So you would say that while Lingard is at best a squad player material, you can see something in Ox that suggests he could be a starting XI material?
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain completes his transfer to Liverpool
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So you would say that while Lingard is at best a squad player material, you can see something in Ox that suggests he could be a starting XI material?
I think that's a pretty good summary of my own thoughts. Ox has that something about him that suggests he could take his game to the next level if it all clicks for him. It's upto Jose to decide if the risk is worth it both in terms of money and the fact we are at a stage where we need to deliver now.
Question is, where would you play him and what about his injuries then? I don't really rate Lingard myself, mind, but I honestly can't see much between the two. I mean, alright, I do understand the hardworking and pace arguments, fair enough, but at the same time I don't see in Ox the potential to score some vital goal like Lingard's FA cup final.
Back to the first question for a second, he isn't better than Mata, Mkhi or Martial, I wouldn't really play him ahead of Rashford either at the moment for more than just ability reasons, I can't see him as a midfielder in double #6 position either so, all in all, he would end up in the same situation as he did at Arsenal and we'd end up with an another squad player. Probably the only clear benefit of this transfer would be the English quota but that's about it.
I for one don't. We should sort our first team out before bringing competition for squad players.
Also, the last thing we need is someone from Arsenal FC. Jesse over the Ox any day.
Well, on injuries you've just got to take a leap of faith and assume Arsenal are just shit at it. As for Lingard, I do rate him a lot higher than 99% of this forum but Ox is visibly more talented. He's a better dribbler, probably quicker, better close control and more versatile. As for where he would play I'm quite certain that given a run of games either out wide or through the middle (more likely here I feel) he'll win people over. His biggest problem has been getting that run of games either because he's injured or because Arsenal usually have a gazillion attacking players to spread games through.
Whether we can afford to give him that run of games is a different issue. I had the same feeling with Sturridge when he was available. People are far too quick to write talented young players off especially if they are English.
Fair fecks mate, that's a fair argumentation, may indeed be me who just underrates him.
He'd be stupid to leave Arsenal now. He struggles with game time anyway, so he should actually look at the likes of Sanchez leaving as a chance to step up and make it his spot in the team.
Sanchez has played as a striker or wide forward. Ox isn't that kind of player, he's not a goal scorer, not a striker. And even when he plays on the wing he's more a Ox a winger than a wide forward.
Sanchez leaving doesn't mean more game time for Ox
I know this is weird but very rarely have we looked to buy first team WC players & found them to have worked. Our most successful transfers are players who have a level to improve; whether that's due to age or a new challenge.
He should go to Liverpool and work with Klopp. Perfect manager for him, could see him becoming a star there.
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Mourinho mostly prefers specialists.
He needs to be either a midfielder or a winger. Not sure he excels at either positions. Squad player at best.
He needs to be either a midfielder or a winger. Not sure he excels at either positions. Squad player at best.
RvP's success here relative to Falcao had nothing to do with being 'Premier proven.' It had more to do with the health of Falcao's knees.
That was Sir Alex. Mourinho has an impeccable record at finding an eleven's weakness and rectifying it with a first-teamer in the window.
In any case, Ox isn't good enough for me in the long term as well. In the words of Keano, everyone needs to relax, he's just having a good week (said originally also for an Arsenal player).
Two questions, what do people consider his best position to be, and how much would he cost?
Just gone off early against Lincoln. Looks like an injury.
Probably the main reason we shouldn't go after him. His injury record is awful.
Probably the main reason we shouldn't go after him. His injury record is awful.
Hope it's not too bad
I personally signed him on FM a few years ago and he ended up winning world player of the year with us.
For real though, I do like him as a player and think he'd be a good player to add for cover, if not as a starter.
For real though, I do like him as a player and think he'd be a good player to add for cover, if not as a starter.
His attributes remind me of a young Valencia. Wonder how well he could play at right back 
Would definitely be worth a punt, he would add to our English quota (which will probably suffer in the Summer) and could provide good competition to a few players in our squad. It's hard to fairly judge anyone playing under Wenger nowadays, he has turned Ozil into Kaku.
Would definitely be worth a punt, he would add to our English quota (which will probably suffer in the Summer) and could provide good competition to a few players in our squad. It's hard to fairly judge anyone playing under Wenger nowadays, he has turned Ozil into Kaku.Who?
A Kaka/Kanu hybrid.
If he isn't too expensive he would be a decent buy imo. Looks one of the only players in that Arsenal squad who doesn't look like piss when things aren't going their way, played well in the Bayern games even when they were getting spanked. English, can play multiple positions and would be good for rotation. Not a starter but a good option.
He's decent but we should be aiming higher, surely? I don't see him as a big improvement on Lingard, who also fulfils the young English attacker criteria. He isn't a player i can see being first choice for us. We also have Pereira looking like a really good prospect and they play similar positions
Would take him to Replace Ashley young as a wide winger to add more depth and balance to the squad if he is okay with a squad role
Isn't that what he's not after?
Having said that, if he wants a big club in the top 5, he may need to settle for that. Clearly talented though, I can see a midfield/wing back future for him
Kanuka?
If he wants to compete for trophies and a better pay rise than why not take our chances and flirt with him. Danny Welbeck left united as he wanted main role up top which he clearly aint getting at arsenal still he moved. Also Arsenal are going out of top 4 this year most likely so we have our chances . Quick Versatile can play wide can play wing back can make impact off the bench can fill in for Martial and Mkh, I think we should take our chances . He'll only get a starting role at clubs like west ham or everton if he wants to go that way , I am also sure Liverpool's and Klopp's eyes will be on him but they aint winning anything big .
He is a shrewed signing for anyone, and mourinho would like to add him, So will Klopp and Klopp is good at it.
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Why Lingard he's cam player , Would sell Young to china for 10 m and Sell Januzaj to a Spanish or a german club with a buy back clause and loan pierera again to continue his fabulous development . Use the money to get him.
Mourinho is a adaptible and a Flexible manager and that has shown with his tactics and formation tweaks. As far as i know Mourinho he's a shrewed manager and one who wants to Fit into United way. I think OX will be a pretty Shrewed signing. Since we Missed Mane i think he'll be a hit at united.
"I am more a manager that likes specialists rather than multi-functional players because I am clear in my approach. Multi-functional players – you need one or two if you have three central defenders injured. But, basically, I want specialists."
"This is a direct quote from Jose"
Why are people saying Lingard + cash. Surely we need to have a squad to fight on all fronts and Jesse is an academy product. I'd certainly take Ox but as an addition. No harm in having Lingard, Ox, Micky, Mata and Martial as wide options and tucked in behind a striker.
Well its not written in stone, When he came on he was bullish in his tactics , team selection and Playing his way early on , Since the 3 defeats early on in the season specially against chelsea he has learnt that he needs to apadt to the qualities of this squad and his players and since we have seen him Playing attacking Posession based football.
There is only one wide player in the squad at the moment who we can call as a winger Which is Ashley young who is 32 And if you are to play Conter attacking dynamics you need wide players , I dont see any cheaper wide player than OX who is a specialist and good enough to play in united.
Mourinho has himself said recently that he would not have sold Danny welbeck from the team but he too was nither a specialist striker for a top club same is the case with Ox
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Would use him as a CM and develop him there, he seems best in that position too.
Kaku apparently...
His attributes remind me of a young Valencia. Wonder how well he could play at right back
Blessing Kaku, played a game or two for Bolton a while back. Not the best player, world class name. Wonder if we could get buy one get one free for Sanchez and Oxlade. Woodie should chuck 60 million at Wenger, no way he could turn it down.
Him and Sunday Oliseh would have very religious team
Could play with Deli Allah and Diego Godin
Can't tell if you purposefully changed Dele Ali's name for a forced joke, or seriously think its Allah
Can't tell if you purposefully changed Dele Ali's name for a forced joke, or seriously think its Allah
Godin.
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