2021 American Civil War

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Both of your examples break FCC rules around obscenity. These rules are rooted in US law that says obsecene material isn't protected speech so that's why the broadcaster would be penalized.

Mr. Pillow's opinion piece made on paid airtime doesn't violate those rules and therefore is protected speech under the first amendment. OANs disclaimer is an attempt to avoid legal liability for airing the content.

The bulk of the disclaimer ("hey it's not what we believe and he's paid for this airtime") along with the first amendment would probably offer them a good amount of liability protection but the parts that go on to claim "viewers need to know this because maybe it's true" take away from that for me.

What's even more strange is that they are preaching to the choir so there's no real need to go there. Their lawyers must've thought it was fine and would offer more protection under FCC rules.
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is my example really more obscene than pillow boys shit?

All kidding aside, I get it. My example was a bad one because it does violate obscenity statues. Plus, cable TV operates under different guidelines than broadcast TV. I still don’t get how a statement (let’s forget the last 2 lines) at the beginning of a program, one that might be missed by a majority of the audience, absolves the network of any blame. They KNOW the content of the piece, and they KNOW it is false and defamatory, and they have not only decided to air it, but have taken money to do so.
 
WI_Red said:
So back to my example. If NBC aired an "opinion" piece from someone who wanted to prove that the source of all STD's was Ron Jeremey, (which is far more likely than any of Pillow Biters theories), and showed movie clips as proof, would they be protected? I know it is absurd, but I just don't see how claiming in the beginning that "this is lies" can protect you. What if someone starts watching in minute 2? They miss the disclaimer. I would get it if OAN had to flash "Bullshit" on the screen every 5 seconds, but a quick disclaimer at the beginning seems flimsy at best, even without the last 2 lines.
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They're bending the rules. No rules can be airtight if the intention is to break it.

In normal times that should be sufficient. But trumpites are extraordinary cases.

Which is why we still need a judge with common sense
 
langster said:


These fools are not going away anytime soon. Such a dangerous time for the US at the moment.
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This reminded me of this gem from the old days of the internet. Anyone remember John Titor? :lol: :lol:

The most immediate of Titor's predictions were of an upcoming civil war in the United States having to do with "order and rights". He described it as beginning in 2004,[8] with civil unrest surrounding the presidential election of that year. This civil conflict that he characterized as "having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse"[8] would be "pretty much at everyone's doorstep" and erupt by 2008.

As a result of the war, the United States would split into five regions based on various factors and differing military objectives. This civil war, according to Titor, would end in 2015 with a brief but intense World War III.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
 
Seeing the thread title, and hearing Republicans urging Democrats to move on from the insurrection, I can't help of think of the aftermath of the original Civil War, where in the interest of "national unity", the North gave up on Reconstruction, left the still rebellious South to its own devices, and condemned African Americans to 80 plus years of segregation and domestic terrorism.

There is promise of a Biden led Justice Department being more heavy handed on domestic terrorists but let's wait hope and see.
 
langster said:


These fools are not going away anytime soon. Such a dangerous time for the US at the moment.
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Tell you truth if the South wanted to leave that would be fine with me. Put all the right wing states in one place and all the nut jobs could migrate there. Let them feck each other up while the rest of the country moves forward.
 
njred said:
Tell you truth if the South wanted to leave that would be fine with me. Put all the right wing states in one place and all the nut jobs could migrate there. Let them feck each other up while the rest of the country moves forward.
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Most of the states in the south with large metropolitan areas are slowly drifting to the Dems, so what would be the advantage of succeeding ?
 
Raoul said:
Most of the states in the south with large metropolitan areas are slowly drifting to the Dems, so what would be the advantage of succeeding ?
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Obviously it wouldn’t work with demographics. I was more or less thinking of people with mindset moving to a place away from from the rest of us
 
njred said:
Obviously it wouldn’t work with demographics. I was more or less thinking of people with mindset moving to a place away from from the rest of us
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That's probably as realistic as Republicans wishing California would succeed. The trick is to win on ideas across the country and have that be expressed by voters at the polls.
 
Raoul said:
That's probably as realistic as Republicans wishing California would succeed. The trick is to win on ideas across the country and have that be expressed by voters at the polls.
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My neighbor moved to Penn to get away from NJ because she deemed us too liberal. More need to follow suit.
 
Raoul said:
That's probably as realistic as Republicans wishing California would succeed. The trick is to win on ideas across the country and have that be expressed by voters at the polls.
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Compared to most red states Cali seem pretty successful .
 






Pure insanity. Apparently this shit went on for THREE hours! I can see Mr Pillow needing one of his own products to sit on after the arse kicking he's going to get in court.
 
:lol: love the sounds effetcs. Pckhoo. Pikachuuuuu!

Can't Dominion just sue this loser to high hell as well? Or is he being "sneaky" by not saying Dominion and just repeats "machines".

All this hardcore evidence about corruption and broken algorithms, but thus far not a beep of it shown to the world. Geez.
 
Hectic said:
And the left one, Paul Bearer, has been dead for 8 years.
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golden_blunder said:
Thanks for posting, that was a very interesting read
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Something smells rotten in the upper tiers of these collective agencies. Be it racial reasons, supporting Trump reasons, or secretly wanting to overthrow the government/Dems. The discrepancies between prepping for BLM protests and this Trump rally are night and day.
 
MrMarcello said:
Something smells rotten in the upper tiers of these collective agencies. Be it racial reasons, supporting Trump reasons, or secretly wanting to overthrow the government/Dems. The discrepancies between prepping for BLM protests and this Trump rally are night and day.
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Yeah it certainly seems that way, even the huge delays in getting the national guard called in.

I have total respect for the police that were on duty that day, literally putting their lives on the line with limited gear whilst they were besieged by people wielding and firing all kinds of things. It’s a miracle more weren’t killed.

I hadn’t realised the scope until i read that article, it was like the Alamo
 
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