Nothing. It’s United fans getting overly attached to youth without being able to be objective about it.
Alejandro Garnacho (out)
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Roberto?
If it is, it's a PSR ploy to get Osimhen.
I'd be livid if we sold Garnacho to fund an Osimhen transfer
Correct.
He's consistently in those lists of most valuable young players in the world, in top 3 most recently, plays in the national team, just won a Puskas award. I wouldn't sell him now, wile his stock is relatively low, makes zero sense, his value will only go up. Even in the summer there will be a better market for him, plus PL is the place to sell him high, if we don't want him, not fecking serie A. His value in the summer in the PL is 65m+ surely, Arsenal, Chelsea would surely look at him.
This. If we really want to cash in then in the summer. With our form beingbetter and better his value will go up. 80m or no deal.
There's no evidence yet that we're in any rush to sell him. Napoli might be interested but I doubt we'll be entertaining any lowball bids, it'd have to take a significant offer.
I have to say I wouldn't really understand the outrage if we do end up selling for a good fee though. Garnacho has some promise, yes, but he isn't irreplaceable. I'd obviously prefer if we looked to sell other players first but I'm not sure you can dismiss a sale out of hand if we were able to get somewhere c. £60-80m for him.
Would have mixed feelings on selling him. On one hand he is a very good young prospect and could become an exceptional player in a few years time.
On the other hand I don't see a natural position for him in the formation Amorim wants to play and the impact on PSR would give us more flexibility in the transfer market.
On the other hand I don't see a natural position for him in the formation Amorim wants to play and the impact on PSR would give us more flexibility in the transfer market.
It's not. Random shit Italian click bait Twitter accounts are claiming that Conte wants him and that they want to offer 45m. That can all be true and yet mean absolutely nothing to the deal, as he is a United player who recently signed a long term contract so we can just... Say no. But it's likely not true anyway, otherwise Di Marzio or Fabrizio would report on it.
What would the price be if we were trying to sign him from Napoli?
This pretty much sums up my stance on the issue too.
I think it would be a pretty bold, perhaps cynical, move but I can see its merits.
We need a boost for this new era under Amorim and selling Garnacho for a big fee, as hard as that would be, might be just the injection we need. Like when Liverpool sold Coutinho to Barcelona.
I’d be worried about our ability to reinvest the money wisely though.
Makes sense to sell him for the right price. Allows us to strengthen the team with someone who is a better fit
Probably the most overhyped young football player ever! He’s a bang-average talent, I just don’t get the hype. He wasn’t even that impressive in the academy. He can’t dribble, he can’t shoot, he lacks technical ability, he hasn’t got anything special to offer.
We're talking about a 20 year old youth academy product who's put in brilliant numbers for his age in a struggling team, has scored exceptional goals, and is always fighting on the pitch. He even looks like he's adapting to that 'inside' role as Amorim calls it. He's got the ability and desire to be great under good mentorship, and we're selling him for peanuts to Napoli? Surely this can't be true.
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We are getting quoted the sort of numbers Liverpool and City sell their back ups for. We should be demanding £60 million plus or a player exchange on Osinhem or Kvaratskhelia . Laughable
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We are getting quoted the sort of numbers Liverpool and City sell their back ups for. We should be demanding £60 million plus or a player exchange on Osinhem or Kvaratskhelia . Laughable
Not that I’m saying we should sell Garna but that list above isn’t going to generate much cash
95M€ + full coverage volcano insurance
Why? We'd be much much better off on the pitch in that scenario and I'm sure Amorim would agree
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I don't think replacing him is that difficult now that we have a couple experienced football heads in the building. The issue is on selling him for the right fee, anything under £60m is a foolish move.
I think he can be moulded into any forward position other than the 9, he is that versatile. I believe he can be coached into becoming a player that can do well on the inside, he is still young and there is still time. With Rashford going, Zirkzee having difficulty settling into the league and Hoijlund looking like a dud we don't want to leave ourselves with too much to do in the summer considering the scale of the job elsewhere on the pitch.
I am with you that I am torn on whether to sell or keep but at the current offer, if it doesn't rise by at least £20m, then it's an easy decision to make. We need a big fee enough to enable us to bring in a LWB and another forward so that's something approaching £70m. If not then keep him, he is earning his keep anyway, it's not like he is Casemiro or Shaw.
It feels a lot like when Rossi/Pique left, we picked them up late in their development and they moved on. Better to let players move on too early than too late, which has been a major issue the past 10 years.
You bought him for £400K, if you sell him 4 years later for £40 mil that's not too shabby!
Not sure I agree. He maybe lacks a bit of passing and dribbling in tight spaces to play as an AM. I can see a WB position more likely but maybe he lacks the defensive side of the game.
If will sell either Garnacho or Mainoo I’ll have a proper hissy fit.
Yeah right… first it is stupid to sell your best youth player, and also against the clubs tradition. And funny how low the price seems to be in such an inflated market. I call bullshit
Agreed, I don’t think he has a high ceiling personally purely based on his technique.
Tell me a better young 20 year old player outside of Yamal that could replace him
I would not personally want to see him sold unless the player himself comes out and actively starts pushing for a move and stating he is unhappy at the Club. Yes we have issues with PSR and cash flow but the current moves being made by INEOS are intended to resolve those and selling Garnacho is not a necessary part of that, the deep dive in the Athletic recently made it clear that we can be in a pretty decent position soon without resorting to selling off our most promising youngsters.
Considering what you get for 40 mil these days, I rather keep him.
Would be a shame to see him go.
Yep. Zirkzee cost that!
Due to a release clause no less
I don't think he's necessarily a level above any of Gittens, Guler, Yildiz, Endrick, maybe Minteh at Brighton.
I wouldn't be selling him for 40m, but right now if I had to guess, I think we're looking at a Trossard or Jota level player rather than a Salah/Saka/Palmer. He's dangerous and direct, but has poor decision making (which he can fix) and often pretty rushed/sloppy technique on the ball (which I'm not sure he can) - without the real top end blistering pace that would make up for it.
Am I weird in thinking that I don’t really think of him as an academy product? I mean technically yes he is but I think it’s a bit disingenuous.
Wow, I didn't actually know that!
We paid slightly more to structure the deal in our favour.
You don’t lose a player like him. You build teams around players like him. Young goal scorer who performs in big games. It’s madness that you think it’s a good idea. Yes fecking crazy.
He's not as good as you think he is.
Try squeeze 50 mil and run !
I know.