All Time Chain Draft - Finals: Tuppet vs The Stain

With players at career peaks, who will win the match?

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Team Tuppet:

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New Addition:

Our team welcomes one of the best man marker to have played game in Kohler and one of the most outrageously talented player of all time in Baggio.

Tactic:

We’ll be playing a fluid 4-3-3 formation. At this stage of an all time draft pretty much all the players at the pitch are fantastic and there is not much to say about individual quality. I really like The Stain’s team and can’t pick any glaring weakness in it. So here I describe a few observations about my team & tactic and leave the rest on the judgement of voters -

1. Breathtaking attack - Baggio and Rummenigge playing their favored inside left forward and inside right forward roles respectively, this just screams goals !!. They are two of the best ever in their role. Stain’s defense is pretty great, but IMO no defense can sustain Baggio-Carlos from left and Rummenigge - Reuter from right for 90 minutes. Baggio would provide trickiness, mazy dribble and creativity while Rummenigge gives powerful runs from the deep, great athleticism and finishing ability.

Eto’o fits perfectly in this attack, with his work ethic, searing pace and ability to run channels, as well tactical flexibility (played all over the front line and in both wings) would provide chances to my deadly duo of inside forwards. Eto’o himself is no slouch - 3 times champions league winner !! 2 times consecutive winner with 2 different clubs. Man of the match in champions league final 2006 and opened the scoring against European champions Manchester United in champions league final 2009 against the fabled defense of Ferdinand - Vidic. Obviously a guy for big occasions, his fantastic technique and finishing means he could come up with a goal on his own here.

2. Dominating midfield - Equal part physical and creative my midfield has everything tenacity, creativity and tactical intelligence. Van Hanegem is the standout midfielder on the park, a genius who is referred in the same breath as the likes of Cruyff and Neeskens. He is aided in his job by Gullit, who would play as the most advanced midfielder, using his unique versatility (which allows him to play and be awesome everywhere from sweeper to midfield, right wing or striker) and great tactical intelligence allows him to contribute in both defensive and attacking phase of the game. A physical, force of nature he would provide plenty of muscles for midfield battle. Finally rounding off is Makelele, one of the finest defensive midfielder, he would be playing his usual Makelele role, shielding the defense. His role is very crucial for my team as we use attacking full backs to provide width. When one of my full back goes on the attacking run, Makelele would drop deeper, acting as a third defender helping in covering the space left by my full back and maintaining back four.

3. World class complementary partnership at center defense - At the heart of defense we have fantastic partnership of Kohler - Nesta, two of the best modern day center backs who compliments each other very well. Kohler’s aggressiveness and Nesta’s elegance, it’s not going to be easy to breach this defense.

4. Rampaging wing backs - In Reuter and Roberto Carlos I have two wingbacks adapt to own the flank on their own. Both are used to play in wingless formations and have won champions league playing same role. Particularly on left I can see Roberto Carlos - Baggio, to be similarly devastating as Roberto Carlos - Rivaldo. Not to say Reuter is any less of threat on the other side. He is probably a bit less technical than Carlos but his physicality is as good as any wingback in history. They are my main source of width in this game as both of my wide forwards tend to cut inside.

Now this is not to say that they are weak defensively, this is the beauty of having someone like Makelele in midfield who can provide ample cover when one of them go on their attacking runs. Not that they would need it all the time as both are adapt defenders who with their pace and stamina would run up and down the pitch all day. Van Hangem’s tendency to drift to left and Gullit drifting to right also helps in covering any gaps.

5. Aerial threat - In Gullit I have a fantastic header of the ball. His runs from midfield, to connect with a deep cross from Carlos, Reuter or Van Hanegem is a fantastic route of goal for our team. Speaking of Van Hanegem him and Rummenigge are two others who are fantastic in the air.

Decades breakdown:
40s - Van Hanegem
50s - Rummenigge,
60s - Reuter, Kohler, Baggio, Gullit
70s - Roberto Carlos, Nesta, Peruzzi, Makelele
80s - Eto’o
 
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Team The Stain


4-2-3-1:
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The game-plan is to play with 2 compact banks of 4 with men behind the ball to minimize the space in front of defence which is where the opposition has the most threats. When we regain possession we will look to counter-attack. Mainly down the wings as i imagine there will be plenty of room since the opposition lacks natural wingers that defend, and they have attacking full/wingbacks. My team is as comfortable in possession as it is on the counter-attack so when there isn't opportunity for a c-attack we will patiently build play.

Gerets was a man marker with high mentality/tenacity who provided deep cover. He could run all day, his stamina was superb. Cole was once the best fullback in the world and consistently got the better of Cristiano Ronaldo. Stam/Scirea is a well balanced central defence. Stam's athleticism, pace and aggression suits his stopper role. Scirea's world class tactical ability and vision will suit his covering role.

Schweinsteiger will play the more holding midfield role in the central mid partnership. Robson will play his box-box role. That's one mean, ball winning duo. Giggs is playing his normal wing role. Robben to, taking on anyone in his way, cutting inside to deliver the pass or shot. The pace on the wings and from central areas (Laudrup/Romario) gives me a great counter-attacking outlet. Romario will do his thing.

I have such an array of great passers. Scirea in defence, Bastian in the holding midfield role. Above him is the extraordinary attacking playmaker, through-ball and dribbling specialist; Laudrup. He will will orchestrate the attacks.

I have several match winners and leaders in the team. We have many ways to goal:

Laudrup's playmaking, direct play from Scirea/Bastian, Giggs crossing and challenging his full-back, Robson linking up with the attackers at times, Robben's unpredictability and cutting inside, Romario, long shots, set pieces, etc.

Attack:​

  • Leading the line is one of the all time greatest strikers; Romario. One of the most prolific goalscorers in the history of the game. He scored more than 1,000 goals during his career including unofficial matches. He is one of the greatest first touch goal-getters of all-time. Known for his blistering acceleration, great shooting and dribbling technique. He had a trick against man-marking. When man-marked, he often stopped moving, reasoning that his marker’s natural tendency was to move rather than stand still. After his markers moved, He was off in the other direction for a pass or goal opportunity. Voted PSV's best ever player. Player of the tournament as Brazil won the WC 94. FIFA World Player of the year 94'.
Midfield:​

  • Flying down the left wing is Ryan Giggs. One of the greatest legends for United, he is the clubs longest servant with 962 matches and 150 goals. 13 PL medals and 2 CL victories.

  • On ther other side is Arjen Robben. Robben is known for his dribbling skills, speed, crossing ability and his accurate left foot long-range shots from the right wing. An unstoppable, prolific scorer for Bayern.

  • In the hole is magician Michael Laudrup. A world class playmaker who had the ability to play his way through tight situations and find the right pass to his team mates, no matter how impossible it seemed. 3 years after he left Real he was named best foreign player in the past 25 years in La Liga.

  • In central mid we find the team captain marvel; Bryan Robson. A complete midfielder capable of driving on the whole team to victory. 461 matches and 99 goals for United. Known for his great tackles, ball winning and passing abilities he was also a good header of the ball. Robson captained both Manchester United and England for more than a decade.

  • Next to him is Bastian Schweinsteiger. In Sjor's words; "a true warrior on the field and a natural born leader". Legend for Bayern and Germany who has won most trophies including the WC and CL.
Defence:​

  • On the left is major cnut; Ashley Cole. Best left-back in the world in the early 00's. Arguably England's best left-back ever. He shut down C. Ronaldo consistently and will be a handful for any winger in the draft.

  • On the other side is Eric Gerets. "The Lion", a warrior that at his peak was regarded as one of the top right-backs in Europe. Captained PSV when they won the European Cup (CL) in 88'. Part of the Belgian teams (captain 82'-90') that finished runner up in EURO 80' and 4th in the WC 86.

  • In central defence we find one of the best defenders of all time; Gaetano Scirea. He was a graceful sweeper or central defender with great vision, ball controlling skills and tactical ability. He would always be in the right place at the right time and rarely needed to tackle to make interceptions. Best defender at the EURO 80', WC 82' winner, won all UEFA competitions and the Serie A 7 times with Juve.

  • His partner is Jaap Stam. Explosive central defender who possessed great pace, strength and ball-playing abilities. Voted best defender 2 consecutive CL's; 98'-00'.

  • In goal is Belgian Michel Preud'homme. He was one of the best goalkeepers in the world during the late 80's and the early 90's. Won the Lev Yashin award (best keeper) at the WC 94'. Highest place in Ballon d'Or was 10th in 89'.
Subs:
  • David Beckham
  • Kaká
  • Ronald Koeman
  • Michael Essien
  • Gheorghe Hagi
  • Ruud van Nistelrooy
 
Two very similar teams here.

But Tuppet seems to be better man to man. His front 3 is just fantastic. Kalle and Baggio behind Eto'o is just phenomenal. Add in Gullit there and it just screams goals. Far far more than anything The Stain could hope to produce. Van Hanegem and Gullit's versatility to operate in wide areas is an added bonus and would bring the best of those incredible fullback's of his. Makelele is best placed to dampen the Laudrup's creativity.

Leaning towards Tuppet for now.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Two very similar teams here.

But Tuppet seems to be better man to man. His front 3 is just fantastic. Kalle and Baggio behind Eto'o is just phenomenal. Add in Gullit there and it just screams goals. Far far more than anything The Stain could hope to produce. Van Hanegem and Gullit's versatility to operate in wide areas is an added bonus and would bring the best of those incredible fullback's of his. Makelele is best placed to dampen the Laudrup's creativity.

Leaning towards Tuppet for now.
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Go on, EAP. Place your vote for Tuppet already. You've voted against my team twice and opted not to vote in one game so why would this be any different? :D
 
The Stain said:
Go on, EAP. Place your vote for Tuppet already. You've voted against my team twice and opted not to vote in one game so why would this be any different? :D
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Have I? :lol: Been going through some stuff at work, so did not concentrate properly in this draft. As I said in the main thread, the fact that it is both of you and not the usual regulars making it to finals is a big happy take away for me, irrespective of the winner.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Have I? :lol: Been going through some stuff at work, so did not concentrate properly in this draft. As I said in the main thread, the fact that it is both of you and not the usual regulars making it to finals is a big happy take away for me, irrespective of the winner.
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Ye, regardless of the result here it's been an excellent draft. Kudos for thinking up the chain concept. I've learnt a lot about who's played with whom.
 
Tuppet's team was my favorite throughout the draft, mostly because of Gullit - Van Hanegem. The only thing that I'm disappointed about is that Reuter starts in the final of all-time draft :( But if Giggs beats his man he is going for a cross more often than not and I can't see Romario winning air against Kohler and Nesta.
 
This is really close. I'll have to think about it.

harms said:
Tuppet's team was my favorite throughout the draft, mostly because of Gullit - Van Hanegem. The only thing that I'm disappointed about is that Reuter starts in the final of all-time draft :( But if Giggs beats his man he is going for a cross more often than not and I can't see Romario winning air against Kohler and Nesta.
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Not all crosses need to be in the air to the back post. Cut-backs, drilled or quick ones to the near post are all possibilities which Romario would thrive on.
 
Physiocrat said:
Not all crosses need to be in the air to the back post. Cut-backs, drilled or quick ones to the near post are all possibilities which Romario would thrive on.
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Yes, but still I feel that Romario isn't the best type of forward - RVN on steroids would've been better. Romario's best qualities are his burst of acceleration, his low centre of gravity and close control and Giggs beating his fullback don't really help. Laudrup does though, and it's a great move by Stain to recreate their partnership with him.
 
The Stain said:
Go on, EAP. Place your vote for Tuppet already. You've voted against my team twice and opted not to vote in one game so why would this be any different? :D
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EAP is pretty fair when it comes to these things. In fact he's actually voted for you twice in the Euro draft matches, when the scores were 8-7 and 13-11 in your favour. Sometimes we find ourselves voting against a team, more than on one occasion, because we don't like their tactics/personnel etc, doesn't mean it has to be deliberate :D.

Anyway on the match itself, Tuppet has a fantastic front quartet who will work pretty well and they pose a tremendous goalscoring threat. A slight concern though would be that there is a lack of width there, which will surely be compensated by the wing-backs providing them. It generally isn't too big an issue though, as he does have Gullit, Rummenigge and van Hanegem who are pretty good at providing supplementary width. However, he is up against two extremely dangerous and well-balanced flanks in Cole-Giggs and Robben-Gerets who are spot on in terms of offensive and defensive balance. That in addition to The Stain having a solid core in Robson-Schweinsteiger and Scirea-Stam who can keep it compact and make it hard for Tuppet to break through.

Needless to say, van Hanegem-Makelele will be tasked with providing a wee bit of defensive cover on the flanks for the wing-backs, but that's a move that can't happen too often here, as that midfield does have to contend with Laudrup's constant movement and Robson's lung bursting runs forward. Gullit's ability to slot bac into midfield when needed, will mitigate that temporary loss in the midfield department to a certain extent though. I don't have anything against Tuppet's set up here in general but I think for this match-up in particular, it would be more savvy to have Nedved on the right instead of Rummenigge, to give that attack a wee bit more width and an extra dimension.

The Stain has a cracking and a well-balanced side but one that is a bit lacking in goal threat. He does have two primary goalscorers in Robben and Romario, with Robson also being more than capable of chipping in. However, Romario is up against a fearsome central duo in Nesta-Kohler and Robson is up against a solid midfield duo of van Hanegem-Makelele. I can see Robben having some joy against R.Carlos on the ball and on the counter though.

On the fence on this one, will Tuppet's goalscoring prowess triumph here or will The Stain's more balanced side edge this one tactically and nab that single decisive goal via the flanks?
 
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Joga Bonito said:
In fact he's actually voted for you twice in the Euro draft matches
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Didn't know that, still i was only joking :D

On the other things you said. Like you said, i do feel i have a more balanced side that would work better together. I'll get in to that in a minute.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Finally rounding off is Makelele, one of the finest defensive midfielder, he would be playing his usual Makelele role, shielding the defense. His role is very crucial for my team as we use attacking full backs to provide width. When one of my full back goes on the attacking run, Makelele would drop deeper, acting as a third defender helping in covering the space left by my full back and maintaining back four.
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Obviously, every time you attack, at least one wing-back will surge forward (probably both since at most times my pressing starts in my own half to induce counter-attacks). Makelele will slot into his role, the Makelele role in front of the central defenders. So when you're defending he plays next to Van Hanegem? I'd want Makelele in front of the central defenders at all times.

Or is the picture of a 4-2-3-1 with narrow attackers an attempt to give the impression that Gullit is playing his arguably best role as a second striker instead of as a more advanced central midfielder to the right? Gullit as a central midfielder would work but you wouldn't see as many darting runs in to the box from him. Same can be said for Robson but i'm fine with him not having as much influence in attack in this match.

I don't feel you need so many attackers in central areas. It will become congested taking my narrow defending in to account. You are very reliant on the wing-backs to stretch my formation here.
 
I think Reuter is getting slightly underrated here, he is a fantastic full back both offensively and defensively -

antohan said:
He is your standout defender and the reason I'm not banging on about how Giggs will win this game. If I had to pick a back four out of both sides it would be Evra-Nesta-Ferrara-Reuter. When facing Giggs you ideally want one of Zanetti or Thuram, Reuter would be in the tier immediately after those two, but not too far behind.
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Annahnomoss said:
You see that every time Reuter receives a ball, how quickly he can make the pass, how accurate it is and how long his passing range is. That is no shame on Reuter as he is one of, if not the, physically best full back/wing back in history. He had a great stamina, acceleration and pace as well as a great balance.

His strengths were his physical supremeness and his weaknesses were his technical ones, not that they were poor - just not world class.
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Annahnomoss said:
I am not arguing that Alves is better than Reuter. I've said that Alves strength, his offense. Is stronger than Reuters offense, which is normal as Reuter was very well balanced in terms of offense and defense. Not better offensively than defensively as a full back. While Alves is specialized offensively and is one of the better full-backs offensively.
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We are talking about a guy who was a world cup winner in 1990, Euro winner in 1996 and Champions league winner in 1997 with dortmund.

Secondly his connection with Kohler, Kohler - Reuter virtually played everywhere together, Bayern, Juventus, Dortumnd & Germany. Kohler has plenty of experience in covering him.

This is not to say Giggs vs Reuter and Robben vs Roberto Carlos is not Stain's best route to the goal. Ofcourse they would trouble my wingbacks, which is the price you pay for playing with attacking full backs. But I would argue -
1. They won't really be going forward together. One would move forward, other would stay back.

2. Makelele would stay deep and act as a third defender, when full backs go charging forward.

3. As Harms mentioned Giggs is less likely to cut in and go for goal himself (he can ofcourse, before someone throws Arsenal goal on my face), its just he is less likely to, and it would be hard for Romario to get the best of Nesta and Kohler for it.

4. Reuter and Carlos are excellent defenders as well, I have seen it before when you have attacking full backs suddenly your team is weak defensively, but that just does not happen in real life. Sides like Milan, Brazil 02 and even Barca have faced plenty of great wingers and still trump with their attacking full backs. Part of the reason is their great stamina and physicality, often for example at his peak when Roberto Carlos goes forward, the other team tries to play ball behind him in the space he left, only to find that there is no space, as he is already on his way back. Both of my wing backs have played in wingless formations and have won all sort of trophies doing it.

5. I hardly think my wingbacks would be get double teamed on. both Gerets and Cole already have their hands full while contending with Baggio and Rummenigge.
 
The Stain said:
Obviously, every time you attack, at least one wing-back will surge forward (probably both since at most times my pressing starts in my own half to induce counter-attacks). Makelele will slot into his role, the Makelele role in front of the central defenders. So when you're defending he plays next to Van Hanegem? I'd want Makelele in front of the central defenders at all times.

Or is the picture of a 4-2-3-1 with narrow attackers an attempt to give the impression that Gullit is playing his arguably best role as a second striker instead of as a more advanced central midfielder to the right? Gullit as a central midfielder would work but you wouldn't see as many darting runs in to the box from him. Same can be said for Robson but i'm fine with him not having as much influence in attack in this match.

I don't feel you need so many attackers in central areas. It will become congested taking my narrow defending in to account. You are very reliant on the wing-backs to stretch my formation here.
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Makelele is playing his trademark role all the time. Which is shielding the defense, which is what I mentioned in the write up. Gullit is playing as an advanced midfielder and not as a secondary striker. I already have two of the best secondary strikers and do not really require Gullit in that role. His tactical flexibility and physicality is the reason he would help a lot in midfield, making well timed runs in the box, to get at the end of crosses or driving the ball himself forward, drifting to right when Rummenigge goes up top.

I have mentioned this that I am depending upon my wingbacks to provide the width, which is why I have two of the best to do the job there. Having Roberto Carlos in your team and not asking him to provide width is a bit silly IMO. Baggio and Rummenigge also going to run all over the flanks to central areas.

Van hanegem provides plenty of width on the left side, when in possession -

 
I think The Stain has enough goal threat, in Romario and Robben. While Tuppet has more goal threat, he doesn't have anyone as creative as Laudrup nor someone who will stretch the defence like Giggs or Robben. I think Stain's attack is a more balanced, having said that I can't think of a better defender than Nesta against someone like Romario. Giggs and Robben against Reuter and Carlos would certainly pose problems and in my opinion could stretch that back four just enough to give Romario a chance. On the other hand, Tuppet's three forwards are quite fearsome, I'm looking at Kalle and his explosiveness causing a bit of trouble in that left right channel. Should be a great game to watch, this.
 
Very little to choose between the teams but i feel that the set-up and personnel that @Tuppet has are relatively easier to defend, despite their obvious quality. I am more inclined towards an attack containing Giggs, Robben & Laudrup supporting Romario
 
Aldo said:
I think The Stain has enough goal threat, in Romario and Robben. While Tuppet has more goal threat, he doesn't have anyone as creative as Laudrup nor someone who will stretch the defence like Giggs or Robben. I think Stain's attack is a more balanced, having said that I can't think of a better defender than Nesta against someone like Romario. Giggs and Robben against Reuter and Carlos would certainly pose problems and in my opinion could stretch that back four just enough to give Romario a chance. On the other hand, Tuppet's three forwards are quite fearsome, I'm looking at Kalle and his explosiveness causing a bit of trouble in that left right channel. Should be a great game to watch, this.
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Van Hanegem + Roberto Baggio.
 
Aldo said:
I don't consider either of them, specially when it comes to vision and creativity, at par with Laudrup. Here the Dane has his old partner in crime ahead of him, it's quite difficult to look past that combo.
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Well if you think that, there is not much I can do there, but I do not see a lack creativity being an issue in my side at all.
 
I honestly don't know how people are saying an attack of Baggio, Rummenigge and Eto'o is predictable and easy to defend against. Because they are not out and out wingers ? Just because they like to cut in does not mean they are similar players. Baggio would run Gerets all over the park on left flank, cutting in Stam would not like to face him at all. While Rummenigge with his powerful runs and shooting would give hard time to even the best defenders. Roberto Carlos and Reuter crossing from byline or deep with Gullit & Rummenigge heading, Eto's movement pulling defenders apart making space for my atackers I see my attack is as varied as Stain's if not more.
 
Tuppet said:
Makelele is playing his trademark role all the time. Which is shielding the defense, which is what I mentioned in the write up. Gullit is playing as an advanced midfielder and not as a secondary striker. I already have two of the best secondary strikers and do not really require Gullit in that role. His tactical flexibility and physicality is the reason he would help a lot in midfield, making well timed runs in the box, to get at the end of crosses or driving the ball himself forward, drifting to right when Rummenigge goes up top.

I have mentioned this that I am depending upon my wingbacks to provide the width, which is why I have two of the best to do the job there. Having Roberto Carlos in your team and not asking him to provide width is a bit silly IMO. Baggio and Rummenigge also going to run all over the flanks to central areas.
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So in reality it's more of a straight central midfield line, then. With VH providing some width (mainly in your own half, i watched the video).

Baggio - Rummenigge
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Not as you have made it out to look in the picture, more similar to your previous formation-pictures.

Gullit worked very well in central midfield but i'd play him in his best position behind the main striker here, surrounded by providers rather than scorers in Baggio and Rummenigge. All of them will have an inclination to play in central areas, i can see it becoming congested especially with my compact defence+midfield. Rummenigge i can see going wider but none of your attackers bar Gullit will provide much help when defending unlike Giggs/Robben.

When i win the ball back in my half we'll look for Robben or Giggs straight away, getting the ball out wide, or straight to Laudrup/Romario if they've found the space. One of RC and Reuter will be high up the pitch so there will be room to operate in. R. Carlos could defend ok but let's not kid ourselves here, he's an attacking player who was prone to getting caught out of position. He had some brain farts. Like tying his shoelaces when Zidane took the free-kick which Henry(his man to mark) scored from as Brazil were knocked out of WC06'.
 
Kohler - Nesta looks a great partnership. Both of them had great positional ability and would read the game very well. The only negative i can find would be that both of them weren't the fastest of players, Kohler more so than Nesta.

Romario is a beast of a striker. I'd only put the true Ronaldo and G. Müller ahead of him, possibly van Basten but i think they're about even. This is a man who scored over 1000 goals in his career (unofficial games included). He's the second most prolific scorer in the history of football only to Josef Bican.

Such a striker was obviously man-marked every single game of his career. His trick to shrugg off defenders was to remain still as he figured the natural inclination of the man-marker was to be on the move. After his markers moved, he was off in the other direction for a pass or goal opportunity.

You mentioned that Reuter and Kohler have played together. Here Romario plays with one of the all-time best attacking playmakers; Laudrup. To top it off; they have the chemistry having played together for Barca.

How about this? Laudrup with his patented looky-there, chippy here to serve Romario on a plate.

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Who will stop him on the counter?

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And let's not forget about the chemistry between Robson/Giggs on the left & Schweini/Robben on the right.
 
Well people have asked for width and width they shall get. Out goes mercurial Baggio - in comes ever reliable, Ballon D'or winning Nedved, fantastically there is no loss of quality here. Nedved would stretch the defense, add creativity and provide support to Reuter on right. Rummenigge would move to left, as probably the most complete forward of his generation, he is comfortable all over the front line. Roberto Carlos would still dominate the flank and overlap with an in cutting Rummenigge. Gullit moves to a more attacking position.

To balance the Decades rule, Kopke comes in for Peruzzi.

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With this sub our side still maintains its outstanding attacking threat from Rummenigge, Gullit and Eto'o. While adding another provider in Nedved.

@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
On a phone. Will update once I get back.

Kalle on the left, wtf! Why can't Nedved play left? Gullit-Kalle was a awesome combo. Hate this sub personally.
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Hmm Not the reactionI predicted obviously :) . Kalle plays everywhere in the front line, not sure him playing in the left would be any problem. Although, Gullit covering right flank with Kalle and Nedved left flank with Van Hanegem, sure does sound good. Mostly the reason I have Nedved on the right, to maximize the attacking potential of Carlos, but then again he is facing a bigger threat in Robben.

Hmm Decisions !!
 
The Stain said:
Kohler - Nesta looks a great partnership. Both of them had great positional ability and would read the game very well. The only negative i can find would be that both of them weren't the fastest of players, Kohler more so than Nesta.

Romario is a beast of a striker. I'd only put the true Ronaldo and G. Müller ahead of him, possibly van Basten but i think they're about even. This is a man who scored over 1000 goals in his career (unofficial games included). He's the second most prolific scorer in the history of football only to Josef Bican.

Such a striker was obviously man-marked every single game of his career. His trick to shrugg off defenders was to remain still as he figured the natural inclination of the man-marker was to be on the move. After his markers moved, he was off in the other direction for a pass or goal opportunity.

You mentioned that Reuter and Kohler have played together. Here Romario plays with one of the all-time best attacking playmakers; Laudrup. To top it off; they have the chemistry having played together for Barca.

How about this? Laudrup with his patented looky-there, chippy here to serve Romario on a plate.

Who will stop him on the counter?

And let's not forget about the chemistry between Robson/Giggs on the left & Schweini/Robben on the right.
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Well Romario is great, the best striker on the pitch without a doubt. But in Nesta and Kohler I have right personnel to deal with him. Nesta wasn't exactly slow, he isn't blisteringly fast but you don't have to when you have his positioning and defensive intelligence.



On the other hand my trio Eto'o - Gullit and Rummenigge is blisteringly fast, physical and lethal add Nedved's threat from out of box and my attack would probably overwhelm any defense.
 
Don't like the sub at all. Carlos and Reuter with the help from van hanegem and Baggio on the left and Gullit + kalle on the right is more than enough
 
4 hrs into the game when the sub was made. That's 15 minutes into the match and a sub is made. Drastic action, i must have scored. Now he's questioning his own positional decisions, what would his players think? ;):wenger:

Out for tonight. Feel i've made my arguments for a win clear. I'd just like to point out that i've given my team clear and simple tactical instructions on how they should play (in write-up). Opposition has not. "Lads, it's only Spurs". I smell complacency.. :D

For information on my players i refer to the write-up above and the previous matches (videos in links):

Gerets, Schweini:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-chain-draft-r1-the-stain-vs-Šjor-bepo.409239/

Robson:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-chain-draft-qf3-cutch-vs-the-stain.409571/page-2

Laudrup, Bastian, Scirea, Giggs, Robben:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-chain-draft-sf-the-stain-vs-mjj-crappy.409730/

I haven't provided any videos/gifs of Giggs or Robben in previous matches which is shameful so here we go. Let's throw in Romario for good measure. Always nice to be nostalgic:





Good eve .
 
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woah !! that reaction. Well the sub is made I guess, don't think I can take it back. @Edgar Allan Pillow Please use the following lineup (some tactical move around, to put players in their favored position) -

VivaTuppet-formation-tactics.png
 
The Stain said:
4 hrs into the game when the sub was made. That's 15 minutes into the match and a sub is made. Drastic action, i must have scored. Now he's questioning his own positional decisions, what would his players think? ;):wenger:

Out for tonight. Feel i've made my arguments for a win clear. I'd just like to point out that i've given my team clear and simple tactical instructions on how they should play (in write-up). Opposition has not. "Lads, it's only Spurs". I smell complacency.. :D

For information on my players i refer to the write-up above and the previous matches (videos in links):

Gerets, Schweini:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-chain-draft-r1-the-stain-vs-Šjor-bepo.409239/

Robson:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-chain-draft-qf3-cutch-vs-the-stain.409571/page-2

Laudrup, Bastian, Scirea, Giggs, Robben:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-chain-draft-sf-the-stain-vs-mjj-crappy.409730/

I haven't provided any videos/gifs of Giggs or Robben in previous matches which is shameful so here we go. Let's throw in Romario for good measure. Always nice to be nostalgic:





Good eve .
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Cheeky bastard :) .
 
@Tuppet I hadn't seen that Eto'o goal before. It's obscene :eek:

Assuming of course it goes in and you didn't deliberately cut the gif short.
 
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