5 positions and the realistic 5 players to fill them ?

[reddevilz007]

Pep will ruin our wishes of getting Stones and Pogba.
If Leicester and Spurs get into CL, forget Mahrez, Kane and Dele Alli. Those teams will look to add pieces to their established squad.

 

[KingMinger22]

Kane is coming. Platelets unrealistic if they get CL and we don't. I don't think they would sell to us for £120m even. The guy is a superstar. Why sell even for that? Irreplaceable for them.

Kane will end up at Real Madrid. United can't even get the top British talent anymore.

 

[Sky1981]

Cbj, mcnair, lingard, wilson, varela

 

[Scarecrow]

We don't need a left back, nor a right one at this point.

 

[reddevilz007]

There's a lot of positions to fill in the Academy
and someone to replace Woodward for transfer negotiations. The guy should stick in finding sponsors for us, not players

 

[Ish]

Realistic:

CB: Laporte b/o or Stones for crazy money

CM: Gundogan €40m?

Forward/winger: Griezzman b/o - he's a united fan iirc but also loyal to Atletico, who faced with a transfer ban....not sure, but it's doable or Sane (again decent amount of money will need to be offered)

Depth: Mahrez who'd add some quality as well

Free: Ibrahimovich could be a stop gap in the absence of real quality CF's in the market otherwise throw a shit load at Everton for Lukaku

Wild cards: surely Madrid will revamp their squad - so one of Kroos/Isco/James/Bale/Benzema might be surplus to requirements - not sure who Zidane likes/dislikes tbh. Maybe @Vato @carvajal could add their opinions

And then, not sure how realistic but throw money at Reus or Aubamayeng or Dybala. Doubt anyone will be available

Laporte, Griezzman, Lukaku, Gundogan & Mahrez seem achievable. The rest have their doubts for various reasons

 

[Ish]

Kane is coming. Platelets unrealistic if they get CL and we don't. I don't think they would sell to us for £120m even. The guy is a superstar. Why sell even for that? Irreplaceable for them.

Kane will end up at Real Madrid. United can't even get the top British talent anymore.

No offense KM but over the 8 years or so I've lurked and posted on here, I don't recall you saying much, if anything positive about United. I might be very wrong obviously, but you underestimate and degrade us quite often.

 

[sun_tzu]

If we get cl and we offer crazy wages we can get whoever real, barca, bayern, psg and city don't want... Unless they fancy London then they will probably go to Arsenal or chelsea.

Though I suspect we will be linked with (and miss out on) Ronaldo Bale Neymar messi Lewendowski Muller etc

 

[Vato]

Wild cards: surely Madrid will revamp their squad - so one of Kroos/Isco/James/Bale/Benzema might be surplus to requirements - not sure who Zidane likes/dislikes tbh. Maybe @Vato @carvajal could add their opinions

I could see Kroos or maybe even James leaving in the near future. Don't think any of the others will leave soon.

 

[The Stain]

Free: Abramovich could be a stop gap in the absence of real quality CF's in the market

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Realistic:

CB: Laporte b/o or Stones for crazy money

CM: Gundogan €40m?

Forward/winger: Griezzman b/o - he's a united fan iirc but also loyal to Atletico, who faced with a transfer ban....not sure, but it's doable or Sane (again decent amount of money will need to be offered)

Depth: Mahrez who'd add some quality as well

Free: Abramovich could be a stop gap in the absence of real quality CF's in the market otherwise throw a shit load at Everton for Lukaku

Wild cards: surely Madrid will revamp their squad - so one of Kroos/Isco/James/Bale/Benzema might be surplus to requirements - not sure who Zidane likes/dislikes tbh. Maybe @Vato @carvajal could add their opinions

And then, not sure how realistic but throw money at Reus or Aubamayeng or Dybala. Doubt anyone will be available

Laporte, Griezzman, Lukaku, Gundogan & Mahrez seem achievable. The rest have their doubts for various reasons

As long as he brings his money with him.

 

[Ish]

As long as he brings his money with him.

FFS apologies lads and lasses

 

[Ish]

I could see Kroos or maybe even James leaving in the near future. Don't think any of the others will leave soon.

Thanks mate, appreciate the response. Zidane not a big fans of them 2? I know James struggled under Benitez, seemingly. And Kroos just doesn't seem suited to a fast paced counter attacking style.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

FFS apologies lads and lasses

Nevermind, we know who you meant.

 

[soapythecat]

I think who ever we buy with quality is going to cost big. I think we will get two very good players and a couple of squad players.
A CM and a winger will be the big purchases I think.
I'd love Marhez and Verrati but I think the latter is way out of our reach.

 

[the hea]

LB: We already have Shaw, Rojo, Blind, BoJack and Darmian who can play at left back so I don't see any need for reinforcements for this position.

CB: Laporte or Stones are the obvious choice here but will cost at least 40m.

CM: Gundogan will have 1 year left on his contract this summer so if we can convince him to come he wouldn't cost to much maybe 20-25m.

RW: Embolo would be my first choice here and for the right price we should be able to get him from Basel maybe 30-35m.

CF: This is a tough one, Kane would be my first choice but I don't think he is obtainable this summer especially if Spurs make the CL. Lukaku would be another option but he won,t be cheap maybe 40-50m.

 

[Ish]

Nevermind, we know who you meant.

Hehehe, tis what happens when I try & multi task

 

[Gentleman Jim]

On my shortlist would be

Maybe obtainable PL Players
Forster/Butland if DDG goes
Stones
Koscielny
Barkeley
Kane
Hazard
that's pretty much it. The rest are unobtainable or not good enough for you.

Overseas
Alaba
Laporte
Hummels
Batshuayi
and raid Atletico for as many of the following as you can get;

Godin, Giminez, Carrasco, Koke, Griezmann and Correa.

There will also be others like Martial stuck at clubs who are in a rut just waiting for a top club to rescue them.

 

[BennyBlanco]

We'll need a replacement goalkeeper as well come the summer.

 

[Everest Red]

Anyone think we would have done better this year with Rafael, Nani/Welbeck and Evans still with us? Esp since Evans frees up Blind?

 

[Scarecrow]

No offense KM but over the 8 years or so I've lurked and posted on here, I don't recall you saying much, if anything positive about United. I might be very wrong obviously, but you underestimate and degrade us quite often.

You're not wrong. He is. On a regular basis.

 

[Fer]

I think 3 or 4 players would be enough, but if we sign 5 players I would fill these positions:

CB: Laporte/Stones
CM: Gundogan/Pjanic
RW: Sane/Mahrez
AM: Griezmann/Dybala
ST: Lukaku/Kane

De Gea
Darmian - Smalling - Laporte - Shaw
Gundogan - Schneiderlin
Sane --- Griezmann --- Martial
Lukaku​

 

[Ish]

You're not wrong. He is. On a regular basis.

Aye man, I don't understand it.

 

[Lennon]

Dragovic, Laporte, David Alaba, Veratti, Lukaku, Kane and a RW (Bale would be great but unrealistic imo!) Too bad Memphis is right footed!

 

[Revan]

Title pretty much says it all, we realistically need 5 players to fill certain positions in the team and to balance it out but who do you think they should be and think are realistic.

I think we need a right back, a centre back, a left back, a midfield dynamo and a goal scoring right winger so I'd like to see John Stones, Seamus Coleman, Ricardo Rodriguez, Dele Alli and Theo Walcott come in and I think they're all realistic whilst would all improve us.

Theo Walcott isn't that good, so I hope not.

Coleman is good, but he'll be 28 at the beginning of next season and would cost a bomb. Darmian is a very good player who hasn't shown his best for us yet. But providing that our team improves and we'll play him on the right side (not on the left side), he's as good, if not better than Coleman.

Ricardo Rodriguez definitely not. Shaw is too good to sit on the bench and can become a top player, so no need for an upgrade there.

Stones, hopefully yes. He has all the tools to become a very top defender. Alternately, we can go for Laporte who IMO is a better player (at the moment), and would cost around 10m pounds cheaper.

Alli yes, but I don't think it can happen.

My dream signings would be Griezmann (to replace Rooney), Gundogan for the midfield and one of Stones/Laporte for the defense. Add there a right winger (Mahrez perhaps), and we would be as good as any team in the league.

 

[Revan]

Anyone think we would have done better this year with Rafael, Nani/Welbeck and Evans still with us? Esp since Evans frees up Blind?

Blind is better than Evans, so our shaky defense would have been worse with him there.

Welbeck and Rafael would have been injured anyway, but providing that they would have been fit, they would have been good squad players. In fact, an in form Rafael would have been a better option than Darmian who is still adapting, while Welbeck would have given decent competition to Mata, and would have been an upgrade on Lingard.

 

[Revan]

I think 3 or 4 players would be enough, but if we sign 5 players I would fill these positions:

CB: Laporte/Stones
CM: Gundogan/Pjanic
RW: Sane/Mahrez
AM: Griezmann/Dybala
ST: Lukaku/Kane

De Gea
Darmian - Smalling - Laporte - Shaw
Gundogan - Schneiderlin
Sane --- Griezmann --- Martial
Lukaku​

That would cost around:

Laporte: 35-40m
Gundogan: 30m providing that there was no competition; 50m or so if City/Chelsea would go for him too
Sane: 40m or so especially with City interested on him
Griezmann: 65m release clause, but there are rumors that it has/will jump on 75m
Lukaku: 50-60m knownig Everton

In total it would be 220m-265m pounds (290m-350m euros).

Not going to happen. Not even City/PSG does that.

 

[Gerald G]

I'd buy these dudes.....I don't think we need a LB with Shaw, CBJ, Rojo, Blind there - it's probably the stongest part of our team.

I'd certainly be after a CB though and maybe a playmaker midfielder - does Tielemans fit that description

Yeah he does but he's pretty young.

I don't think LB is our strongest position. We have players that can cover that position but I think we could do with a specialist LB backup. My problem with multi-functional players, is that when one gets injured then that's taking two or more positions out the team.

I don't think it's of high importance if CBJ continues to develop though. So I want to see how he fares for the remainder of the season.
But definitely at least one right winger & one striker.

 

[Globule]

Dragovic, Laporte, David Alaba, Veratti, Lukaku, Kane and a RW (Bale would be great but unrealistic imo!) Too bad Memphis is right footed!

If Alaba and Bayern are both open to a move, this has City written all over it now.

For me, my main positions would be CB, CM, RW and ST. Of the players to fill those positions, I have no earthly idea who would be deemed realistic. Stones and Lukaku would be good buys, but how much money would it take to prise them from Everton?

 

[bosnian_red]

If Alaba and Bayern are both open to a move, this has City written all over it now.

For me, my main positions would be CB, CM, RW and ST. Of the players to fill those positions, I have no earthly idea who would be deemed realistic. Stones and Lukaku would be good buys, but how much money would it take to prise them from Everton?

50m each most likely. But I agree. We could maybe need a back up right back, but Valencia would normally be perfectly fine for that. Also for realistic options, who knows, it depends on if we get CL next year and who the next manager is. There are many options though, we just need to spend big and get the players we can. Griezmann would be ideal as he can play up front, out wide or behind the striker. That way we can rotate him around while we rotate Memphis and Martial, sometimes one playing up top, sometimes one on the wing, that type of thing. If not him, then we can try and spend big on James from Madrid to play on the right for us. We definitely need to improve in those positions though, and getting a top class player would be a huge boost to the whole team.

 

[Globule]

50m each most likely. But I agree. We could maybe need a back up right back, but Valencia would normally be perfectly fine for that.

I deliberately avoided mentioning RB. Darmian hasn't set the world alight, but it's his first season and he's shown enough for us to give him the benefit of the doubt. And Valencia is actually a good option at RB too. Throw in Varela, McNair and Jones who can all play there and I think we're okay. It might not be as good as the options we have at LB, but at this point I think we have far bigger issues to focus on elsewhere.

I agree with the rest of your post. Griezmann does seem like an ideal option. I'd maybe try and get Mahrez/Mane in addition to him just to give us more options and more flexibility. Unlike the Everton players, I think we could get one of these two for relatively cheap.

 

[Fer]

That would cost around:

Laporte: 35-40m
Gundogan: 30m providing that there was no competition; 50m or so if City/Chelsea would go for him too
Sane: 40m or so especially with City interested on him
Griezmann: 65m release clause, but there are rumors that it has/will jump on 75m
Lukaku: 50-60m knownig Everton

In total it would be 220m-265m pounds (290m-350m euros).

Not going to happen. Not even City/PSG does that.

If you read the post again, I mentioned that 3 or 4 players would be enough. So Laporte, Gundogan and Griezmann is more than enough for me. Mainly because I think Rooney and Mata are going to stay.

Also, I think it's important to give opportunities to our young players. So a defender, midfielder and an attacking mid (#10/RW) is just what we need.

 

[carvajal]

Wild cards: surely Madrid will revamp their squad - so one of Kroos/Isco/James/Bale/Benzema might be surplus to requirements - not sure who Zidane likes/dislikes tbh. Maybe @Vato @carvajal could add their opinions

It is early to say. If Zidane continues next year perhaps he will want to balance the squad, selling attacking midfielders to buy pure midfielders although in the weeks leading the team Casemiro has disappeared while Kroos has regained prominence and James, who had some bad weeks is again in the team.
Some possible exits, I would say: Navas,Cristiano,Casemiro and Danilo

 

[AkaAkuma]

It is early to say. If Zidane continues next year perhaps he will want to balance the squad, selling attacking midfielders to buy pure midfielders although in the weeks leading the team Casemiro has disappeared while Kroos has regained prominence and James, who had some bad weeks is again in the team.
Some possible exits, I would say: Navas,Cristiano,Casemiro and Danilo

Your not anticipating the ban? It seems likely to me.

 

[carvajal]

Your not anticipating the ban? It seems likely to me.

In theory they can sign if the suspension reaches summer
From marca:
" FIFA's Appeal Committee has agreed to Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid's request for a stay of execution on the transfer bans they were handed on 14th January for alleged irregularities in their dealings with underage players.

The two Madrid clubs were set to be unable to sign or sell players in the next two transfer windows, i.e. the coming summer and January 2017. However, the provisional suspension of the punishment means that both 'Los Blancos' and the 'Rojiblancos' may be able to conduct business in the summer - if no final ruling is reached on their respective appeals beforehand - and the affected youngsters currently at the clubs will be able to keep playing in the meantime.

"Real Madrid announce that the FIFA Appeal Committee has decided to provisionally suspend the sanction imposed on the club", reads a succinct statement published on the website of the Bernabéu-based outfit.

Atlético had broken the news on Twitter a few minutes earlier, tweeting, "FIFA's Appeal Committee grants us the probationary suspension of the sanction pending the outcome of the appeal".

It is worth remembering that Barça also had their transfer ban suspended, which enabled them to embark on a spending spree in the summer of 2014. The punishment was eventually upheld on 20th August that year and so was carried over to both transfer windows in 2015."

 

[paulscholes18]

CB Laporte
CM Gundogan
RW Griezmann

DDG
Darmian Smalling Laporte Shaw
Morgan
Herrera Gundogan
Griezmann Memphis Martial

 

[Stobzilla]

Marquinhos
Laporte
Gundogan
Griezmann

All we would need right there. Move out Romero, Valencia and Fellaini, have Carrick for one more year. get AP a loan, Januzaj, Wilson, CBJ to integrate fully as first team squad and keep players like TFM, Tuanzebe, Rashford, Gribbin and Goss rotating in every so often.

De Gea
Johnstone
Joel Pereira

Darmian
Smalling
Jones
Laporte
Marquinhos
Rojo
McNair
Shaw
CBJ
Young

Carrick
Schweinsteiger
Mata
Herrera
Gundogan
Schneiderlin

Depay
Januzaj
Martial
Greizmann
Wilson
Rooney

That squad of players should get you close, regardless of who is manager.

 

[AkaAkuma]

In theory they can sign if the suspension reaches summer
From marca:
" FIFA's Appeal Committee has agreed to Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid's request for a stay of execution on the transfer bans they were handed on 14th January for alleged irregularities in their dealings with underage players.

The two Madrid clubs were set to be unable to sign or sell players in the next two transfer windows, i.e. the coming summer and January 2017. However, the provisional suspension of the punishment means that both 'Los Blancos' and the 'Rojiblancos' may be able to conduct business in the summer - if no final ruling is reached on their respective appeals beforehand - and the affected youngsters currently at the clubs will be able to keep playing in the meantime.

"Real Madrid announce that the FIFA Appeal Committee has decided to provisionally suspend the sanction imposed on the club", reads a succinct statement published on the website of the Bernabéu-based outfit.

Atlético had broken the news on Twitter a few minutes earlier, tweeting, "FIFA's Appeal Committee grants us the probationary suspension of the sanction pending the outcome of the appeal".

It is worth remembering that Barça also had their transfer ban suspended, which enabled them to embark on a spending spree in the summer of 2014. The punishment was eventually upheld on 20th August that year and so was carried over to both transfer windows in 2015."

Most of what I have read on the matter says that its been done early this time to avoid the chance of an appeal taking the process beyond the next transfer window.

Is there a more positive view in Spain?

 

[carvajal]

Most of what I have read on the matter says that its been done early this time to avoid the chance of an appeal taking the process beyond the next transfer window.

Is there a more positive view in Spain?

For what I read they are quite sure that if they are sanctioned the conditions will be exactly the same as those of Barcelona , 2 markets without signing but allowing the first summer.

 

[Silverman]

RB - Coleman
CB - Laporte/Stones
CM - Gundogan
RW - Griezmann

We don't need a left back. Shaw and Borthwick-Jackson give us plenty of cover.