Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year

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pocco said:
Not now he isn't as highly regarded, but he was very highly rated at PSG. His stock has fallen, probably in part due to his antics, whereas FDJ (who was barely mentioned by anybody prior to this saga) has somehow managed to retain his hype. Rabiot was a much more powerful and industrious player, very hard working but still a very good player. Shared similar traits to FDJ. FDJ is more elegant but harder to fit into a system because he is so niche. You can see in the videos below a bit of what Rabiot was (and hopefully still is) as a player.



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He left PSG on a free at the age of 24. Did they fight tooth and nail to keep him? Juventus fans are pinching themselves that we're spending £20m on him, whereas with Barca fans they seem absolutely gutted about FDJ leaving. De Jong wasn't spoken about because nobody thought it was possible to get him. In fact the only reason he is being linked with moves away is because Barca are in dire straits financially. The two situations don't seem comparable at all.

I also find it odd that you'd use videos of his time in PSG. He's been in Italy for three years. His performances there are what we should be looking at.
 
redcucumber said:
He left PSG on a free at the age of 24. Did they fight tooth and nail to keep him? Juventus fans are pinching themselves that we're spending £20m on him, whereas with Barca fans they seem absolutely gutted about FDJ leaving. De Jong wasn't spoken about because nobody thought it was possible to get him. In fact the only reason he is being linked with moves away is because Barca are in dire straits financially. The two situations don't seem comparable at all.

I also find it odd that you'd use videos of his time in PSG. He's been in Italy for three years. His performances there are what we should be looking at.
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PSG tried to extend him for several seasons and eventually tried to force his hand by excluding from the group in the middle of the season after he rejected an other offer.
 
He had some problems with PSG, but who gives a feck about PSG? They themselves are a problem.

He's had no issues at juve, been an important player for them no matter what their petulant fans say.
 
DevilRed said:
If we do manage to sign rabiot, FDJ and maybe SMS, I’d love to see Mctominay play at centre back. I think that position might suit him more. Plays there for Scotland at times?
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I for one suggested we'd be better off if we used Martinez money to sign additional midfielder (to the one we're chasing now, whoever that is) and have COMPLETELY new midfield while McTominay would be a nice CB backup.
 
Underwhelming signing. Don‘t like the player. €18-20m isn‘t that much, but there‘s this feeling, that we could have gotten a significantly lower fee if we had someone on the negotiation team who knows what he’s doing. Will most likely go through, though, it seems… Hope we can at least sign him on lower wages than he is now, but doubt it.
 
Shark said:
What will his wages be though. If he ends up stinking up the place will we be stuck with him for years?
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These are some of the wages we are currently paying
Cristiano F 37 £26,800,000 £515,385
David De Gea GK 31 £19,500,000 £375,000
Jadon Sancho F 22 £18,200,000 £350,000
Raphael Varane D 29 £17,680,000 £340,000
Anthony Martial F 26 £13,000,000 £250,000
Bruno Fernandes M 27 £12,480,000 £240,000
Marcus Rashford F 24 £10,400,000 £200,000
Harry Maguire D 29 £9,875,000 £189,904
Christian Erik M 30 £7,800,000 £150,000
Luke Shaw D 27 £7,800,000 £150,000
Frederico de P M 29 £6,240,000 £120,000
Victor Lindelof D 28 £6,240,000 £120,000
Lisandro Mart D 24 £6,240,000 £120,000
Donny van de B M 25 £6,240,000 £120,000
Aaron Wan-Biss D 24 £4,680,000 £90,000

Rabiot reportedly earns around €7m per year with Juve, which equates to roughly £113,000 ($137,000) per week that is close to what Donny van De Beek, Fred and Lindelof earn. Even if give a raise on that it won be too high, and Im sure he will offer a lot more in a much needed position for us.

I would be more concerned with the high wages of players that are already in the team who have not showed their worth for past many seasons.
 
kunal18 said:
These are some of the wages we are currently paying
Cristiano F 37 £26,800,000 £515,385
David De Gea GK 31 £19,500,000 £375,000
Jadon Sancho F 22 £18,200,000 £350,000
Raphael Varane D 29 £17,680,000 £340,000
Anthony Martial F 26 £13,000,000 £250,000
Bruno Fernandes M 27 £12,480,000 £240,000
Marcus Rashford F 24 £10,400,000 £200,000
Harry Maguire D 29 £9,875,000 £189,904
Christian Erik M 30 £7,800,000 £150,000
Luke Shaw D 27 £7,800,000 £150,000
Frederico de P M 29 £6,240,000 £120,000
Victor Lindelof D 28 £6,240,000 £120,000
Lisandro Mart D 24 £6,240,000 £120,000
Donny van de B M 25 £6,240,000 £120,000
Aaron Wan-Biss D 24 £4,680,000 £90,000

Rabiot reportedly earns around €7m per year with Juve, which equates to roughly £113,000 ($137,000) per week that is close to what Donny van De Beek, Fred and Lindelof earn. Even if give a raise on that it won be too high, and Im sure he will offer a lot more in a much needed position for us.

I would be more concerned with the high wages of players that are already in the team who have not showed their worth for past many seasons.
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Need to keep in mind that European wages are more often than not reported net, after tax
 
bosnian_red said:
It'll be him next to Fred and then Eriksen (my pick) or Bruno. Which honestly isn't too bad of a trio. Has a lot of energy and rabiot is miles better defensively and on the ball technique wise than McTominay is. He plays it safe as a passer but he is much more technically gifted at running with the ball than the joke McTominay tries to do, and is just much better defensively.
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From the stats comparison the other guy posted here yesterday for last two seasons, he and McT are clones of each other. He is better in some passing stats but a little bit worse in defense aspect.
Of course, these stats need to be interpreted in context, the system and the role they have been asked to play. I tend to guess he is playing the similar role in Juventus as does McT in our system.
 
redcucumber said:
He left PSG on a free at the age of 24. Did they fight tooth and nail to keep him? Juventus fans are pinching themselves that we're spending £20m on him, whereas with Barca fans they seem absolutely gutted about FDJ leaving. De Jong wasn't spoken about because nobody thought it was possible to get him. In fact the only reason he is being linked with moves away is because Barca are in dire straits financially. The two situations don't seem comparable at all.

I also find it odd that you'd use videos of his time in PSG. He's been in Italy for three years. His performances there are what we should be looking at.
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Because we were talking about Rabiot at PSG. Why on earth would I post videos of his time at Juve??

They didn't fight for him because of the shit that went down with him, though I believe they didn't really want to lose him and a lot of big teams were in for him (which big teams are queuing up for FDJ?)

Regarding FDJ, what I was saying is that I've not heard anybody say how good he is or how well he is playing, or how he's this and that, since he played at Ajax. He's a forgotten man until we made him relevant again. Barca fans aren't all gutted about him going at all, I think they all realise Bernardo Silva is a massive upgrade. Many are giving him pelters on social media for not leaving or accepting the wage reduction.
 
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Looking at his overall stats he seems to be a big upgrade on Mctominay , I think he's a good player and worth the risk. He dominated Fred and mctominay when we played them in the champions league. The worry is his time at Juventus hasn't been impressive but maybe it's their system. All their midfielders stats dropped last season. Ten hag might get the best out of him. Worth a punt for the price I think. Having read the Juventus forums too they are saying he didn't have any attitude problems or any he had were exaggerated.
 
You have to deal with:

- what's available
- who's willing to come

That means you can't just sign anyone you want. Passing up the good option in order to wait for the perfect one often leads to disaster. Or a midfield of McFred all season.

I like Rabiot...I think he'll add a ton of value and options. I don't see a downside to this at all. He has flaws, but not as many as we have currently. I don't know if people noticed but a 30 year old Eriksen was our best player this week. We need players.
 
pocco said:
Because we were talking about Rabiot at PSG. Why on earth would I post videos of his time at Juve??

They didn't fight for him because of the shit that went down with him, though I believe they didn't really want to lose him and a lot of big teams were in for him (which big teams are queuing up for FDJ?)

Regarding FDJ, what I was saying is that I've not heard anybody say how good he is or how well he is playing, or how he's this and that, since he played at Ajax. He's a forgotten man until we made him relevant again. Barca fans aren't all gutted about him going at all, I think they all realise Bernardo Silva is a massive upgrade. Many are giving him pelters on social media for not leaving or accepting the wage reduction.
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Because you said you hope he still has what made him a talent at PSG. There's three years worth of performances of his time at Juve to make judgements about whether or not he'll be suitable for us. The conversation about De Jong at Ajax and Rabiot at PSG was just about who was more well regarded within football at that time. From what I remember, De Jong was seen as a more special player.

The situation with De Jong's contract is making it extremely complicated and practically unworkable. It's not a stretch to assume teams just don't want to get involved with Barca. Rabiot is much more straightforward and yet we seemingly have a free run at him.

I've seen different stuff than you have with regards to Barca fans impression of De Jong. The Barca subreddit were lamenting the prospect of losing him as they see him as one of a few players with elite level ability. On the flipside, Juve fans can't believe their luck.
 
city-puma said:
From the stats comparison the other guy posted here yesterday for last two seasons, he and McT are clones of each other. He is better in some passing stats but a little bit worse in defense aspect.
Of course, these stats need to be interpreted in context, the system and the role they have been asked to play. I tend to guess he is playing the similar role in Juventus as does McT in our system.
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Nah it's never really a clear comparison just doing that, especially with defensive stats. Rabiot was highly rated at PSG as a DM. Apparently didn't want to play DM which was the issue. He's always been a good runner with the ball, good close control and technique, neat and tidy but unambitious passing. I'd guess we would get him to be a defensive box to box guy. And then use Fred as the DLP or Eriksen as the DLP. From what I've seen the past day and read from a good chunk, he's a non stop runner, always fit, and vastly superior to McTominay defensively. So yeah. I'm ok with it.
 
JPRouve said:
Going out after a game isn't bad or good, players do not have to stay at home. He was once late a meeting, which happens all the time and isn't a sign of being unprofessional, he was a starter for Tuchel and one of the deputee captains.

And there is no circus, there is people that try to exaggerate every little things, that's what you have been doing in this thread multiple times which is frankly ridiculous.
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I have been doing it multiple times? I said it once, then you asked me why I said it, hence I gave you examples. You then decided those instances don’t count for God knows what reason. All of that, is frankly ridiculous. Cya
 
bosnian_red said:
Nah it's never really a clear comparison just doing that, especially with defensive stats. Rabiot was highly rated at PSG as a DM. Apparently didn't want to play DM which was the issue. He's always been a good runner with the ball, good close control and technique, neat and tidy but unambitious passing. I'd guess we would get him to be a defensive box to box guy. And then use Fred as the DLP or Eriksen as the DLP. From what I've seen the past day and read from a good chunk, he's a non stop runner, always fit, and vastly superior to McTominay defensively. So yeah. I'm ok with it.
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My interpretation is that he will replace Fred to partner with McT or others. It might work. We will know what kind of system changes ETH will do next week.
 
pogbasformerbarber said:
You have to deal with:

- what's available
- who's willing to come

That means you can't just sign anyone you want. Passing up the good option in order to wait for the perfect one often leads to disaster. Or a midfield of McFred all season.

I like Rabiot...I think he'll add a ton of value and options. I don't see a downside to this at all. He has flaws, but not as many as we have currently. I don't know if people noticed but a 30 year old Eriksen was our best player this week. We need players.
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That's how I feel. The off the pitch stuff bothers me but he's technical gifted and someone who will add to the buildup play I'll take this signing. ETH must be confident of taking him to his potential.
 
city-puma said:
My interpretation is that he will replace Fred to partner with McT or others. It might work. We will know what kind of system changes ETH will do next week.
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Nah for me he's a clear McTominay replacement. Physically similar, and role wise would pick up a similar role. Just much better. Fred is more technical, more adventurous with his passing, more capable of being a quick link up guy. Frenkie and Rabiot could partner each other, but Frenkie isn't happening so my guess would be Fred/Eriksen next to Rabiot. Fred sometimes. Eriksen when Fred forgets how to pass like on the weekend.
 
Sort of an interesting one in that Rabiot has all the ability in the world but does not appear to have been heading in the right direction for a while. Seems unlikely we could get the best of him but we would have quite the player if somehow we could.
 
NewYorkRed said:
I have been doing it multiple times? I said it once, then you asked me why I said it, hence I gave you examples. You then decided those instances don’t count for God knows what reason. All of that, is frankly ridiculous. Cya
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You keep mischaracterizing him. It started with the prick comment, then claiming that he was unprofessional and dropped because of it. Rabiot is neither a prick nor unprofessional which is why he was one of PSG's deputee captains.
 


Positive contact today between #MUFC and the entourage of #Rabiot : there is still no agreement, but the dialogue is developing positively
 
kunal18 said:
These are some of the wages we are currently paying
Cristiano F 37 £26,800,000 £515,385
David De Gea GK 31 £19,500,000 £375,000
Jadon Sancho F 22 £18,200,000 £350,000
Raphael Varane D 29 £17,680,000 £340,000
Anthony Martial F 26 £13,000,000 £250,000
Bruno Fernandes M 27 £12,480,000 £240,000
Marcus Rashford F 24 £10,400,000 £200,000
Harry Maguire D 29 £9,875,000 £189,904
Christian Erik M 30 £7,800,000 £150,000
Luke Shaw D 27 £7,800,000 £150,000
Frederico de P M 29 £6,240,000 £120,000
Victor Lindelof D 28 £6,240,000 £120,000
Lisandro Mart D 24 £6,240,000 £120,000
Donny van de B M 25 £6,240,000 £120,000
Aaron Wan-Biss D 24 £4,680,000 £90,000

Rabiot reportedly earns around €7m per year with Juve, which equates to roughly £113,000 ($137,000) per week that is close to what Donny van De Beek, Fred and Lindelof earn. Even if give a raise on that it won be too high, and Im sure he will offer a lot more in a much needed position for us.

I would be more concerned with the high wages of players that are already in the team who have not showed their worth for past many seasons.
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You need to reduce our players wages by 25%.
 
Apparently Monaco are also interested, and Veronique won't talk to United until after the game between Monaco and PSV, to see if Monaco make the CL.

Two reasons to cheer on Monaco, they take Rabiot, frees up Gakpo.
 


Imagine we get rejected by Rabiot! :lol:
 
Does anyone think that ETH could deal with his clear attitude? Maybe he could be the guy to get a tune out of Rabiot?

I'd personally like to think so, is he even considered for the French squad? I don't follow international football, he could use us as a platform to get him into contention for the world cup in the next couple of months.
 
Monaco beat PSV: We get Gakpo
PSV beat Monaco: We get Rabiot

Is this the situation based on reports now? If so, I'm kind of hoping Monaco win.
 
kunal18 said:
These are some of the wages we are currently paying
Cristiano F 37 £26,800,000 £515,385
David De Gea GK 31 £19,500,000 £375,000
Jadon Sancho F 22 £18,200,000 £350,000
Raphael Varane D 29 £17,680,000 £340,000
Anthony Martial F 26 £13,000,000 £250,000
Bruno Fernandes M 27 £12,480,000 £240,000
Marcus Rashford F 24 £10,400,000 £200,000
Harry Maguire D 29 £9,875,000 £189,904
Christian Erik M 30 £7,800,000 £150,000
Luke Shaw D 27 £7,800,000 £150,000
Frederico de P M 29 £6,240,000 £120,000
Victor Lindelof D 28 £6,240,000 £120,000
Lisandro Mart D 24 £6,240,000 £120,000
Donny van de B M 25 £6,240,000 £120,000
Aaron Wan-Biss D 24 £4,680,000 £90,000

Rabiot reportedly earns around €7m per year with Juve, which equates to roughly £113,000 ($137,000) per week that is close to what Donny van De Beek, Fred and Lindelof earn. Even if give a raise on that it won be too high, and Im sure he will offer a lot more in a much needed position for us.

I would be more concerned with the high wages of players that are already in the team who have not showed their worth for past many seasons.
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Feck sake, Sancho is not on £350k a week, that myth needs to die in fire and very very quickly.

Martial is also on closer to £180k a week supposedly.

Plus the players have taken a wage cut since then.

Not sure where your figures are from but it's a very suspect source!!
 
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