Banning RD completely derailed Buttigieg's campaign and handed Biden the nomination.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Wow, you got me. It all evens out, yeah?
From a casual observer, surely Sanders eviscerates Biden in a debate? Unless those videos of Biden I've seen recently are heavily edited, the man seems half-cuckoo.
But either way, they both seem like extremely weak candidates. Bernie seems like a good egg but he's a 78 year old guy with recent heart issues and Biden is a 78 year old guy who is becoming increasingly befuddled.
But either way, they both seem like extremely weak candidates. Bernie seems like a good egg but he's a 78 year old guy with recent heart issues and Biden is a 78 year old guy who is becoming increasingly befuddled.
Wonder what odds one of the 3 candidates for future president gets corona 
That guy makes it sound like anyone who dares critique or point out that building coalitions is how you win is parrotting media talking points. As if only he and his ilk are the only free thinkers and the rest of us are incapable. Sounds a lot like the Corbyn cult who ignored data that was right in their faces showing an electoral strategy based on decrying all opposition as establishment led and calling people who have the same goals but a different means of reaching their as right wing is a losing one.
Oh so latino voters don't matter, yeah? what you're doing is still gaslighting and it is pathetic. You're basically saying, that isn't a big issue as much as this other issue. Now you wanna bring up abortion rights which is another key issue on which Biden has a terrible record. You made a dumb fecking statement that Biden did great work with minorities and has an impeccable career. If you're gonna bullshit atleast put some effort into it.
Not just a regular law. Election day is determined by the US constitution itself (Article II). You could argue that in some clear national emergency it could be a public safety issue to hold the election, but that has never happened before and it's totally unclear how it could be done.
Are you actually capable of reading what I've written, or are you some weird alt-right troll doing their best Bernie supporter impression?
Nothing that you accused me of is prevelant in anything I've posted in this thread.
I said Biden has large support amongst black voters based on his years working with those communities and his ties to Obama. This is true.
I also literally just said that Latino voters have experienced the very worst of Trump so not entirely sure how your personal attack holds and relevance or sway.
Also never once said Biden had an impeccable career, but you're clearly incapable of seeing anything beyond a black and white lens.
I hate to break it to you too, if you're looking for impeccable in politics, you're going to be perpetually disappointed.
@Beachryan you are free to believe what you want to. But it is wildly acknowledged that Obama was a terrible president for african americans. This has been discussed to death on this forum. You can do a simple google search for yourself and find out.
Higher than the 60% average of other citizens.Wonder what odds one of the 3 candidates for future president gets corona
A candidate's main job is to shake hands and kiss babies.
Wonder what odds one of the 3 candidates for future president gets corona
Drumpf has a decent chance.
@groovyalbert I legit don't know what your point is. In your initial post, you said he has an impressive career working with minorities. This is a joke, especially since the crime bill destroyed the same very communities and to this day still continues to do so. He was vp to Obama who deported more people than any other president. How does any of this equate to working with minorities?! I have no clue. Now you wanna bring up abortion rights, another issue on which Biden has a shitty record. The guy is a terrible politician with an even terrible record.
What happened to the genius bragging about how he s never liked to shake hands and was basically ahead of everybody?
Oh, his voting on abortion rights is horrid - but my point was that he wouldn't look to roll back the progresses that have been made in recent years in the manner the Trump administration has. No way would he even bother touching that.
Biden's voting record is massively questionable, particularly around the desegregation of buses in the 70s (although he argued that this was because he felt it didn't give black communities the opportunity to grow and flourish... Still, questionable). And you're right, the cages that Trump is legit locking people up in are there in the first place because of the policy from the past administration.
But my point initially was that he has successfully and consistently built real ties - through churches, debates, attending services, etc - within black communities over the decades. Coupled with his ties to Obama (who remains largely popular amongst black voters) and this stands Biden in good stead there. His numbers and endorsements suggest this.
But fundamentally Bernie and Biden were both able to gain support amongst Latino and black voters respectively because those voters are desperate to defeat Trump.
For the record, too, Biden was an early proponent of climate awareness in US politics. It would be nice to have a president that thinks this in the 21st century.
Although there are justifiable criticisms, attempts to paint Biden with the same brush as Trump are both largely inaccurate and almost certainly dangerous to the minority communities who would suffer the most under 4 more MAGA years.
maybe Joe should do some outreach and take on the plan. I don't think any primary so far has had M4A under 50%?
Wait what, where is this data ?
We lost mostly because of a awful Brexit plan, Corbyn being unpopular and changing class dynamics. Maybe this is a radical idea but calling liberals voting for a liberal party(full of ex tories) a bunch of yellow tory cnuts on twitter or god forbid on a football forum doesn't actually have any effect on politics. The Bernie Bro's and snake emojis aren't the reason the campaign failed. We don't live in a television show.
stopping basic healthcare to own the left.
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Well he was threadbanned at the right time at least. Imagine him here during ST results
What? The deportations or the impact of a VP?
Another 1000 pages in the Trump thread confirmed.
Would have been a perma ban instead if that was the case.Well he was threadbanned at the right time at least. Imagine him here during ST results
not voting for Biden. Not sorry.
Look at the effect you are having on the average voter
honestly redplane I suggest you get out of you're bubble/biden cult and stopping helping Trump. This lack of civility is why liberals lose!
Holy shit! Also I bet if you showed that picture to Biden, he would be certain it was real event that he took part in.wont someone do something about the toxicity from the bernie bros
But yeah photoshopping Harris onto a pro segregationist cop = nothing to see here and apparently has no impact on politics
Tattoo's in a style similar to that of jews during the holocaust = just something campaign staff do seemingly and again apparently has no impact on politics
But sake emojis and calling people tories = disgusting threats, mass alienation and of course results in election defeat.
These people constantly break their own stupid fecking rules. If they really believed that lack of civility determines the outcomes of the elections, they wouldn't be voting for a senile old man who seems one step away from fist fighting voters. But reality they don't believe in this argument, all this outrage over people being mean online is just them desperately trying to find a way to not vote for the left candidate. Their the type of arse hole who will use any excuse not to give a tip.
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The precise date is set by statute though. I googled around thinking it was actually in the Constitution, but the Presidential Election Date Act or something from 1845 established the election as the first Tuesday after November 1st.
Out of pure lack of awareness of their own irony, neoliberals have more in common with Trump than the Bernie Bros do. How trumpy.
Over 30 years in the making and if the dems start now in 20 years they could have a slightly senile Mark Cuban berating Speaker Tom Cotton for not supporting UBI. It definitely worked a charm for the repubs.
I think this country will take a hard turn to the left once an AOC coalition starts aiming for the top job.
@Sweet Square if you think Eboue is your average voter I ve got news for you.
It's very simple - do I want progressives to gain more of a foothold sure. But the reality is that the actual average voter doesn't appear to nor want to from one extreme to another. And that seems perfectly logical when most voters didn't even find out about how crazy Trump was until well.. Right about now.
It's very simple - do I want progressives to gain more of a foothold sure. But the reality is that the actual average voter doesn't appear to nor want to from one extreme to another. And that seems perfectly logical when most voters didn't even find out about how crazy Trump was until well.. Right about now.
If you think that was his point I’ve got news for you
Obama and other top Democrats had a big part to play. It’s not just Republicans.
1000 Democratic seats lost. Many Obama voters went to Trump. This context matters.
Do share.
It makes it look as if he a referencing Eboue still not voting for Biden right after my post of the pic.
But if it's about the second part - I don't see how it's a lack of civility to point out the irony of a lot of Bernie voters not actually coming out to vote for him in several states. And this is at a time when it should be *easiest* to have them come out too. Apparently more of the older generation felt compelled to vote to bump Biden - even in parts that did not vote for Hillary but did for Biden this time around. Other reasons aside - if the Dems do get the WH - one of the first thing to do would be to make election day a holiday and also make it a lot easier for folks to absentee vote in areas where voter suppression is happening. As the young voters who clearly side with Bernie this time get older - the last thing I assume the progressives want is to have them turn into moderates. If they don't establish a voter pattern conviction now - it will be harder to energize it again.
There’s a whole third part too.
I didn't post that other pic and I certainly don't agree with that. I do think equating people voting for Biden as being in favor of being pro violence etc has little grounds in reality imho. Again - and I'll keep repeating it - most voters do not pay much attention to anything. If people bitch about politics it's far more likely to be about state or local politics - if only for the fact they re probably paying attention to it more, that it affects their lives more directly and that they have a more direct say in it.
If at this point in the cycle you have to try and educate literally millions of people of the dangers of Biden you re in an uphill battle even if Biden didn't perform as he did so far.
I think he’s fed up with this narrative about “Bernie Bros” and exposing other parts of the liberal base being hypocrites with their own actions. But I just noticed it was quoting a different poster. However, you’ve been here long enough to know that no thinks Eboue is a normal type of anything.
Gotcha. And yes that I have.
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