Do you know Giggs personally? Thought not. Do you think that being a narcissist (a popular label atm) is any worse than being a lying, cheating, woman beating misogynist? Weird.
21/22 MUFC POTY Ronaldo or De Gea?
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Are you an adult? I can never understand grown men having such strong feelings of hatred towards other grown men they don’t know. It’s weird. Of course criticism for performance but trying to conduct a personality analysis from games of football….just weird. I just stick to performances when judging players.
1. Ronaldo
2. De Gea
3. Elanga
Ronaldo dragging us through the CL group stage and also keeping us in the race for top 4.
2. De Gea
3. Elanga
Ronaldo dragging us through the CL group stage and also keeping us in the race for top 4.
What's weird is you bringing Giggs into the conversation when this thread has got feck all to do with him. If he was in the running for POTY then I'd probably mention something about his character as well. He's not. I don't.
So because you don't understand it you have to ask me if I'm an adult? Oookayyy
Apologies for having a personal opinion. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.
Original way to carry on a discussion. Does that mean you win??
It is either Ronaldo or De Gea, there being no wrong answer between the two of them.
The more interesting question is who would be third? For me it would have to be Fred, despite putting in some horrifying performances earlier in the season and Fred being a player that would likely not even make the bench for any of our other top dix rivals and possibly not even West Ham.
Utter calamity, this season has been. Thank you, Woody and Ole.
The more interesting question is who would be third? For me it would have to be Fred, despite putting in some horrifying performances earlier in the season and Fred being a player that would likely not even make the bench for any of our other top dix rivals and possibly not even West Ham.
Utter calamity, this season has been. Thank you, Woody and Ole.
No, it means I found your comment funny and yet boring. There is little point in debating when your mind is clearly clouded and made up. After all, it's not for me to tell you how you judge people you know very little about.
Definitely not Ronaldo. He's been useless for half the games this season.
I'd have Fred above him. De Gea #1, fred 2, Ronaldo 3.
I'd have Fred above him. De Gea #1, fred 2, Ronaldo 3.
Definitely Ronaldo. I don't think this team can win another match this season, but there's a decent chance Ronaldo will win a game or two on his own. Thats basically been the case since January 30th, barring our game against a self-destructing Bielsa side.
I don't think anybody will be thrilled to win the award this season, mind you.
I don't think anybody will be thrilled to win the award this season, mind you.
Matic for 3rd
Bingo. Ronaldo has grabbed a boatload in a few games and has many many really poor ones. DDG has been excellent all season. Not sure how this is even close other than bias.
De Gea.
Tom Heaton for me.
Edit: Also, at the "Ronaldo has scored 2 hat tricks so he's only scored in 10 games this season" bile people are spouting....how many of those multiple goals in games won us points ye clowns?
Edit: Also,
at the "Ronaldo has scored 2 hat tricks so he's only scored in 10 games this season" bile people are spouting....how many of those multiple goals in games won us points ye clowns? I’d probably give it to De Gea, but only just. He was thought by many to be on his way out last summer, after 3 years of bad form, sharing the number 1 jersey with Henderson and then missing the crucial kick in the Europa League final shootout. But he not only won his jersey back as undisputed No.1 but also returned to somewhere near his best form.
Ronaldo has scored 20+ goals in a shit team but De Gea turned his united career around by working hard when it would have been easier to sack it off. He should get the award as an example to the rest of the squad.
Ronaldo has scored 20+ goals in a shit team but De Gea turned his united career around by working hard when it would have been easier to sack it off. He should get the award as an example to the rest of the squad.
It would be better if we just cancelled the award this season.
Fair enough answer and to an extent you're right but have you ever experienced a person that you've never met and you find them as obnoxious as they come? Reality star, soap star, singer, Trump, Piers Morgan?
Tom Heaton for me.
Edit: Also,
Virtually all of his goals won us points
Opener and second Vs Newcastle on his second debut - 3 PTS
Goal against West ham in a 2-1 win - 3 PTS
Opener away to spurs -3 PTS
Double against arsenal -3 PTS
Opener against Brighton - 3 PTS
Hat trick against Norwich - 3 pts
Hat trick against spurs 3 PTS
Only goal away to Norwich - 3 pts
Now obviously for these purposes I've done what is traditionally done and counted the opener in a game where the opponents don't score as the winning goal even if the eventual margin of victory is 2 or 3 but basically every goal he's scored in the league has been an opener, equaliser or winner. No stat padding, no last goal in a 5 goal rout (although that might be a result of us rarely winning by more than a goal tbh) but he's won a lot of points even if his goals have been concentrated in fewer games, which is probably better than scoring in 20 different games but 15 of them being the final goal in a 3-0 win, in terms of what it contributes
Absolutely but if I told you about people I found annoying, you would see they are very much analogous.
De Gea easily.
Ronaldo has been good in some games but let's be honest, he's missed a lot of chances too.
Ronaldo has been good in some games but let's be honest, he's missed a lot of chances too.
I think that's best for all concerned.
This
And this.
No brainer actually.
De Gea has been good but until I see his stats as Allison ones it's a no go.
De Gea for sure. Has had a fantastic season
The posts flogging Ronaldo are unpersuasive. He's been our only consistent goal scoring threat and more than a few of his goals have been match winners. I might still go with De Gea, but surely either Dave or Ronnie. No one else comes even close.
anything but DDG would be an injustice.
You spelt Fred wrong.
Surprised to see Ronaldo even in this discussion as he’s been quite average. It’s more than likely DeGea with Fred a possible shout. If Ronaldo over the next few games won us all those games and got us secure in the top 4 then maybe his name would be worth mentioning for POTY.
Fred by a mile but obviously Ronaldo himself and his diehard fans would be unbearable here so let's give it to him.
Exactly !! Fecking ludicrous the way people go on
It’s got to be Fred for me
De Gea gets too much credit for just doing his job of making saves in our worst sides. Just like relegated team's keepers regularly get their player of the year because they get so much practice.
Fred is one of the very few this season to come out with any credit.
Fred is one of the very few this season to come out with any credit.
So how comes out for one out of 10 that he should come for. Would you like me to bake him a cake?
De Gea's had a season where he's slipped behind Raya and Sánchez, the Brentford and Brighton keepers respectively, for the Spanish national team and may well not go the World Cup now, yet a majority of Manchester United fans possibly think he has been their player of the season. That says a lot, both about the standards of the club and the inability of many fans to not recognise the painful limitations of a long serving player.
Ronaldo got us through the CL group and has really won us points on his own, despite having some poor games. I actually think Fred should be POTY though, he’s been so much better since Ragnick let him play in a more similar role to where does for Brasil.
DDG hasn’t even been that amazing - go look at his advanced stats, we’ve just been awful and that’s combined with him not being as terrible as he was the last couple of seasons. He’s a good solid keeper but he hasn’t been a great keeper since the World Cup.
Has to be Ronaldo. Not that he had a lot to compete with
It's basically De Gea vs Ronaldo
It's close....really close.
Because De Gea has made so many saves, I have to give it to him.
I really would prefer not to give it to him, because he has won it so many times, but alas he has been very consistent for us....so David De Gea gets my vote.
It's close....really close.
Because De Gea has made so many saves, I have to give it to him.
I really would prefer not to give it to him, because he has won it so many times, but alas he has been very consistent for us....so David De Gea gets my vote.
If it wasn’t for Ronaldo’s goals we’d probably be bottom half right now. The same could also be said of De Gea’s saves though so I wouldn’t mind either of those 2 winning it.
Ronaldo.
Ronaldo for me. Keeps going doesn't let the head drop and has the arrogance and personality needed to lead Manchester United and set standards. Still in the running for the golden boot at 37 in a shit Utd team. Proper football legend who has kept going recently despite personal tragedy.
Having said that DeGea has also had a good season and if he gets it I will not complain.
Has to be Ronaldo... without him the season would've been AWFUL to watch.... he at least provided some joy.