5 positions and the realistic 5 players to fill them ?

LB - Jonas Hector
CM - Kevin Strootman
RW - ?
LW - ?
ST - Rodrigo Moreno

Basically I have no idea but I do know there will be no world class signings for us.
 
wiz4231 said:
LB - Jonas Hector
CM - Kevin Strootman
RW - ?
LW - ?
ST - Rodrigo Moreno

Basically I have no idea but I do know there will be no world class signings for us.
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Strootman is not even fit to play for 90 minutes yet.
 
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Let's sign Stones, Kante, Griezmann and a full back, bring in one of Kane/Lukaku/Zlatan maybe. Easy. Job done. What's that Riyad Mahrez? You want to play for the glorious Manchester United too? Go on then.

Haha...If only.
 
settembrini said:
Why do so many people want us to buy Griezmann and then play him on the wing?

He used to play there and was pretty decent but he's clearly stepped up a level since moving upfront. Given how much he would cost I would hate for United to do yet another deal where they buy a player because of his excellent performances in one position and then insist he plays in another.
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Greizmann excels both wide and up front. Mourinho won't have a problem getting the best out of Greizmann wherever he's best deployed.

(This assumes, of course Jose is manager and we buy Antoine.)

The problem always comes back to how we will use Rooney, should it be impossible to sell him. If we drop him back into midfield, there's definitely room for Greizmann up front.
 
Spock said:
The problem always comes back to how we will use Rooney, should it be impossible to sell him. If we drop him back into midfield, there's definitely room for Greizmann up front.
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Benchwarmer for a year and then he may consider leaving.
 
Zlatan, Mahrez, Griezmann and, ideally, another winger for attack.

A top class addition in centre midfield and defence. Give Darmian another run, even though he has looked appalling.

Shift Rooney, Carrick, Fellaini, Jones minimum. Unfortunately, I don't see Rooney leaving this summer. No one will want him, except the Chinese league or MLS.


----------------- DDG

Darmian - Smalling - New CB - Shaw

---------- New CM -- Herrera

Mahrez -- Griezmann -- Martial

------------ Zlatan

Would be great to have a creative, goal-scoring attack again. Our current options there are terribly limited.
 
KingMinger22 said:
Zlatan, Mahrez, Griezmann and, ideally, another winger for attack.

A top class addition in centre midfield and defence. Give Darmian another run, even though he has looked appalling.

Shift Rooney, Carrick, Fellaini, Jones minimum. Unfortunately, I don't see Rooney leaving this summer. No one will want him, except the Chinese league or MLS.


----------------- DDG

Darmian - Smalling - New CB - Shaw

---------- New CM -- Herrera

Mahrez -- Griezmann -- Martial

------------ Zlatan

Would be great to have a creative, goal-scoring attack again. Our current options there are terribly limited.
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So just bin every young player who's come in or could do? No Rashford, no CBJ, no Fosu-Mensah, no Perreira..... etc, etc.

Are you Mourinho?

(P.S....agree with the players to be shifted out)
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
So just bin every young player who's come in or could do? No Rashford, no CBJ, no Fosu-Mensah, no Perreira..... etc, etc.

Are you Mourinho?

(P.S....agree with the players to be shifted out)
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The only one who would deserve to play is Rashford. Pereira has been non existent even under the lover of youth LvG. Shaw will come back in. CBJ has disappeared. TFM will have to wait his turn, he is good but nowhere near ready to be in the team week in, week out, he will get his chance in some games.
 
In:
Lukaku
Mahrez
Sanches
Toni Kroos
Stones

Out:
Mata
Carrick
Fellaini
Jones

-------------------------DDG--------------------------
Fosu-Mensah---Smalling----Stones----------Shaw
----------------------Kroos-------------------------
-----------Sanches---------Herrera--------------
Mahrez------------Lukaku------------Martial

Reserve:
Romero, J.Pereira
Blind, Rojo, Poole, CBJ, Darmian, Valencia, Varela
Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Rooney, Weir
Rashford, Depay, Lingard, Young, Januzaj
 
YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
Martial Zlatan Mahrez
Ander Kante
Xhaka
Shaw Blind Smalling Vale
DDG

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MyOnlySolskjaer said:
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Blind Shaw
TFM
Saúl Herrera
Mahrez--------------Martial
Zlatan​
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I like your formations. But... do you think Rooney is going to be on the bench? I can be wrong, but IMO he will start most of the games.
Assuming that Mourinho is our next manager, do you think he will play 433 instead of 4231?
 
I don't see that many of the formations being posted as that realistic I think we could add 3 maybe 4 players this summer at most and we need at least a couple of top class performers.

--------------------De Gea--------------------
Darmian-----Smalling----Stones-------Shaw
------------------Schniderlin------------------
----------Sanches----------Rooney-----------
----Griezmann----Ibrahimovic------Martial--

With Mourniho in charge I could see him having a field day with that team, Rashford would offer rotation with Ibrahimovic and provides someone that Ibrahimovic doesn't have in rapid pace. Rooney would need to step up in midfield but of course we also have schweinsteiger and Herrera who can replace any of those midfield positions. I'm not 100% taken on John stones right now, and my number 1 choice would be Hummels but it looks like he's nailed on going to Bayern. Overall with signing these players here it would probably cost us....

Ibrahimovic-free
Griezmann-£60-£80 million
Stones-£40
Sanches-£40
Total around £160 million
 
de Gea
Darmian Smalling Marquinhos Shaw
Schneiderlin
Saúl Sanches
Dembélé Griezmann Martial
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Almost totally unrealistic but that would sort most of the deficiencies in the side. I kept Darmian as the RB because there isn't an obvious replacement and I'm still semi-hopeful he can turn things around under different management.
 
Van Gaal just said:

"The club wanted me to sign for three years, not me. I signed for three years – so next year you will see me again." (I hope not)

So, in your opinion:
  • Which 5 players would LGV sign?
  • Which 5 players would Mourinho sign? (if he becomes our next manager)
And...
  • Which 5 players would you sign?
 
I'm not sure Van Gaal personally has a clue (aside from natives). More down to Woodward/United staff if Van Gaal is still in charge, at least I think anyway...

With Mourinho the Mendes targets will be the first priorities but he has his people to help him as well. If Mourinho is in charge it will be interesting to see how our transfer policy evolves and if Woodward will still have a major role in deciding our transfers.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Memphis and McNair, seriously? Also we spent a wee bit of money on Memphis. Shaw was great until the leg break. Varela and TFM looked good then at other times looked completely out of their depth.
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Last season, McNair was very good as a 19 year old playing in 18 different formations with 10 different partners in the middle. He struggled a bit this season but again he is very young and has hardly played. Shouldn't be written off. And yeah, they shelled out for Memphis and Shaw, which is why they shouldn't do it again. Not every player hits the ground running.

Although my post was slightly tongue in cheek, it is what I'd prefer to see from United, continuing the United identity rather than falling in line with PSG, Barca, Madrid, City, etc who just throw money at their issues when it clearly hasn't worked for United.
 
Fer said:
I like your formations. But... do you think Rooney is going to be on the bench? I can be wrong, but IMO he will start most of the games.
Assuming that Mourinho is our next manager, do you think he will play 433 instead of 4231?
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This is more what i want.

I'm not sure if Rooney will play next year under Mourinho, i really hope Mourinho realises he is not starting material anymore.

Mourinho will adapt to the players we have, could be 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
 
settembrini said:
Why do so many people want us to buy Griezmann and then play him on the wing?

He used to play there and was pretty decent but he's clearly stepped up a level since moving upfront. Given how much he would cost I would hate for United to do yet another deal where they buy a player because of his excellent performances in one position and then insist he plays in another.
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This is the problem with a lot of our signings and why we're so lopsided and unbalanced. We've got a 10 in Mata playing right wing, a striker in Martial playing left wing, a midfielder in Blind playing centre back and many others out of position so buying Greizmann to play him as a winger is no different to Mata there.

As the seasons coming to a close I'd be more inclined to sign Mahrez, Kane, Kante, Varane and Sanches seeing as Sanches looks very likely now although I'd personally prefer Dele Alli over Sanches which would see De Gea, Varela, Smalling, Varane, Shaw, Rooney, Kante, Alli, Mahrez, Kane, Martial as our best eleven.
 
I know we are going for Renato Sanches, and we could end up with Stones, Mane and a Mendes player. But I hope we can target quality players:

CB. Hummels/Laporte
CM. Gundogan/Kroos
RW. Dembele/Mahrez
10. Griezmann/James
ST. Kane/Ibrahimovic
De Gea
Darmian - Smalling - CB - Shaw
CM - Schneiderlin
RW - #10 - Martial
ST

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Fer said:
I know we are going for Renato Sanches, and we could end up with Stones, Mane and a Mendes player. But I hope we can target quality players:

CB. Hummels/Laporte
CM. Gundogan/Kroos
RW. Dembele/Mahrez
10. Griezmann/James
ST. Kane/Ibrahimovic
De Gea
Darmian - Smalling - CB - Shaw
CM - Schneiderlin
RW - #10 - Martial
ST

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Hummels is off to Bayern, Laporte is off to City and has a broken ankle.
Gundogan is probably off to City, Kroos will simply not join us.
Dembele is a possibility but is unlikely considering he could have his pick of many clubs before us. Why would Mahrez join a team that just performed worse than his that just won the league?
Griezmann is not happening IMO. He could stay at Atletico for years and has a good goal rate over there. James maybe, but again do we really need another #10?
Kane, eh unlikely again, Spurs are better than us. Ibra is the most realistic out of that entire list.

We are not the force we once were. Naturally, this means teams are less attracted to us. Slowly, if nothing happens, we will become Liverpool/Inter/AC Milan. The less success we get in the next three or so years the less attractive will be.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
So just bin every young player who's come in or could do? No Rashford, no CBJ, no Fosu-Mensah, no Perreira..... etc, etc.

Are you Mourinho?

(P.S....agree with the players to be shifted out)
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No chance should they be starting for United. If they make an impact from the bench, they can grow into the team. Banking on them is something that no other "big" club would even consider.

DomesticTadpole said:
The only one who would deserve to play is Rashford. Pereira has been non existent even under the lover of youth LvG. Shaw will come back in. CBJ has disappeared. TFM will have to wait his turn, he is good but nowhere near ready to be in the team week in, week out, he will get his chance in some games.
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This. And Rashford deserves playing time, not reliance as a week-in, week-out starter.

TitusCrumble said:
Hummels is off to Bayern, Laporte is off to City and has a broken ankle.
Gundogan is probably off to City, Kroos will simply not join us.
Dembele is a possibility but is unlikely considering he could have his pick of many clubs before us. Why would Mahrez join a team that just performed worse than his that just won the league?
Griezmann is not happening IMO. He could stay at Atletico for years and has a good goal rate over there. James maybe, but again do we really need another #10?
Kane, eh unlikely again, Spurs are better than us. Ibra is the most realistic out of that entire list.

We are not the force we once were. Naturally, this means teams are less attracted to us. Slowly, if nothing happens, we will become Liverpool/Inter/AC Milan. The less success we get in the next three or so years the less attractive will be.
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Disagree with this massively. Why would Mahrez leave Leicester to join United? Come on.

Griezmann is going to happen. We simply have to, and I think we will.
 
Spock said:
Greizmann excels both wide and up front. Mourinho won't have a problem getting the best out of Greizmann wherever he's best deployed.

(This assumes, of course Jose is manager and we buy Antoine.)

The problem always comes back to how we will use Rooney, should it be impossible to sell him. If we drop him back into midfield, there's definitely room for Greizmann up front.
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Tell him he won't feature, he'll ask to move & clubs from USA & China will be all over him. He's not unsaleable, as he's extremely marketable.

As for sticking him in midfield, it's been tried and he simply is not a top class midfielder. He looks like a striker being played out of position.
 
rooneyaldo said:
at some point in this thread, people forgot what the thread title mentioned. The word "realistic" is in there if you look.
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I pointed to that weeks ago too without any success of course. I like @Fer's post as it asks for two scenarios which would have very different realistic signings (LvG vs JM). The only scenario that's missing is IMHO which signings would be realistic if Giggsy gets the job next season.
 
Mourinho likely position shortlists somewhat realistic.

Keeper- Navas, Oblak, Butland.

centre back- Godin/ Chiellini(may be unable to attract either) Thiago Silva, Garay, Varane, Marquinhos, Stones.

Centre mid- Carvalho, Wanyama, Nainggolan, Xhaka.

Forward- James Rodriguez, Saul Niguez, Lucas Moura, Mané.

Striker- Higuain, Cavani, Morata, Benteke.

Gestifute clients are underlined, would be shocked if Mendes doesn't sell us at least 2 of his players if he puts together a deal for Mourinho.
 
Ramshock said:
Why are people saying LB is a position of need? we giving up on Shaw already?
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Ideally we'd pick up someone that plays both lb and rb, I didn't like seeing any of Blind, Rojo or Young covering there. Shaw is all set for a huge season once he gets back into it, he'll have had the best preseason possible.
 
Ramshock said:
Darmian is a left back too
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I just assumed Darmian would be our starting rb under Mourinho. A player to cover injury and rotate with both fullbacks would be useful, I'd like to think Big Tony V won't be that man.
 
----------------Ibrahimovic-----------------
Martial------Griezmann-----Dembele
-----------Sanches-------Saul--------------
Shaw--Marquinos--Small--Fabinho
---------------------De Gea-------------------

My 5 signings
Ibrahimovic - £0
Griezmann - £65m
Dembele - £25m
Saul - £35m
Sanches - £45m
Marquinos - £40m
Fabinho - £20m

£230m total to fix the whole team for a couple of years. Replace Ibra with someone like Kane if he becomes available in a year or two. Or move Griezmann up front and bring in someone like Pogba
 
Attila said:
----------------Ibrahimovic-----------------
Martial------Griezmann-----Dembele
-----------Sanches-------Saul--------------
Shaw--Marquinos--Small--Fabinho
---------------------De Gea-------------------

My 5 signings
Ibrahimovic - £0
Griezmann - £65m
Dembele - £25m
Saul - £35m
Sanches - £45m
Marquinos - £40m
Fabinho - £20m

£230m total to fix the whole team for a couple of years. Replace Ibra with someone like Kane if he becomes available in a year or two. Or move Griezmann up front and bring in someone like Pogba
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£230m..... is that all?
 
Attila said:
We can't afford it?
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Here's my 5 signings, then you lost the plot completely and signed 7 players, building one of the most unbalanced sides I've ever seen, in many ways, a lot of potential but boys still and when the winter comes they'd be dead tired trying to adapt to English football for the 1st time.
 
It's a bit hard to tell who's realistic to get and who's not, so I've put several players in each position as you can see. The 1st name in each position is the one I think is the most realastic ones to get(not the best players or the players I want the most), then it goes 2nd, 3rd and so on.

ST: Zlatan/Lukaku/Kane/Griezzmann
CM: Kante/A.Gomes/R.Sanches/Alli/Niguez/Gundogan
CB: Stones/Laporte/Marquinhos
RW:Mane/Mahrez/Sane
CAM:Calhanoglu/Barkley
 
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