If the press are to be believed (and on the most part, I'd think they're not) they wanted Martial and got talked down to Mkhitaryan and no compensation 
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I think these are actually good news. Raiola confirms it's about Mkhi and between United and Arsenal. City and Chelsea are out. For me this is better situation than compete with City. I guess United will sign him, Mkhi goes or stays. Salaries are not problem. Only problem is that is Arsenal willing to sell him without Mkhi? And i guess sooner or later they are. They must rebuild soon and they don't have unlimited budget. If we pay like 40M, they will take it. They don't want to let him go for a free.
Mino is the source.
Straight swap would be incredible. Alexis is only a month older than Mhiki.
Sky sauce at it's finest and God help Wenger if it's true.
Confidence obviously plays a part but I genuinely don't think he's actually that good at football. His dribbling isn't anything special against tough opposition, has a lack of awareness and space despite being seemingly good at this at Dortmund, and lacks any character on the pitch.
The last time Mkhi scored or assisted was the 27th of September vs CSKA Moscow away (1 goal, 1 assist). Since then he's had 638 minutes without scoring or assisting. Over 10 and a half hours of football.
Hilarious, that people on here are accusing Miki of being public enemy number one as he won't go somewhere he doesn't want to on his terms, just so we can bring a mercenary in. I certainly wouldn't in his shoes, & I expect neither would anyone on these forums if they were in a similar situation.
Raiola is brilliant, imo the fee has disappeared into their pockets
Surely this cannot be a straight swap. But in that crazy hypothetical scenario, it wouldn't be surprising if we would subsidise Mkhi's wages there to get him to leave.
The fact he has been playing like shite and Mourinho wants him out should be his problem. He can get a fresh start at Arsenal, if he pulls up his nose for that, I will be even further disappointed in him then I already am right now.
He can join whatever club he wants but Arsenal would be a good club for him at this level and it is also not that there are many other alternatives except sitting on the bench at United, a club that doesn't want you anymore, that doesn't need you anymore. A player who is in his prime should have higher ambitions than being an unwanted bench player.
People really are underrating Miki and this situation. Miki has several years left on his contract, while Sanchez only has about 5 months and will be free. Miki is easily worth as much as Sanchez in these circumstances. The only reason why Miki isn't worth a lot more is his relatively high wage demands that Arsenal likely won't match, which will lower his transfer fee.
Raiola says a deal isn't happening any soon so it may drag on until the last days of the window.
Isn´t it unlikely that Raiola creates like .. bad karma or a bad relationship with Mourinho/the club by not doing everything to get this deal through? What´s the benefit for him in having a client (Miki) benched and forgotten at Utd?
Actually that deal makes sense but i would be willing to add up to 15 mil to get Sanchez.
Exactly. People are treating it as if the players were in the same contractual situation.
I am not happy before we get Arsenal to pay us to swap Sanchez with Mkhitaryan 
A club that is stupid enough to let their 2 best players run down their contract, could surely be taken to the cleaners a bit more
A club that is stupid enough to let their 2 best players run down their contract, could surely be taken to the cleaners a bit more
As i said before- if Mikhi decides to stay he is going to rot in reserves. I don't think Mou will play him.
I'd like this to be true but I doubt it is, given the Armenian journalist was mentioning specific figures. I can imagine why people would want to sell the deal like this, to maintain Mhki's perceived worth. However, a straight swap seems very unlikely to my mind.
People undervaluing Mhiki here but ya that would be a great deal.
He's leaving on a free in 6 months anyway. At least this way they get a player back
Baaahahaha no wayyyyy. If that happens, Arsenal are the biggest bunch of muppets ever to grace this earth. No chance this'll happen.
Take Mkhi and we take Sanchez and Ozil. No Fee
Makes sense in all honesty.
No idea why Miki would suddenly be worth feck all regardless of his form. Decent length of contract to run, has delivered bits of magic at times so potential remains under a new manager.
If Sanchez is only worth £35m with 6 months to go, then I don't know why Miki isn't worth the same (could definitely get more for him if he was in better form). I mean fecking AOC went for £40m don't forget.
So its all down to making sure that Mikhi will be still getting his £200k per week and Mino Raiola gets his cut from the transfer, cause trust him, unless they do, this transfer aint going nowhere.
Mkhi was £23m, correct?
This reads like he is letting the world know that he is not in charge of targets. It is rather embarrassing and may actually underline the rumours that the board/roman dictate these things and he is just told to get on with it. No wonder so many managers leave/sacked
Can we please stop taking the piss out Arsenal's business sense, and start talking Mhiki up, before they wake up.
It worked a treat with Welbeck.
Why change a winning formula?
It worked a treat with Welbeck.
Why change a winning formula?
I look forward to reading all these arguments about Mkhi leaving next time a player wants to force his way out. I’m sure it will be viewed the same.
It's a disgrace how football fans are in general
Exactly. It makes sense.
Mou will do nothing of that sort. If Miki does well in training, he will play. It all depends on Mou's strategy for the match.
He was in the last year of his deal at Dortmund as well.
27m (rising to 30m?)
Meanwhile, Redcafe is in meltdown and calling for Jose to be sacked.
£27m, I think. As if we could technically be making a profit.
I put Sky Sports News on, to see if they were running with this nonsense on air and all I'll say is, this Rachel Wyse presenter is out of this world. Sign her up.
But surely Arsenal would then be better served reverting to a £35 million fee and leaving Miki out of it. Cash plus Miki I can understand, even when taking Sanchez's contract situation into account; but a straight swap would be a poor deal for Arsenal. I still think it will be cash plus Miki.
Yeah I'm not even sure he knew who Ross Barkley is for instance. Managers at Chelsea have no influence on incomings.
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