have the best goalkeeper of the Premier League era. A great shot-stopper, dominating in his box and a brilliant organiser. Schmeichel will ensure the defence keeps its shape and will not shy away from a physical battle on crosses and set pieces.
  • The centrepiece of the defence is a Rolls Royce of a defender, Rio Ferdinand. Six titles and six times in the team of the year, Rio is more than good enough to keep the erratic Adebayor quiet. Alongside him is half of the Invincible Arsenal centre defence, Kolo Toure. Kolo posseses pace, power and is comfortable on the ball. Together, they'll form a formidable partnership, both having kept great attackers quiet in the past and can do so again today.
  • The full backs, Arbeloa and Le Saux are both defensively strong and will be asked to stay in position and form a solid back four. Robben and Tevez will not track back, so Arbeloa and Le Saux know their role in keeping tight to them.
Midfield
  • Javier Mascherano will be on his ex-teammate, Steven Gerrard, like a rash. Hard working, tenacious and never one to back down, Mascherano provides bite to the midfield and will stamp his authority on the game.
  • Fabregas assisted 18 goals in the league last season, and will operate in the same role that he occupies for Chelsea next to a strong defensive midfielder. Cesc is by far the best playmaker on the pitch and the most comfortable on the ball. He'll use this to control possession, starting off attacks from deep, joining the attack, and will prove a tough match for his ex-partner Vieira. He also provides bite of his own in midfield, not afraid to get involved in a battle and definitely not shy in putting in a tackle. With the quality of attacking talent ahead of him, all Cesc needs is a second to pick one of them out and Gio's side will be on the backfoot.
  • Rafael van der Vaart will be tucked slightly deeper in to midfield when defending, but move into the role of number 10 in attack, swapping positions with the wingers when they come inside, or arriving late in the box to prove a genuine goal threat. Rafa scored 24 goals in two league seasons for Spurs, assisting a further 15. He is another player very comfortable on the ball, and with Hazard and Sanchez drawing out Makelele and/or their full back, it'll create space for van der Vaart.
Attack

  • The three best players in the Premier League at the moment, all playing together. Between them, they scored 56 goals between them last season (76 in all comps) and individually were a nightmare for any marker. Together, they have far too much pace for Gio's defence to handle and each has the ability to change the game single-handedly.
  • Eden Hazard, current Player of the Year, and Alexis Sanchez, will start nominally from the wings but have freedom to interchange and pop up anywhere. Both are confident anywhere across the top, and on either side of Makelele, will make it hard for him to know which one to track.
  • Sergio Aguero will play on the shoulder of Vidic, exploiting his lack of pace much like Fernando Torres did. Tucked in between him and Vertonghen, Aguero will keep them both busy with his workrate, clever movement and when he gets a sniff of goal, his incredible finishing. Aguero has 78 goals in 120 league games and was top scorer last season.
 
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Sorry, one more. Could you please help to put up a poll? Thanks

With players at peaks in the teams indicated, who will win?
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What a bloody game!

This is going to be tough.
 
Both have great keepers. Both have 2 great defenders and 2 questionable ones. Gio shades the midfield and Bleezy shades the attack. Really close this.
 
Aguero against that backline strikes as a bit of a worry, to begin with.

Great match up though, bleezy has the worry of getting out muscled in the middle there.
 
Both have great keepers. Both have 2 great defenders and 2 questionable ones. Gio shades the midfield and Bleezy shades the attack. Really close this.
Fair assessment. Although I think we have a stronger defence. Obviously Rio's great, Le Saux's good, but Petrescu's got previous in getting the better of him, outrunning and outmuscling him to grab the 90th minute winner in France '98.

 
Does Tevez and Robben need to interchange?Have mostly seen Tevez on left and Robben on right.
 
Both teams are more even than I had thought. Bleezy has quite quietly built a very decent side
Aye, in fairness to Bleezy he flew under the radar a little to pull together a really nice side here.
 
Does Tevez and Robben need to interchange?Have mostly seen Tevez on left and Robben on right.
They're comfortable on both sides and both have played on both sides throughout their time in the Premier League, often switching during games. Certainly Mourinho had Robben and Duff swapping quite often, while Tevez often deferred to wherever Ronaldo felt like attacking from in United's front three.
 
Needs to upgrade Van Der Vaart badly though. Could cost him here
And he could have easily had Bergkamp there. :(

Not to hold that against him or anything, Hazard's a nice upgrade as well and fits in really well with the modern style PL players around him. That's a very deadly front three full of bags of tricks and pace and against not so quick backline (both physically and mentally) there's a goal there at least.
 
It's an imposing and dominating midfield up against a tidy but lightweight one.

I have to agree with this. And it will make the difference. Front trio(s) is advantage bleezy for my money (this isn't Robben in his best incarnation, and Aguero has Adebayor's number), but Gio's midfield is superior in every sense. The icing on the cake is the sheer attacking threat of Slippy - who will be able to play just about his best brand of football here.
 
Needs to upgrade Van Der Vaart badly though. Could cost him here
Frankly I'm delighted he didn't go for Bergkamp. Makelele should swallow up Van der Vaart relatively comfortably here, but a battle with Bergkamp would've been a far more testing affair.
 
They're comfortable on both sides and both have played on both sides throughout their time in the Premier League, often switching during games. Certainly Mourinho had Robben and Duff swapping quite often, while Tevez often deferred to wherever Ronaldo felt like attacking from in United's front three.
Yep,they interchanged a lot during the course of the match.
 
Frankly I'm delighted he didn't go for Bergkamp. Makelele should swallow up Van der Vaart relatively comfortably here, but a battle with Bergkamp would've been a far more testing affair.
With Aguero ahead of him, almost as deadly as his partnership with Henry.

Anyway, he still has a kickass team and I can also see the rationale behind picking Hazard.
 
This game looks like quite a battle, Van der Sar vs Schmeichel, great defences, great midfields and great attacks.

Big question marks for me here is Robben vs Arbeloa and Aguero vs Vidic. No matter how much I liked Vidic I can't forget how Torres played with him, and Aguero is the same style of player (only better) in my mind. I see Aguero toying with Vidic/Kompany as more likely than Adebayor doing the same against Toure/Ferdinand. I might underrate Adebayor though

Gio's midfield is the better one, but that might play to bleezy's strenght aswell. Hazard/Aguero/Sanchez counter-attacking against defenders not 100% known for their pace (once again, feel free to prove me wrong). They have Makelele there though, so starting the counter attack should be hard.

Will have to wait to vote to see how this plays out, for me it is an extremely even match and irl it wouldn't suprise me if the keepers made it 0-0
 
I think the gap between Vidic and Vertonghen is a weak point for Gio, and the pace of Alexis and Aguero could really exploit that.

Robben and Tevez will not want to track back, so having Alexis and Hazard attacking the full backs will commit Makelele to help out a lot, which I think is where van der Vaart is very important here. Starting from a bit deeper, he will be helping to start attacks but running into the box - where he scored most of his 24 goals for Spurs. A look at this video below shows what he'll be doing. A quick give and go - Fabregas and van der Vaart are the two most comfortable players on the ball on the pitch and would be able to use quick touches to bypass the pressure of Vieira - and a surging run into the box with a brilliant finish. Makelele, as great as he is, will have the problem of thinking whether to track him, or worry about Hazard and Sanchez either side isolating one of the back four.

 
@bleezy why not Malouda instead Vdv? He was far the better player and his best season for chelsea was in the hole.....
 
I think the gap between Vidic and Vertonghen is a weak point for Gio, and the pace of Alexis and Aguero could really exploit that.
As instructed above, Vertonghen is tucking in effectively operating as a third centre-back. Sanchez and Hazard will both be inclined to cut inside, so we can defend narrow. It suits Vertonghen to do that, both because he can play in the middle and at full-back, and because Arbeloa won't offer any genuine overlapping threat. That space will be closed out.
 
As instructed above, Vertonghen is tucking in effectively operating as a third centre-back. Sanchez and Hazard will both be inclined to cut inside, so we can defend narrow. It suits Vertonghen to do that, both because he can play in the middle and at full-back, and because Arbeloa won't offer any genuine overlapping threat. That space will be closed out.
He's perfect there in terms of his playing style, but how well can he deal with the threat is the question. Certainly seems like a weak link at this stage.
 
He's perfect there in terms of his playing style, but how well can he deal with the threat is the question. Certainly seems like a weak link at this stage.
He'll do a steady job there because he's a good fit. Scope to upgrade him for sure.
 
With Bergkamp I would've certainly voted for bleezy here :(
 
Gios attack is bit of an eye sore. Maybe that's too harsh but there are question marks over year player of that trio. Bleezy would gave this won if he could play cesc as head of mf 3 and someone to partner mascherano. But with current trio, it is gonna be a struggle
 
Gios attack is bit of an eye sore. Maybe that's too harsh but there are question marks over year player of that trio. Bleezy would gave this won if he could play cesc as head of mf 3 and someone to partner mascherano. But with current trio, it is gonna be a struggle

he can put Malouda in place of Vdv or Malouda on the right with Alexis in the middle....both setups better then the current one.
 
Gios attack is bit of an eye sore. Maybe that's too harsh but there are question marks over year player of that trio. Bleezy would gave this won if he could play cesc as head of mf 3 and someone to partner mascherano. But with current trio, it is gonna be a struggle

Agreed, Gio's attack is very underwhelming at this point, but his midfield is giving him the upper hand. Question is: who will score more, bleezy's men countering in space or Gio putting that defence under sustained pressure?
 
@bleezy why not Malouda instead Vdv? He was far the better player and his best season for chelsea was in the hole.....

The Chelsea quota is taken up with Hazard and Cesc. I don't think there's much difference between Malouda and van der Vaart here - stats wise they scored the exact same number of goals in that season. But VDV is playing in a system he is used to. He played in a 4-3-3/4-4-1-1 formation with pace on the wings (Bale vs. Hazard/Alexis), a creative player behind (Modric vs. Fabregas) and a lone striker in front (Defoe/Crouch/Pavlyuchenko vs. Aguero). He's got better players all around him, and would perform even better as a result. Malouda was used differently and had more legs behind him to help him play as he wanted to (Essien, Ramires, Mikel all played more games than Lampard that season). It might have been a better sounding name for the scan voters but I don't think it'd have worked quite as well in real life as VDV would in this set up.
 
As instructed above, Vertonghen is tucking in effectively operating as a third centre-back. Sanchez and Hazard will both be inclined to cut inside, so we can defend narrow. It suits Vertonghen to do that, both because he can play in the middle and at full-back, and because Arbeloa won't offer any genuine overlapping threat. That space will be closed out.

I don't know how good of a tactic tucking in is, when there's nobody to cover the rest of the wing. Robben will be waiting upfield rather than tracking back, and Vertonghen trying to tuck in and make it tight leaves a lot of open space on the wing. Sanchez won't cut in every minute of the 90 - he's a clever player and if there's space to exploit, he'll stay out wide to do so. If Hazard comes inside and VDV is in the area, Sanchez would stay wider so it doesn't get too congested.
 
The Chelsea quota is taken up with Hazard and Cesc. I don't think there's much difference between Malouda and van der Vaart here - stats wise they scored the exact same number of goals in that season. But VDV is playing in a system he is used to. He played in a 4-3-3/4-4-1-1 formation with pace on the wings (Bale vs. Hazard/Alexis), a creative player behind (Modric vs. Fabregas) and a lone striker in front (Defoe/Crouch/Pavlyuchenko vs. Aguero). He's got better players all around him, and would perform even better as a result. Malouda was used differently and had more legs behind him to help him play as he wanted to (Essien, Ramires, Mikel all played more games than Lampard that season). It might have been a better sounding name for the scan voters but I don't think it'd have worked quite as well in real life as VDV would in this set up.

im not talking stats wise, Malouda at his best was twice the player Vdv ever was, one of the most overrated players ever.....no wonder Spurs got in CL when he was injured and Kranjcar played in his place.
What i would have done is sacrifice Toure for a lesser cb(you would be fine, enough protection, Rio to partner him + you are against Ade and not some goat EPL striker) cb and then go for Arsenal Cesc who is much better player then Chelsea version and then you get free place for Malouda who is perfect team and balance player, which is very important as you also have Alexis in the side.
As for scan voters, Vdv is obviously a much bigger and attractive name then Malouda.....
 
Gios attack is bit of an eye sore. Maybe that's too harsh but there are question marks over year player of that trio. Bleezy would gave this won if he could play cesc as head of mf 3 and someone to partner mascherano. But with current trio, it is gonna be a struggle
If we're questioning Adebayor or Robben in terms of sustained Premiership performances, then Sanchez has one season and Van der Vaart has two. So we either judge them on their prime level or we factor in longevity. And while I'd acknowledge there is scope to improve the front three, there are similar issues on both sides with longevity.
 
Here's Adebayor scoring against peak Rio:



Outstanding assist from a certain Cesc Fabregas there too ;).

im not talking stats wise, Malouda at his best was twice the player Vdv ever was, one of the most overrated players ever.....no wonder Spurs got in CL when he was injured and Kranjcar played in his place.
What i would have done is sacrifice Toure for a lesser cb(you would be fine, enough protection, Rio to partner him + you are against Ade and not some goat EPL striker) cb and then go for Arsenal Cesc who is much better player then Chelsea version and then you get free place for Malouda who is perfect team and balance player, which is very important as you also have Alexis in the side.
As for scan voters, Vdv is obviously a much bigger and attractive name then Malouda.....

I don't really agree that VDV was overrated at all. At the time, he was a hugely important player for Spurs and put in good performances for them to match. He floated around a bit beforehand, but Spurs was where he settled and played the best football of his career. Everybody agreed the £8mil Spurs got for him was a bargain and there were strong rumours they'd sell him on for a lot more than that to teams including us at the time. He performed well, was their top scorer, and pulled it out in the big games like against Arsenal or scoring the first goal in the Inter game in their 3-1 win. The bit in bold is also completely untrue, VDV joined the season Spurs were in the CL, not when they finished 4th. I think with the way he played for Spurs, where sometimes he was effectively a striker for them, he'd be a perfect fit in this set up and give Gio's side a lot of problems picking him up with his ability to pop up as the number 10, out wide, or even on the shoulder of the last defender like here: