flappyjay
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The fact that all of these signing had huge question marks on them was a red flag. Knowing our luck the red flags are coming to bite us.
I have yet to speak to a Chelsea fan who was sad to see Mount go. When watching him play for England it would be a surprise when the commentator mentioned him as he was often invisible. I dont get him as a player and I certainly dont get what he is meant to do in this current team. Antony is just not good enough and never will be, I think we need to be honest and say Hojlund for £70m was a joke. A punt at £20-30m maybe, but not a starter and not clear he has it to be oneIMO they are now looking worse than they actually are, that goes especially for Mount who I do rate. Amrabat and Onana are now playing on the level I expected them to play (obviously Onana is the reason we're out of the CL, but overall he's not been as bad and we've barely utilized his ball-playing ability as we prefer to play hoofball).
I have the biggest concerns about Hojlund ant Antony.
Out biggest signing has to be DoF, but it will not affect current situation quickly so I think we're in deep sh*t.
I generally agree but I do think Mount can be very useful for us if he is used properly. I think he's easier to accomodate than Bruno.I have yet to speak to a Chelsea fan who was sad to see Mount go. When watching him play for England it would be a surprise when the commentator mentioned him as he was often invisible. I dont get him as a player and I certainly dont get what he is meant to do in this current team. Antony is just not good enough and never will be, I think we need to be honest and say Hojlund for £70m was a joke. A punt at £20-30m maybe, but not a starter and not clear he has it to be one
Which striker hasn't? The fact is the likes of Haaland, Salah, Darwin miss so many easy chances but still score loads because of the sheer volume of chances created but at Manchester United, strikers get 1 clear chance in 2 games.Not really. He’s missed loads of good chances.
That's the role he did in the short time he has been here. I feel Mount is someone who does the basics, he can be a very good squad option for a Guardiola or a Klopp side but is not good enough to be specialist. He can do a job in just about any position he is deployed and that's not bad for a settled team but in team with glaring holes like us he can't do anything.I generally agree but I do think Mount can be very useful for us if he is used properly. I think he's easier to accomodate than Bruno.
The problem is he's been deployed in role that currently McTominay is playing and that design is flawed in the first place. MM needs to be more of a Fred/B2B role.
He’s not had many, that’s an objective fact.Not really. He’s missed loads of good chances.
Which striker hasn't? The fact is the likes of Haaland, Salah, Darwin miss so many easy chances but still score loads because of the sheer volume of chances created but at Manchester United, strikers get 1 clear chance in 2 games.
He’s not had many, that’s an objective fact.
Hojlund averages only 1.81 shots per 90, that’s lower than Garnacho (highest in our team at 3.81!), Rashford, McTominay, Bruno, Casemiro (!). And less than half of other CFS like Nunez, Haaland, Richarlison.
Being a striker for this Utd team is a thankless task, literally the entire creative cast behind you prefer to shoot thân to create. He’s fluffed a few but I won’t judge him a flop until he gets comparable services to the average CF in the league.
And Nunez who is called a donkey doesn’t have the same issue? Yet he still registers double the amount of shots.When he miscontrols, runs the wrong way or gets tackled due to his bad touch / hesitation, that is still a chance but not a shot. He looks so nervous on the ball that it even makes me feel nervous.
Any pass that ends in a shot is a ‘chance created’. So Bruno registers highly on that count because our wide forwards like to shoot, not saying a portion of them aren’t good chances that they fluff but the stat itself is misleading. It’s a closed loop, they have high shot counts because anytime Bruno passes to them they shoot, and Bruno in return has high chance creation stat from that, while the CF feeds off scrap. One of the reason we tend to play our best football with an in form Martial over anybody else is because he almost works as a pseudo 10/false 9 to generate actual chances for other.Bruno has created more chances than anyone else. Darwin, Haaland et al may miss chances, but at least they score a percentage of them. The only percentage Højlund has is 0%.
You're preaching to the choir here. I've consistently maintained, since long before he joined us, that the club shouldn't be run this way.It’s a failure of the club if ETH is deciding who to sign unilaterally. ETH signs who he feels he should sign if the club give him that power. It’s not how any big club is run and is destined for failure. The problem here is bigger than just ETH signing shit players.
It isn't Ten Hag's fault, these are all signings he identified and wanted though. Like all our previous manager's we need the recruitment team to save the managers from themselves. He shouldn't be the one having ultimate say on everyone we target / sign which is indicative of the failure of the club.Because our recruitment for the last 10 or more years has been so good, it must all be EtH's fault this summer.
The problem isn't this year's signings. It's last year's.
We paid Real Madrid 60 million for Casemiro's injuries, and we signed a one-footed winger with no pace for 80 million. Two shocking bits of business even by our standards.
Too early to call any of this summer's signings IMO.
And Nunez who is called a donkey doesn’t have the same issue? Yet he still registers double the amount of shots.
Any pass that ends in a shot is a ‘chance created’. So Bruno registers highly on that count because our wide forwards like to shoot, not saying a portion of them aren’t good chances that they fluff but the stat itself is misleading. It’s a closed loop, they have high shot counts because anytime Bruno passes to them they shoot, and Bruno in return has high chance creation stat from that, while the CF feeds off scrap. One of the reason we tend to play our best football with an in form Martial over anybody else is because he almost works as a pseudo 10/false 9 to generate actual chances for other.
It isn't Ten Hag's fault, these are all signings he identified and wanted though. Like all our previous manager's we need the recruitment team to save the managers from themselves.
No it isn't. We THOUGHT this is going to be the case, but once Mount joined Bruno was pushed deeper into #8 and now they both play quite advanced position (often Mount was the more advanced of the two, just like Scott is now).That's the role he did in the short time he has been here. I feel Mount is someone who does the basics, he can be a very good squad option for a Guardiola or a Klopp side but is not good enough to be specialist. He can do a job in just about any position he is deployed and that's not bad for a settled team but in team with glaring holes like us he can't do anything.
He was productive sometimes though, he was CL joint top scorer in the group stage.Nùñez scores goals and I think he’s Liverpool’s top assist provider this season too. If Højlund was at least productive sometimes, he could get away with some of his bad touches, spurned chances, and standing offside.
You're saying some of those names tongue in cheek....surely?Imagine if we didn't act like snobs towards mid table teams and brought tried and tested premier league players like mitrovic, watkins or even rodrygo for a forward or mcginn, ward prowse or madddison for midfield and either martinez, raya, pickford or sanchez for goalkeeper.
Bruno was pushed deeper due to injuries of Eriksen and Casemiro. Mount has never played the b2b role at Chelsea, he has either been an advanced midfielder or played in the wings.No it isn't. We THOUGHT this is going to be the case, but once Mount joined Bruno was pushed deeper into #8 and now they both play quite advanced position (often Mount was the more advanced of the two, just like Scott is now).
Mount doesn't need to be a specialist, he needs to perform more traditional B2B role with license to push forward, but his default position can't be behind the striker. Makes even less sense to shift Bruno, this is actually criminal idea.
IMO Mount can easily be very useful in this team if we stop this ridiculous experiment. The only advantage of this setup is that McTominay is like fish in a water, doesn't need to do anything but wait for the ball to fall to his feet or head.
All better than what we are now left with, I know mitrovic was a hated figure but he did score goals and we could do with more sh**housery players like him, we use to have them like keane and Cantona but in this day and age of people getting offended by the slightest thing these characters are now forced upon and just want bland technically gifted system playersYou're saying some of those names tongue in cheek....surely?
There were many, many posters stating he wasn't ready before we'd even purchased him. Turns out they were bang on the money so I'm not sure the bolded is true in the immediacy of the proceeding season. Whatever the kid is destined to be won't be revealed for a couple of seasons, if not more, so the onus should have been on getting support in or moving for a different profile. The burden of scoring should not be on a 20 year old, we didn't even do that to Rooney or Ronaldo, infinitely superior youngsters.Striker wise, Hojlund was the best we could have gotten.
99% of the CAF could have told you that Mount would be a failure even considering 99.99% of us are idiots.
Onana is a mystery to me. He single handedly took us out of the CL and he is also responsible for that non-penalty decision in the beginning of the season which has cost us so many points already. How did we get that one so wrong?