5 positions and the realistic 5 players to fill them ?

davidmichael

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Title pretty much says it all, we realistically need 5 players to fill certain positions in the team and to balance it out but who do you think they should be and think are realistic.

I think we need a right back, a centre back, a left back, a midfield dynamo and a goal scoring right winger so I'd like to see John Stones, Seamus Coleman, Ricardo Rodriguez, Dele Alli and Theo Walcott come in and I think they're all realistic whilst would all improve us.
 
Laporte - buy out clause
Griezman - buy out clause
Gundogen - last year of contract
 
Hahaha and what makes you think we can nick those players from our premier league rivals?
 
davidmichael said:
Title pretty much says it all, we realistically need 5 players to fill certain positions in the team and to balance it out but who do you think they should be and think are realistic.

I think we need a right back, a centre back, a left back, a midfield dynamo and a goal scoring right winger so I'd like to see John Stones, Seamus Coleman, Ricardo Rodriguez, Dele Alli and Theo Walcott come in and I think they're all realistic whilst would all improve us.
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I really doubt Coleman and Rodriguez will come here while we potentially have 2 good fullbacks already. And Walcott? Really ?
 
Walcott is average and would cost far too much compared to his ability. Shaw is coming back so spending 30m or so on Rodriguez is terrible money management.

Pogba/Gundogan and a a winger with pace would be lovely.
 
Delle Alli isn't realistic at all, I think a lot of Arsenal fans would drive Walcott here themselves if we offered actual money for him and do we really need a left back? I really don't understand John Stones to be honest, he's not as good on the ball or defensively as Daley Blind, although I guess you could say potential? He was shocking against us when we played them, we could've scored about 7.

CB - Hummels? I've not seen him play this season, he could be worse than Stones ;)
CM - I'd like Marchisio. He's better than Pogba when I see Juventus play
RW - People are saying Griezmann but hasn't he made a successful transition to ST? Deulofeu would be nice.
 
Kostur said:
Pretty much this, I'm afraid that Pep will take Gundogan with him to fecking City though.
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I have a feeling Pep will be buying a whole new midfield for city. Gundogen would probably be quite high up his wish list
 
bubbles_ said:
Delle Alli isn't realistic at all, I think a lot of Arsenal fans would drive Walcott here themselves if we offered actual money for him and do we really need a left back? I really don't understand John Stones to be honest, he's not as good on the ball or defensively as Daley Blind, although I guess you could say potential? He was shocking against us when we played them, we could've scored about 7.

CB - Hummels? I've not seen him play this season, he could be worse than Stones ;)
CM - I'd like Marchisio. He's better than Pogba when I see Juventus play
RW - People are saying Griezmann but hasn't he made a successful transition to ST? Deulofeu would be nice.
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Griezmann has played mostly as a second striker when I have seen him this season, still think he could do a job as a wide right forward. The thing is I just cant think of a WC attacker in his prime who is as attainable as he is.

Deulofeu has such a complicated loan agreement between Barcelona and Everton signing him might be a nightmare.

There are always still the Caf favourites: Mane and Mahrez
 
Walcott is trash. We don't need a LB. We just signed Darmian at RB, let's give him real time to properly prove himself.
 
We need a CB, RW, ST, CM + LB/RB. I think our targets will actually depend on whether we qualify for the Champions League. We still might be able to attract top players but it will be much harder and despite what some say we will still be less appealing.

But I'm thinking:

CB - Stones/Laporte/Mustafi/Hummels

RW - Griezmann/Mahrez/Lucas Moura/Mane

ST - Kane/Lukaku/Alcacer/Icardi/Higuain

CM - Pogba/Gundogan/Kroos/Rabiot/Tielemans

LB - Gaya/Robertson/Cresswell

A couple of these are probably slightly unrealistic, but I think it could still be possible.
 
bubbles_ said:
CM - I'd like Marchisio. He's better than Pogba when I see Juventus play
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I think buying a 30 year old combative midfielder who has spent his entire career in Italy is about as guaranteed to be an utter disaster as any transfer in history.
 
Was thinking about this the other day;

RB: Rafael
RM: Nani
ST: van Persie/Hernandez
Creative Attacker (SS/AM): Di Maria.
CB: Ok, Evans sucks.

Not a whinging post - but all positions we are lacking/need backup for.

But to be serious:

Backup right back: no idea
RM: Anyone but Walcott. A cheeky bid for Oxlade would be nice. Hell I'd gamble on Mahrez or Shaqiri.
ST: Zlatan. (if rooney continues his form, and Martial continues to develop).
SS/AM: Griezmann/Aubamayeung
CB: Stones/Laporte.

Probably need a CM too, which is ridiculous after signing 4 in 3 seasons (5 if you count Blind). Just buy Pogba.
 
Gerald G said:
We need a CB, RW, ST, CM + LB/RB. I think our targets will actually depend on whether we qualify for the Champions League. We still might be able to attract top players but it will be much harder and despite what some say we will still be less appealing.

But for the CB positions I'm thinking Stones/Laporte/Mustafi/Hummels

RW - Griezmann/Mahrez/Mane/Lucas Moura - two of these three

ST - Kane/Lukaku/Alcacer/Icardi/Higuain - Kane preferably

CM - Pogba/Gundogan/Kroos/Rabiot/Tielemans

LB - Gaya/Robertson/Cresswell
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I'd buy these dudes.....I don't think we need a LB with Shaw, CBJ, Rojo, Blind there - it's probably the stongest part of our team.

I'd certainly be after a CB though and maybe a playmaker midfielder - does Tielemans fit that description
 
Not that they are easy to get at all, but they aren't the "Neymar, messi, bale" level of implausible; Id love to have a crack at 1 of Dortmund's attackers. Reus or Abameyang. and im talking big money like di maria money to get one of them would be a lot for BvB to think about.

Then there's Greizmann at Atletico with a roughly 40m pound release clause I think?

John stones at everton I think would be a goner for 35m + decent addons. enough to guarantee our investment and enough for everton to retool. as much as you try and swing it, everton could do with cash more than a fancy ball playing centre back, they would do better getting an actual defender like a gary cahil for 10m and reinvesting elsewhere.

Mahrez wont be at Leicester next season, regardless of if they win the league. there's a big money move there.

Lastly, this is a proper muppety one, but i think the possibility for something with James Rodriguez could be there should real appeal the ban or get it overturned. he's started like 3 games this year and seemingly unhappy with his playing time. would have been there for 2 seasons, ronaldo is still 2-3 years on contract which means he will start, as will bale as well as Isco being the spanish prefered attacking midfielder ahead of James in the setup under zidane. Ultimately there's a player there who is too good to be a squad player, at an age where he needs to be a focal point of a team. Real paid roughly 45-50m pounds Iirc? so for us to offer them profit on their transfer, freeing up a squad space for their next big galactico could be a inviting proposition. I dont see where else they are going to make the space to bring in a Hazard/pogba etc real classic. We've also followed him since porto and reported made moves before. Not likely at all, but hey ho, no big transfers are.
 
Dybala £60m?
Gundogan £35m
Laporte or Stones £40m
 
First team
CB - Laporte/Stones
CM - Gundogan/Neves//Tielemans
RW - Mahrez/Embolo/Sane
AM - Griezman/Dybala
 
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We should have bought Alderweireld last season, would have been a typical United signing and would be great alongside Smalling.

Anyways,

CM: Gundogan
RW: Griezmann/Mahrez
ST: Batshuayi/Kane/Embolo
CB: Haven't seen much of Laporte and Stones is hit and miss. We definitely need another centre-back though.

Think these four positions will do nicely.
RB - Darmian, Valencia, Young
LB - Shaw, CBJ, Blind, Rojo

is plenty of cover for the full-back position, we just have been incredibly unlucky with injuries.
 
All depends on who our boss is really. I'm going to assume until told otherwise that we're keeping Van Gaal on. If not, Blind in defence pretty much becomes a no no, and we'll sign another centre back. But i'm happy with him there going forward, or at least it isn't a pressing concern. Some cover for him and Smalling might be though.

-------------De Gea--------------
Darmian-Smalling--Blind---Shaw
-------------Carrick----------------
------Morgan-----Herrera---------
--Memphis----------------Martial-
-------------Lukaku----------------

In addition to Lukaku i'd sign:

A centre back - a young centre back, to cover for Smalling and Blind
A defensive mid - phase Carrick out, and have him rotate with a younger player
a creative mid - A great long passer, who can get the ball to our attackers sharpish, and also chip in with 5-10 goals.
a winger - Pacey, tricky, someone to run at defenders and create gaps.
 
I think we should stop fecking about with our squad except for much needed additions. If a worldie comes available, fair enough. But otherwise I would like to see Pereira given a proper chance before we sign another midfielder. Five new first team players is just going to mess us up even more.

Think we need someone to rotate with Rooney, although he'll never get dropped so anyone who's willing to bench warm for him should do (makes it all the more baffling that we got rid of Chicha), and fullback cover and a top right winger for the first team. I think we at least need to prioritize making one of those signings a top level player, I'm not sure who though.
 
Assuming (though im not confident) we get top 4, i think alot depends on our Manager come the summer.

LvG or Giggs and i dont think we attract big names. Mourinho or similar and maybe we do.

As for the transfers, United need to carry on the Martial form and stop pissing about trying to pay fair prices. We're in the shit, everyone knows this, and also knows we have a tonne of cash we could spend.

Ideal summer for me at the moment,

Lukaku, Stones, Pogba and Neymar, Mahrez. Just pay whatever it takes. Worry about the debt when we're not a laughing stock of the league.
 
davidmichael said:
Title pretty much says it all, we realistically need 5 players to fill certain positions in the team and to balance it out but who do you think they should be and think are realistic.

I think we need a right back, a centre back, a left back, a midfield dynamo and a goal scoring right winger so I'd like to see John Stones, Seamus Coleman, Ricardo Rodriguez, Dele Alli and Theo Walcott come in and I think they're all realistic whilst would all improve us.
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Aleksandar Dragovic, Gundogan/Ruben Neves/Willy Carvalho, Renato Sanches, Riyad Mahrez, Griezmann or Lukaku
 
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CB - ?
RW - Sane
SS - Griezmann
CM -Gundogan
ST - ? (I'd go for Kane but I don't think he'd move except for an absurd fee)
 
Laporte- reasonable b/o clause
Jose Gaya- not sure if he would want to leave
Gundogan- very doable
Dybala- do whatever it takes 60m/70m euros whatever he takes. just keep bidding till Juve says yes.
Lukaku- pretty sure if we come in for him, he will want to leave.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Aleksandar Dragovic, Gundogan/Ruben Neves/Willy Carvalho, Renato Sanches, Riyad Mahrez, Griezmann or Lukaku
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Is this Dragovic guy all he is cracked up to be? He is constantly linked with big teams but none of them ever seem to of gone ahead and bought him, whichleaves a question mark to me. I ask as I admittedly have not seen much of him, it's hard enough watching United and La Liga this season never mind anything else.
 
Red_Beans said:
Laporte - buy out clause
Griezman - buy out clause
Gundogen - last year of contract
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its so odd to me that all of us can come up with these 3 same names that would instantly make the side contend for titles except for LVG and Woodward.
 
For Left Back I'd rather see if Luke Shaw can make a full recovery first. Borthwick-Jackson is doing fine there for now and with Rojo & Blind to potentially cover when we've got more bodies fit at the back, we're well off in that position. Right Back is debatable, but again Darmian should probably be given more time and we have a few players who can play there (Valencia, Young, Varela, McNair, Jones). Centre Back is one I agree with, mainly due to injuries and I think John Stones is realistic (though John Terry leaving Chelsea in the Summer probably means they'll be preparing a bid well in excess of £40million to get him and keep their home grown player requirement for the future).

In the midfield, finding a young player to replace Michael Carrick is probably the most important thing to do (although I expect him to play for us for one more year after this season). I'd love to pick Dele Alli from Spurs, but if they finish in the top four I don't see why he'd leave just yet - he'd probably still stay even if they didn't.
 
Marhrez or Dybala...and I don't think either are realistic.

Nor do I think we realistically will/or need to sign 5 players in the summer.
 
An ideal window next summer would be, IMO, to sign: right winger, striker, center back, deeper playmaking midfielder, right back (either back up or start)

First choice: Kane, Griezmann, Stones, Gundogan, Coleman

Back ups: 2 of Lukaku/James/Sane/Mahrez/Mane, Rugani/Romagnoli/Laporte, Pjanic/Neves/Renato, back up right back

This way we can use Shaw and Blind as left backs, Smalling, Stones/anyone, Jones, Rojo as center backs, and Darmian and Coleman or whoever as right backs. Schneiderlin, Gundogan, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, Carrick in midfield. Martial, Kane, Griezmann, Mata as the starting front 4, Rooney, Memphis, Pereira, Januzaj as back up.
 
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5 signings and 2 are LB and RB? Rooney scores a few goals and suddenly we don't need a striker?....*sigh*
 
Left back and doesn't even mention a striker - that is idiocy to the extreme. We have probably the two best young full backs in the league in Shaw and CBJ. Definitely do not need to add to this.. oh yeah we also have Blind/Rojo as backup for that position (WC semi and WC Finalists). We're stacked as feck in that position, even Darmian and A. Young can play there. We have 6 players for that one slot all who can play at a very high standard.

Striker.. Rooney might be playing well but he is still nowhere near the likes of Aguero and that is the type of striker we need if we're going to keep Martial out wide. Otherwise move Martial to CF and bring in two top wingers either side of him.

Rooney to be sold or relegated to the bench next year - simple as.
 
We should not be thinking that we can get cheap deals or that we'll have much chance of signing elite players this summer.

With (I know it's becoming tiresome already) Pep at City they'll be looking to establish themselves as an elite club and will be splashing the cash with no restrictions. The manager alone will guarantee that top players will take them very seriously and they'll be miles above us in the pecking order.

With the way we've been lately and our current standing it'll be hard to convince top players with other options and I don't see it being likely that even home grown top players would be too likely (Kane, Stones etc) so I would probably have a few players in mind along with back-ups and be prepared to pay elite player money for players who are simply very good. Sure, it'll be expensive, but if we do it right we can build ourselves back up, even with LVG/Giggs at the helm.

I'd say we need 3 players personally, in central defence, right wing and a striker.

I'd go for:

Lukaku or Lacazette (backup)
Griezmann or Mahrez (backup)
Laporte or Dragovic (backup)
 
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