Agreed. Their audience has been gaslit for a decade to where they are conditioned to believe anything that comes from Trump and nothing that comes from outside the MAGA orbit.
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Agreed. Their audience has been gaslit for a decade to where they are conditioned to believe anything that comes from Trump and nothing that comes from outside the MAGA orbit.
Progressives wigging out about this already
Wasn't he in Obama's administration?
Yes, Bill Clinton and Obama.
With good reason, he’s been a disaster for a decade. Perpetual insider who found himself in cushy positions due to access, and fecked it up badly when he had any power.
Ben Wikler is what they need, proven record, turning around Wisconsin from the most heavily gerrymandered state to a levelled playground.
The Kamala campaign was doing the exact same thing targeted to the opposite populations!
e - also Elon's ads about this were first reported on in about mid-Oct.
Tough shit.
Incredibly, Trump is the only person who comes out of this not looking stupid. These people think they got played by the guy who said “I just want your vote, I don’t care about you”.
I think things overlap though; I like gaming for instance and always like to check reviews and there's the whole culture war nonsense surrounding games these days. One review could say 'X game sucks' and it's legitimate criticism, then the algorithm suggests another review which is massively popular that says 'X game sucks' but you might click on it and according to the reviewer it's 'woke trash'. That's hardly hardcore right-wing content but it's a little inroad into the culture war which the algorithm is now convinced you're interested in (and i'm not!)
I agree with your point about building a 21st media infrastructure for sure. But I also think they are poor at messaging.
They fell for the narrative that Harris had something to do with what was Joe Biden’s policy.
Because they don’t play that game. You are never going to get good at anything if you don’t go through practice, trial & error.
I frankly don’t think the right wing echo chamber is sophisticated, they just drown out everything by sheer volume, Classic Goebbels’s ‘a falsehood repeated a thousand times become truth’. In the time it takes Contrapoint to produce a single video essay, 10 right wing looks have churned out thousands of videos, even if each of them only average 50-60k while hers get millions, they saturate the algorithm and introduce that content to more and more people until their feeds are exclusively Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Shapiro, Candace Owens etc with the leftmost content they get being Joe Rogan.
Why do you call it a narrative? She didn't give any indication she would've done anything different, quite the opposite.
Exactly this. It's incredibly easy to fall into a right wing pit on social media like YT. Even channels that aren't political per se so often so have content to rip on woke this or woke that, and whatever else fits more on that side of the spectrum. And then also think about how many adults don't catch on - now add in kids who will probably blindly watch or follow things to watch without giving it much critical thought.
This is idiotic. Trump won because of uneducated white males.
Let’s assume that’s true. It still wouldn’t justify going out of one’s way to vote for Trump given his views about unchecked Israeli power are far more extreme and expansive than anything Biden has promoted. That’s before we even get to all of Trump’s views on every other topic about domestic politics and beyond.
They’re obviously not happy that they didn’t get anything out of not voting for Harris.
100% agree with you.
No, they fell for "I'm speaking", "I'll campaign with Liz Cheney and thank Dick for fecking up the Middle-East" as well as Bill Clinton's "Hamas will force you to bomb the living shit of the wrong brown people in the Holy Land" narrative.
I have no sympathy for the who voted for Trump, especially those who thought that it would provide some kind of positive change for Palestine and the Middle-East.
However, Harris is fully complicit in what's been done in Gaza and the West Bank during the last year, and she never ever tried in any way to put some distance from Biden policies, no matter what the smug posters here think.
There's some of you who are showing real Schadenfreude for the worsening of an ethnic cleansing and a genocide.
Keep being smug and laugh at people who were genuinely outraged by their administration's blatant double standards, whilst the Dems candidate got trounced on every level by a racist felon and occasional rapist, whose screws left the building years ago.
That's the way forward.
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Voting Democrat and then laughing at Muslims for being swindled by Trump is akin to one of Harvey Weinstein's assistants watching one of his victims desperately run into the embrace of Jeffrey Epstein, and saying "SUCKS TO BE YOU, HONEY".
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I see a lot of this schadenfreude on Reddit and Twitter. It is left's version of "owning the libs". They will do this for all non right wing groups that voted Trump and get screwed by him.
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I'm not sure if I'm reading your comment completely wrong, but this kind of rhetoric is almost exclusively coming from the libs, targeted at others.
To me a Trump voter is a Trump voter. Be he/she protestant, catholic, jewish, muslim or klan. I find it odd to distinguish between them, they have far more in common than separates them.
Voting against your interests is not like getting raped by Jeffrey Esptein.
Yeah, that’s a rather absurd comparison.
Surprised anyone even engaged with that laughable attempt at an analogy.
Both options on the table were "against their own interests", which is one hell of a euphemism for the death and rape carnival that the Democratic administration has supported the last year.
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That is an idiotic analogy.
People are simply amazed that anyone could vote for Trump under the delusion that he will be better for Palestinians. The man who moved the US Embasy to Jerusalem and who will give Israel carte blanche to clear fell the Gaza strip. You don't need to like the Biden government's approach to know Trump will be far far worse.
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You're right, it's absurd. Let's try something more grounded. Let's say you have political candidate A running against B, a well-known friend of Jeffrey Epstein. A then decides to send C, another well-known friend of Jeffrey Epstein, to the campaign trail, where he promptly says "Jeffrey was forced to do those crimes."
Hmm. Still too absurd.
I wonder if they used Bidens horrible handling of Israel as an excuse to vote for the far right wing religious ideology that they have more in common with than the Dems support of lgbtq+ rights.
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