croadyman
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I read somewhere Telles was first choice and Regulion second.
You would think there was going to be movement then if that's the case
I read somewhere Telles was first choice and Regulion second.
I'm not sure what goes on behind the scenes mate, but you would think so wouldn't you. They have had weeks to sort it.You would think there was going to be movement then if that's the case
Why’s that nonsense? Di Maria was fecking expensive and on massive wages and he didn’t even want to be there. Pogba was our record signing and is reportedly on £300k a week but he isn’t out performing other midfielders worth that much or in that much. I don’t think if we were on for him this window we’d pay it, the same with Sancho.Nonsense.
People are far too sensitive about Pogba on here. If you think he’s been worth every penny and is living up to his potential week in week out at Manchester United you’re completely delusional.Nonsense.
Telles needs to be sold though, as his contract is running down. Dalot may be a good option for them if they can't get a transfer fee for him.A player who was super promising for them 2 years ago but has since regressed, lost confidence and wasted years of development. I doubt they'd be up for it.
Di Maria despite not wanting to come here was worth what we paid at the time. After all he had just won the UCL that season or the season before and he was instrumental.Why’s that nonsense? Di Maria was fecking expensive and on massive wages and he didn’t even want to be there. Pogba was our record signing and is reportedly on £300k a week but he isn’t out performing other midfielders worth that much or in that much. I don’t think if we were on for him this window we’d pay it, the same with Sancho.
He has been worth every penny even with his flaws which every player has. Aside from that no player lives up to their potential week in or week out, whatever that means; the delusional one is who even suggests it.People are far too sensitive about Pogba on here. If you think he’s been worth every penny and is living up to his potential week in week out at Manchester United you’re completely delusional.
Yeah, if we just overlook his flaws and go with the attitude that no player performs week in week out, whatever that means, then I suppose a world record fee was worth every penny.He has been worth every penny even with his flaws which every player has. Aside from that no player lives up to their potential week in or week out, whatever that means; the delusional one is who even suggests it.
Telles may become an excellent player if we buy him but he will never perform to great height every week, give me one player who does.
Telles needs to be sold though, as his contract is running down. Dalot may be a good option for them if they can't get a transfer fee for him.
Di Maria despite not wanting to come here was worth what we paid at the time. After all he had just won the UCL that season or the season before and he was instrumental.
Sancho is still largely unproven and does not have any accolades behind his name so is nothing like Paul.
He has been worth every penny even with his flaws which every player has. Aside from that no player lives up to their potential week in or week out, whatever that means; the delusional one is who even suggests it.
Telles may become an excellent player if we buy him but he will never perform to great height every week, give me one player who does.
I'm a big fan of Pogba, simply because he does things that just take the breath away (the same reason I loved Berbatov.) However, I think it's a very optimistic take to suggest that Pogba has lived up to his price tag. He's just not consistent enough, particularly if you compare him to someone like De Bruyne, which is fully the level I expect Pogba to perform at.Di Maria despite not wanting to come here was worth what we paid at the time. After all he had just won the UCL that season or the season before and he was instrumental.
Sancho is still largely unproven and does not have any accolades behind his name so is nothing like Paul.
He has been worth every penny even with his flaws which every player has. Aside from that no player lives up to their potential week in or week out, whatever that means; the delusional one is who even suggests it.
Telles may become an excellent player if we buy him but he will never perform to great height every week, give me one player who does.
A player who was super promising for them 2 years ago but has since regressed, lost confidence and wasted years of development. I doubt they'd be up for it.
It's much easier to be consistent when you are surrounded by good players playing a good system.There are a few in fairness such as Van Dyke, Mane and Salah at pool, De Bruyne and Aguero at City, they may have the odd poor game but it's not often.
I and many others expected Pogba to be that kind of player given we broke world record fee for him, unfortunately he never has and never will be someone who can put in world class performances week after week, season after season. He has the ability and the talent but not the consistency and application. Perhaps in Italy where the slower pace suits his style of play.
I'm a big fan of Pogba, simply because he does things that just take the breath away (the same reason I loved Berbatov.) However, I think it's a very optimistic take to suggest that Pogba has lived up to his price tag. He's just not consistent enough, particularly if you compare him to someone like De Bruyne, which is fully the level I expect Pogba to perform at.
It's much easier to be consistent when you are surrounded by good players playing a good system.
None of those players would have been as good and as consistent for us as what they have been at Liverpool/City. Would they have been more consistent than Pogba has been? Likely, but no guarantee. What a lot of people forget is that as inconsistent as Pogba has been, he's still been 'good' more than just about any other player in our squad during his time here.
Yeah, just imagine if he put it all together for a full season. I'd actually argue that his run of form during the first stages of Ole's tenure was every bit as impressive as Bruno's first few months. Sadly, as too often seems to be the case, it didn't last.Yep - totally agree. I love Paul because of his talent and his links to the youth-team etc., but he hasn't been influential enough on the pitch (so far) to live up to his reputation or price-tag. But, he's also far from a flop - he's an important part of our team and one of our best players. But the way Fernandes changed us when he arrived, that was the kind of impact I originally wanted from Pogba...
The same Salah who despite being selfish routinely has games where he does nothing? Or the same Van Dyke who routinely now gifts goals to the opposition? Or the same De Bruyne who can sometimes be poor and throw a strop yet no one talks about his attitude? Or the same Aguero who can play on periphery of games and do nothing so much so he loss his place to Gabriel Jesus more than once?There are a few in fairness such as Van Dyke, Mane and Salah at pool, De Bruyne and Aguero at City, they may have the odd poor game but it's not often.
I'm a big fan of Pogba, simply because he does things that just take the breath away (the same reason I loved Berbatov.) However, I think it's a very optimistic take to suggest that Pogba has lived up to his price tag. He's just not consistent enough, particularly if you compare him to someone like De Bruyne, which is fully the level I expect Pogba to perform at.
Myth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.But the way Fernandes changed us when he arrived, that was the kind of impact I originally wanted from Pogba...
Myth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.
a lot of bad posts this window but I think this takes the biscuitMyth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.
Wait, what?Myth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.
Don't be baffled mate to anyone who is not aware the media will make you believe anything. I am not worried for you though, your views will come good one day.I'm not going to argue this one...
Other than to say; I've watched United for over 30 years, and I watched us throughout this season, and if you couldn't see a difference between our play pre- and post-Fernandes I worry for you. It's got nothing to do with media-"specs", and I'm genuinely baffled that anyone can watch us play and not see how much of a difference Fernandes made to us...
You do realise you don't have to belittle Fernandes to make Pogba seem better right? I do believe Pogba is the better player still, but to deny Bruno's impact is delusional. Again it may be exaggerated slightly how good he is because before him it was Lingard/Pereira but that doesn't mean he hasn't been a game changer since he came.Myth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.
Myth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.
I described the player exactly as he is and exactly how he plays for us, you must be the WUM to insinuate otherwise.Your posts are consistently some of the worst around these parts, not least due to their biased nature. However, this one has me questioning whether you actually watched any Utd matches last season. I get strong WUM vibes from you.
I belittled no one, I responded to a poster talking about some mythical impact. Anyway this is the Telles thread.You do realise you don't have to belittle Fernandes to make Pogba seem better right? I do believe Pogba is the better player still, but to deny Bruno's impact is delusional. Again it may be exaggerated slightly how good he is because before him it was Lingard/Pereira but that doesn't mean he hasn't been a game changer since he came.
The same Salah who despite being selfish routinely has games where he does nothing? Or the same Van Dyke who routinely now gifts goals to the opposition? Or the same De Bruyne who can sometimes be poor and throw a strop yet no one talks about his attitude? Or the same Aguero who can play on periphery of games and do nothing so much so he loss his place to Gabriel Jesus more than once?
None of those players "play to their potential week in week out", whatever that means. Telles won't either as it is impossible to do for a human.
That is simply not true but this is for another thread.
Myth. Besides being better than Lingard and scoring penalties Fernandes has not changed us much as people state at all. People in here wear too much specs provided by the media companies.
He needs to go to specsavers. Re: the talking nonsense about Fernandes.a lot of bad posts this window but I think this takes the biscuit
I think you are trying to suggest Van Dyke and De Bruyne are not consistently world class? And that Bruno didnt make an impact.
How long have you been having these thoughts?
Because some people have a 2 month memory of all things. Rio must have been a pretty sh*t defender juding by his last season or so - he was never good. VVD is not good because these last two-three months he has made some mistakes. I have also seen De Bruyne not play well, so obviously he's a little sh*t as well.
Pogba on the other hand, I have seen play as a world class midfielder for 60 minutes in a match, so obviously he's the bestest player in the world.
Nobody is disputing Pogba's talents and top level. However, he is wildly inconsistent. So much so that I have rarely seen him have a consistently great match. He turned the game around vs City some time ago, which was great, but people seem to forget that he was awful in the first half. He's an enigma of a player. He can do things in midfield that no other central midfielder can replicate. He can run into spaces with the ball where Martial struggle to keep up. He can ping passes almost like a prime Scholes. In the next ten minutes, he's caught giving the ball away far too easily, being outrun by some Gareth Barry look alike, misplacing a 5 yard pass and not tracking back for the life of it. That all happens within 30 minutes. So yes, you can blame his teammates, but his intensity is one of the biggest concerns, and that has been a massive concern in his time with United.
Bruno has had a far greater impact to the team than Pogba has ever had. Even if he is not at his best, he is still working his socks off. I remember that one time he chased the ball from midfield down to right back with such intensity that he managed to win the ball against a seemingly faster player. Pogba would never have started that run. He would have jogged back into the middle. Bruno also presses the life out of players, and he wins the ball back more. He urges the team forward. His mentality appears to be on a different level, even if Pogba is more talented - whatever that means - wasn't Riquelme more talented than Ronaldo?
Agree this isn't the right thread, but I have no idea how you could make an argument for Pogba's being consistently excellent with us.That is simply not true but this is for another thread.