I genuinely don’t get it with the stadium. I think it’s absolutely fine.
ACTUAL POLL thread - how do you feel about potential Qatari ownership?
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I genuinely don’t get it with the stadium. I think it’s absolutely fine.
I don't think it'd cost as much. Just a new tier on the Stretford End and K Stand, joining them with the North Stand third tier and perhaps a smaller South Stand without the need to build over the tracks. We don't need a cinema complex or American style mall built in in to the stadium. Wider seats would be nice though.
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I treat all the homophobic women repressing scum the same, thank you. Whether here in the US or Qatar, makes no difference to me.
Have you been to any of the more modern stadiums?
New Wembley is horrible.
some people have no shame, then claim to become these social justice warriors.Each to their own I guess.
Old Trafford is really tired imo, leaky roofs tight seating etc.. Club like United should have state of the art facilities.
If this is true then we should be able to pay for it ourselves.
We should and can, but obviously the Glazers don't want to put the money back into the club.
Why do we need a new training ground right after upgrading and revamping the current one?
Thst sounds like a monumental waste of resources. Carrington was state of the art 20 years ago when it was constructed. In 2013 it had a £30m revamp with a new medical science department. So yes it'll need updating again of course.
But "in tatters"? Needs rebuilt?
Exaggeration.
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Some people go overboard with the negativity on the state of stadium, but it's absolutely clear that it needs massive investment in the near future. Only need to look at what the likes of Real Madrid and Barca are doing with their stadiums.
Richard Arnold already admitted that the Glazers do not have the money that's needed to do it either - this is exactly why they are looking to sell or get new investors.
Thus far Sheikh Jassim is the only one who has committed to invest in the stadium, training ground etc - for many (me included) that is the main reason to welcome his bid as that is in the best interests for the future of the club
I know, right. What does leftism have to do with United anyway? No history there.
Yeah but Ronaldo criticised the pool. I don’t think anyone was bothered about Carrington before that.
Barcelona and real Madrid don't own their stadiums, so it's a bit different.
Why is it different? They still have to pay for the refurbs
And I just mentioned them as clubs who are refurbing rather than build new (my personal preference). You can pick any number of big clubs who have spent big on new stadia in recent times - from Bayern to Spurs
He's very lucky that it was just a temp ban but it's good that the true colours have been shown
He's very lucky that it was just a temp ban but it's good that the true colours have been shown
I didn't do that! There's a ghost in the machine.
But he's a cnut, no doubt.
I'm sorry for getting a bit personal here bit "our mantra"? What does that mean? Were you involved in IMUSA in 95? Were you out protesting against Murdoch in 98? Were you still out protesting against the Glazers between 2005 and 2009 when the team was winning and Fergie was telling time served reds to "f**k off and watch Chelsea." The mantra was always getting the fans to have meaningful stake in the club not selling out to the first people that promised us a shiny new transfer.
You don't have to tell me about the Glazers. I've not given the wan**rs a penny for years. I've watched another football club (FCUM) for most of that time and stayed away from Old Trafford. I did that because I felt the soul of the club was lost, I still love the team but I've stayed away in protest.
A debt free owner would be great but I'm not sure anyone has provided enough evidence yet that they have the best interests of the club at heart.
It was a "wait and see" type mentality in 2005 that allowed us to go 18 years stuck with the Glazers. Let's not make the same mistake again.
Because they don't get the full value of it back, so it makes sense not to rebuild.
The refurb/new stadium build is more than just about the match day going fans. It's about making it a multipurpose venue, where you can increase the revenue and pump ut back into the club.
I am genuinely baffled. Is this something people care about?
When you see it you'll shit bricks.
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Yeah because want to get with times
Well, I have said it, so yeah, I do.
Seeing how PSG was managed by another Qatari owner, I don't think Qatari takeover would be a big negative to United, as per what you're trying to portray.
New ownership aside, homophobia is wrong. If you’re a homophobe, the way you are thinking is wrong.
Is it not already multi-purpose?
The rugby league grand final is there every year, there's been concerts, boxing etc. There's conferences/functions too. Every stadium is already multi-purpose I'd have thought.
I see this just as a transaction, and I don’t care about the morals involved. Qatar will continue with its laws no matter what us as United fans do, and not matter if they win the bid or not.
I’m just interested in an owner with the full capability to erase the debt, refurbish thetraining ground, build a new state of the art stadium and gives us a war chest for transfers that is the biggest in the world. Only Qatar can give us those things. Neither Sir Jim nor the Glazers backed by Elliot can.
PSG is a perfect example of why not. Financial Fair Play violations, a lack of vision to build good teams, a lack of development of their own talent.
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It‘s not just a transaction, is it? Everything we do has consequences.
So in other words, as long as you get a good show on Saturday afternoons, feck everyone else? How fun.
How Qatar not owning United will change their laws? How Qatar not owning United will increase women equality over there? You are confusing apples with oranges
Such as? Aside from us having bigger funds for the transfer window, building a new stadium, clearing the debt and upgrading the training grounds.
So it doesn’t matter the morals as long as it helps United? Such an incredibly bleak view.
I’m assuming we might as well let Greenwood back then? You’d have no issues there either?
That’s exactly what I think. As I said before, for me this is a transaction, not a moral debate. What I want it’s what is best economically speaking for the club.
Can you accept that not everyone thinks as you do?
About Greenwood, if ETH and his teammates are ok with him returning, then I am. He already have started a life with his partner and are actually aspecting a child together.
You literally come in here saying how you love the leftie years and then say “can you not accept that not everyone thinks as you do?”
I’m think you meant leftie tears instead of years. I just dislike the left wing as I dislike other things such as FC Barcelona (which I’m very vocal about), more so now considering a left wing president is ruining my country.
Bur to answer you:
I have never condemned the pro Sir Jim posters or even the ones who support the dreadful Elliot (who will be essentially allowing the Glazers to stay). I don’t come here pretending to be Superman or Jesus trying to look as the moral superior “holier than thou” as you do, belittling us who are pro Qatar as if our opinions didn’t matter and we were basically war criminals. All fans opinions are valid unless they belittle other fans opinion, and that is regardless of gender, nationality, or religion. For me the opinion of a Somalian Muslim fan weights the same as the opinion of a Mancunian born fan.
Sounds pretty left wing to me