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Worth buying for that alone
can always end with “he’s built like a house and he hates all the scouse that’s traore”
Worth buying for that alone
Outside of United I never hear anyone talk about James. You guys tend to overrate your players more than any fans. For years I been hating how great Shaw is and never saw it
Sorry because I have a different opinion than yourself ? If Traore is so good why does he not start every game for Wolves ? So instead of telling me I've no clue maybe you should enlighten me and tell me all about Traore being so good
I think it's decent. He's being up there this season.
Eerily familiar opinionsRedcafes opinion on Mane in 2015:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sadio-mané.408248/
The state of replies in that thread.Eerily familiar opinions
I have watched pretty much every game James has played for United and never thought he is really good passer. I have watched Traore many times and I seen top teams players actually being scared of the guy and constantly double up. Very few players in the league gets the attention he gets. Robertson was bricking it and Mane played left back with him. But the most shocking thing is some people here actually say he is not good dribbler. But this is football. We can watch the same games and see different things. James will become a solid player. But I just don’t see a top tier player. Adamas potential is way higherI am not so sure it is - James has some qualities Traore doesn't have. James actually is a very good passer of the ball - Traore is not.
I think James is doing fine for a player that has just come from the championship. 3 G & 6 A in the PL is a very good return in half a season, since he is also playing on the right and not on the left, which is his favoured position. Adama is better than James technically and looks like he is finally having end product as well. If he maintains this level, I would like United to put a bid for him in the summer.I have watched pretty much every game James has played for United and never thought he is really good passer. I have watched Traore many times and I seen top teams players actually being scared of the guy and constantly double up. Very few players in the league gets the attention he gets. Robertson was bricking it and Mane played left back with him. But the most shocking thing is some people here actually say he is not good dribbler. But this is football. We can watch the same games and see different things. James will become a solid player. But I just don’t see a top tier player. Adamas potential is way higher
We haven't been linked with him but some "journalist" will read this thread and create a story out of it to get the lovely clicks.Are we linked to him? He is an explosive player of the mould of a Bolasie or Moussa Dembele. The kind that can create moments of brilliance and get the crowd going. Also wins the teams a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas. Players such as these can go both ways..for every Mane there is a Bolasie.
James is a better finisher as stats tell us he also has more assists and he is just a all round better player . He puts in a shift for his team even when he isn't playing well . Traore struggles to get into the Wolves side on a regular basis. He has the potential to be brilliant with his pace and power but he doesn't seem to have the football brain that James has .
Sorry because I have a different opinion than yourself ? If Traore is so good why does he not start every game for Wolves ? So instead of telling me I've no clue maybe you should enlighten me and tell me all about Traore being so good
OT but seriously, that is insane. Of course liverpool play long ball after long ball, Mane makes it basically unstoppableHe's been good but not as good as that for me. I suspect his dribbles per games stat is really helping him there. He, Zaha and Saint-Maximin are streets ahead of the rest of the league. Zaha isn't having as good a season as last in terms of goals and assists and is actually losing the ball quite often, Saint-Maximin has very little end product.
I think compared to Mane's numbers (seeing as he's being mentioned in the thread) Traore is behind in the more important things yet whoscored put him slightly ahead overall for the season so far:
Mane/Traore
Goals 10/4
Assists 6/4
Shots per game 2.4/1.3
Pass percentage 80.4/73.9
Passes per game 30.4/23
Key passes per game 1.9/1.3
Dribbles 1.7/5
Fouled 1.3/2.3
Dispossessed 1.9/1.6
Offside 0.3/0.2
Bad control 3.4/2.4
Crosses 0.2/1 (Not sure who to highlight, I've seen data that suggests crossing can be a bad thing)
Long ball 0.8/0.3 (I guess depends on team style of play/tactics)
Through balls 0.2/0.1 (As above)
Currently nowhere near good enough to be starting every week for a top 6 team but he'd be a very useful option off the bench for the last 20 minutes in games. Might be worth getting him if he'd be happy as a bit part player for us.
Have no clue about his ceiling as its all down to consistentcy but i recall playing middlesbrough a few years back and he come on late and first thing he did was bundle through half the team. He causes fear in teams.
This thread reminds me of all the people who said we should buy Fellaini. I've seen this guy play for Wolves in a couple games and he is a one trick pony. I can't stand the idea of such a limited player putting on the united shirt.
In fairness, he's precisely the type of player teams like Guardiola's will always suffer, pacey dribblers who can beat multiple men and turn transitions into quick counterattacks consistently. Same reason why his barca sides had nightmares about Di Maria
Fellaini was a standout against Cleverley and Anderson in midfield, neither knowing how to defend.
Traore has been a terror for Guardiola's City...
In fairness, he's precisely the type of player teams like Guardiola's will always suffer, pacey dribblers who can beat multiple men and turn transitions into quick counterattacks consistently. Same reason why his barca sides had nightmares about Di Maria
That said, that is an impressive skillset by itself. Now that he's adding end product and generally not wasting his work with dumb decisions, he's turning into a pretty scary player
Shame everyone around him was shit today
He had an interview close to new year's, where he said he "doesn't lift weights "and that his physique is "genetics".
Such a bullshitter, I'd check him for steroids
Physiques like his are attainable without weights and it is a combination of genetics and the type of training done. Not saying that's how he's attained his mass, but it isn't as improbable as you're making out.He had an interview close to new year's, where he said he "doesn't lift weights "and that his physique is "genetics".
Such a bullshitter, I'd check him for steroids
He was also a kid at Barca.he was about half the size at Barca
I don't know man. Calisthenics can make you ripped, yes. They can produce muscle as well, but not any kind of muscle; the tricep, bicep and brachialis that he's showcasing some posts above would be pretty impossible to get without going heavy + progressive overload though. So maybe he wasn't doing the classic thing and curling at the gym to get that bicep, but by way of calisthenics, he'd need to be doing some mean -weighted- chin-ups at least, to pack on that size.Physiques like his are attainable without weights and it is a combination of genetics and the type of training done. Not saying that's how he's attained his mass, but it isn't as improbable as you're making out.
Prime Mike Tyson didn't lift weights; plenty of calisthenic athletes and even just plain enthusiasts can be built and ripped to shreds etc. etc.
He was also a kid at Barca.
One-armed chins with legs tucked, or if you're truly elite, with legs fully extended horizontally, will give you a bicep,trap, back and shoulder set of epic proportions, but I guess we shouldn't get into all of that in a football thread.I don't know man. Calisthenics can make you ripped, yes. They can produce muscle as well, but not any kind of muscle; the tricep, bicep and brachialis that he's showcasing some posts above would be pretty impossible to get without going heavy + progressive overload though. So maybe he wasn't doing the classic thing and curling at the gym to get that bicep, but by way of calisthenics, he'd need to be doing some mean -weighted- chin-ups at least, to pack on that size.
Tyson was an exception, wasn't he a unit already at 14 years old?
Genius"Thats Amore"
Whennnnnn heeee, runs down the wing he's as fast as lightning thats Traore
When he sprints with the ball he just flies past them all thats Traore
When he glides on the grass and you fall on your arse thats Traore
If your names not Usain he'll go past you again Thats Traore
I’m pretty sure the human body doesn’t work like that.
Yeah I had just woke up and I’m sick so I read it wrong. I thought he said he didn’t exercise SorryIt does.